Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Its because of the Conservatives reputation, its well earned The Conservatives have a reputation of voter fraud? Please cite a past election where they did improper robocalling. Edited February 29, 2012 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) The Conservatives have a reputation of voter fraud? Please cite a past election where they did improper robocalling. IDK about voter fraud..but improper robocalling (Irwin Cotler) In and out scheme..Tony Clements slush fund Muzzling scientists .. Bev Oda..Bernier, Mackays lying and cover ups and getting the military to dig up "dirt" on another mp, the criminal harper chose for senates, harpers aide that had a history of being convicted of FRAUD his crusade against marijuana ask the liberals if reputations stick..LOL The CPC have a dirty reputation now and they will be gone in 3 years because these things add up over the years Edited February 29, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 IDK about voter fraud..but improper robocalling (Irwin Cotler) In and out scheme.. Muzzling scientists .. Bev Oda..Bernier, Mackays lying and cover ups and getting the military to dig up "dirt" on another mp, the criminal harper chose for senates, harpers aide that had a history of being convicted of FRAUD his crusade against marijuana ask the liberals if reputations stick..LOL The CPC have a dirty reputation now and they will be gone in 3 years because these things add up over the years None of those things have ever stuck to the government and only get rabid partisans like you worked up. And none of those make people that would otherwise support the government to turn against them assuming no more information regarding this issue is unearthed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 The Conservatives aren't even trying anymore, in QP their talking point is almost the same as the In & Out scheme talking point of "we used legitimate funds to hire legitimate companies" shameful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 None of those things have ever stuck to the government and only get rabid partisans like you worked up. And none of those make people that would otherwise support the government to turn against them assuming no more information regarding this issue is unearthed. It's the little things that add up over time and turf a government..not the big things ..you think Sponsorship scandal is what led people voting CPC? ha, Chretien was a dirty dirty man before that scandal came to light in the public what happened was over time people got tired of the liberals arrogance and tiny scandals sponsorship scandal was just the last kick in the bucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 The Conservatives aren't even trying anymore, in QP their talking point is almost the same as the In & Out scheme talking point of "we used legitimate funds to hire legitimate companies" shameful Well for people that actually have better things to do than watch Question Period. What are the question being asked? I'd imagine they are asking the same thing over and over again as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Well for people that actually have better things to do than watch Question Period. What are the question being asked? I'd imagine they are asking the same thing over and over again as well. why don't you watch it, seems like you're not busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 To people like olpfan1, the nature of the accusation is more serious than any evidence of a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Which goes perfectly with his list of so-called things that have added up. Again, more accusation than anything real. Accusations from political opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) People I know who were never interested in politics or even voted in elections are now furious with The CPCI have a feeling they aren't the only ones ..way to piss off the apathetic Canadian citizens It's quite a stretch from a couple of your friends and some people you've imagined to the entire public. How did you bridge that gap? (On a supposition of my own, I'd wager you have quite a few friends who never vote and yet are perpetually furious at the Conservative Party...) [ed.: +] Edited February 29, 2012 by g_bambino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Which goes perfectly with his list of so-called things that have added up. Again, more accusation than anything real. Accusations from political opponents. my list isn't fill of accusations.. rofl but okay, w/e, shill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 In the matter of public opinion it isn't going to matter whether the CPC did this or not The public already has made their mind up and this is the last straw I mean, it isn't such a stretch to believe they could be involved in this is it? Harper and his people wrote a manual on how to stall committee meetings They orchestrated the In & Out money sceheme to overspend during elections and were guilty but wouldn't admit so until 4 years later and even then they didn't believe they did anything wrong.. They purposely and self admittedly called Irwin Cotlers riding and told his constituents he was retiring and then they put in an unlected person in his place and they didn't even apologize for it they were smiling and patting themselves on the back I could go on you know but it seems to me like the CPC are now paying for their sins whether or not they are guilty they are deserving of whatever they are going to get from this Lets go on, they tried to bribe Cadman for his vote, Cadman said it, his daughter said and his wife said it. Then his wife denied it and now she one of the Tory backbenchers! Election 2008, they were found guilty, Doug Finley, campaign manager, does a plead and get fined 50,000.00 no jail time. At that time, the Tories kept saying the same thing they are saying now in House, its a smear against the Tories, the Liberal lost the election so now they are smearing us. Right, all this from Del Maestro, today, who interfered in the Ontario elections, and a former care salesman, who never lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (On a supposition of my own, I'd wager you have quite a few friends who never vote and yet are perpetually furious at the Conservative Party...) [ed.: +] How dare you! You need evidence to support such a thing. Wait in olpfan's world you don't need evidence to support anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 my list isn't fill of accusations.. rofl but okay, w/e, shill Yes they are, all gutter politics and accusations. CPC style. Welcome aboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Lets go on, they tried to bribe Cadman for his vote, Cadman said it, his daughter said and his wife said it. Then his wife denied it and now she one of the Tory backbenchers! Election 2008, they were found guilty, Doug Finley, campaign manager, does a plead and get fined 50,000.00 no jail time. At that time, the Tories kept saying the same thing they are saying now in House, its a smear against the Tories, the Liberal lost the election so now they are smearing us. Right, all this from Del Maestro, today, who interfered in the Ontario elections, and a former care salesman, who never lie. yeah, I forgot about the Cadman affair .. but the people on here will tell you those were unfounded allegations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 You know this is sad for the former PC party members and their supporters. IF and only IF, this does come true, I bet the Reform/Allliance members are behind this. Even Mulroney wouldn't have to stupid or arrogrant to try this and get away with it. If you just look at the history of this party and all the schemes and scams that have gone on and only in six years, they don't deserve to be the government and if found guilty, this could clean them out again. This is why its so important to find out who did do it and who didn't do it because all parties are being judge in the court of public opinion, which are the voters. So no matter who you voted for, one would hope that you would want a HONEST election with no DOUBTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 yeah, I forgot about the Cadman affair .. but the people on here will tell you those were unfounded allegations How can they be unfounded when Cadman said himself and his wife was standing beside him when she agreed with him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Maybe MacKay should do his own investigation to find out for himself and IF he finds out it was done and by reformers, which be the PM, then he should come forward to save the Conservatives and bring back the PC again and kick the reformers to the curb. I know, this would never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 How can they be unfounded when Cadman said himself and his wife was standing beside him when she agreed with him?? Once again your sense of history and mine are totally different, Topaz. And Chuck happened to be one of my personal heroes back then. He made his living fixing guitar amplifiers, the same as I do. So, could you please provide some proof for what you said? Google up some reports or references? All you have done is repeated the Opposition's side of the story at the time of the affair as if it was gospel or proven. Please back up what you claim! Just this once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) This is Great News http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/harper-dismisses-robo-call-scandal-as-smear-campaign-by-sore-losers/article2354253/comments/ Edited February 29, 2012 by madmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 This is Great News http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/harper-dismisses-robo-call-scandal-as-smear-campaign-by-sore-losers/article2354253/comments/ and factually wrong. the tories are linked to the guelph robocalls hes going to regret saying that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 and factually wrong. the tories are linked to the guelph robocalls You're very much reading into things here, and jumping the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 You're very much reading into things here, and jumping the gun. Can we agree that they are linked to the company which did the Robo calling and dealt with them off the books reporting none of it to elections Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Who paid for it? I haven’t a clue……..Perhaps a constituency member with their Visa……Maybe they even got Air Miles Question (Perhaps it’s been asked already), if this were a Tory plot, why would they have the call center identify themselves as Conservatives? You could make a case for the ridings that they just barely won, but in other heavily targeted ridings that they squeaked by, there’s no reports of Robocalls/interference.... Also, as pointed out in The Star article I just linked, why would the CPC target namely safe CPC ridings and riding they had no chance of winning? That doesn’t make sense! We have the culprit... It's Pierre Poutine and he lives on Seperatist Street in Joliet,Quebec!! Hurry up and arrest this guy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Can we agree that they are linked to the company which did the Robo calling and dealt with them off the books reporting none of it to elections Canada? Not at this point, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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