Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 The minute I saw them clowns on sun news claim Asbestos was safe & ethical I knew they don't care about facts They get scripts by the CPC Say what you want about CBC but they were never kowtowing to the liberal government Evidence of this? Have you ever seen Ezra Levant comment on Heritage Minister James Moore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 what adam carol reported was the truth.. unless you HATE FREE SPEECH By your logic, so does Bob Rae. Otherwise, why did he offer an apology to Toews over Carroll's behaviour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) By your logic, so does Bob Rae. Otherwise, why did he offer an apology to Toews over Carroll's behaviour? Yeah what's the deal with that? He should be re-hired! BTW didn't vikileaks30 about being in Ottawa. Why would he lie about his location if he didn't want people to know who he was? Afterall what he was doing was perfectly fine right? Edited February 29, 2012 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 oh and sun media rarely reports the facts Do you think sun media should be shut down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 By your logic, so does Bob Rae. Otherwise, why did he offer an apology to Toews over Carroll's behaviour? Bob Rae wasnt sorry.. he was just trying to look better than harper and to squash the story clearly calling caroll before committee is meant to distract us from robocall the cpc even asked if they could call anonymous before committee rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Do you think sun media should be shut down? no, I'm not an oppresor of free speech like you conservatives are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Bob Rae wasnt sorry.. http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/apologizes+Toews+Twitter+messages/6220432/story.html So he lied then? How dare you accuse the Leader of the Opposition of lying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Evidence of this? Have you ever seen Ezra Levant comment on Heritage Minister James Moore? Ezra hates moore cause of his support for the cbc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/apologizes+Toews+Twitter+messages/6220432/story.html So he lied then? How dare you accuse the Leader of the Opposition of lying! bob rae is a liar... he has always been a liar theres no way he didnt secretly enjoy vikileaks30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ezra hates moore cause of his support for the cbc But he's part of the CPC. If the CPC controlled Sun News why would they allow this? BTW David Akin on Sun News is interviewing Thomas Mulclair right now. Why would the CPC allow this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 But he's part of the CPC. If the CPC controlled Sun News why would they allow this? BTW David Akin on Sun News is interviewing Thomas Mulclair right now. Why would the CPC allow this? sun news doesnt have to like everyone in a party to support the government plus it makes it look a little less biased when he rants on Moore why couldnt they interview other politicians? fox news interviews democrats.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 sun news doesnt have to like everyone in a party to support the government plus it makes it look a little less biased when he rants on Moore why couldnt they interview other politicians? fox news interviews democrats.. Because you say they get their marching orders from the CPC. Now you say they aren't completely biased because they criticize the government and interview other politicians. Get your story straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Because you say they get their marching orders from the CPC. Now you say they aren't completely biased because they criticize the government and interview other politicians. Get your story straight. Are you telling me its just a coincidence the talking points we hear from sun news are the same talking points coming from the PMO? I don't know you but I hope you are smarter than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Are you telling me its just a coincidence the talking points we hear from sun news are the same talking points coming from the PMO? I don't know you but I hope you are smarter than that Talking points like? BTW Sun News/Quebecor is a complex media organization. The people they employ don't follow one singular view. You may think some of the pundits take their marching orders from the Conservatives or even the Republicans in the US. But that doesn't mean they report the news accurately and it doesn't mean they "rarely" report facts as you claimed earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 bob rae is a liar... he has always been a liar Of course, you have no proof of this do you. The thought popped into your head and you post it without thinking it through. I have never known Bob Rae to be a liar. He may feign outrage at times, but all politicians do that. theres no way he didnt secretly enjoy vikileaks30 Another example of your deep insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Okay, I'm not going to go digging for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olpfan1 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Of course, you have no proof of this do you. The thought popped into your head and you post it without thinking it through. I have never known Bob Rae to be a liar. He may feign outrage at times, but all politicians do that. Another example of your deep insight. Show me a politician and I'll show you a liar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofGPolitico Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Today, its seems Sona is now saying he didn't do any wrong, so why did he resign? Also, it was pointed out today that Elections Canada asked the government for more power to look into all parties and they say....no. Even the Liberals allowed an inquiry to to be Adscam, which has now become nothing compared to this. The two are mutually exclusive, yes, but Adscam is not all of the sudden "nothing". The Robocall scandal has yet to be fully unearthed. It could turn out to be huge, or not. There is too much jumping of the gun in both the media, the opposition benches and in this forum. I will also say within the government too, especially Peter MacKay suggesting the individual who resigned (i.e. Sona) has put this issue to rest. Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the authorities do their job. Elections Canada if they feel they cannot handle this themselves are free to call into the RCMP. Edited March 1, 2012 by UofGPolitico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 The Robocall scandal has yet to be fully unearthed. It could turn out to be huge, or not. There is too much jumping of the gun in both the media, the opposition benches and in this forum. I will also say within the government too, especially Peter MacKay suggesting the individual who resigned (i.e. Sona) has put this issue to rest. Fully agree UofG. Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the authorities do their job. Unfortunately, that will not happen. There are political points to be scored and the anti-Harper/Conservative mob is in full frenzy mode. Elections Canada if they feel they cannot handle this themselves are free to call into the RCMP. Ex-Elections Canada boss Kingsley has said that additional resources are at their disposal when they are overwhelmed by an investigation. And yes, the RCMP resources are at their disposal as required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofGPolitico Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Unfortunately, that will not happen. There are political points to be scored and the anti-Harper/Conservative mob is in full frenzy mode. Ex-Elections Canada boss Kingsley has said that additional resources are at their disposal when they are overwhelmed by an investigation. And yes, the RCMP resources are at their disposal as required. Haha, yes I know, I've been following politics long enough that the opposition will rarely come up for air, especially this one. Yes, I saw the Kingsley interview. The opposition claims Harper is changing the channel, well they are too with this constant rhetoric questioning Elections Canada in their ability to conduct this investigation. Edited March 1, 2012 by UofGPolitico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 The opposition claims Harper is changing the channel, well they are too with this constant rhetoric questioning Elections Canada in their ability to conduct this investigation. Nothing short of a public inquiry will satisfy the opps at this point. Such an inquiry would drag out the issue a lot longer than a combined Elections Canada/RCMP probe. I think they underestimate the public on that score. The public has a generally favourable view of public servants as compared to their negative opinion about politicians. And they wouldn't look kindly on spending millions for an inquiry while Elections Canada and the RCMP are already mandated to investigate and render sanctions through existing legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofGPolitico Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Nothing short of a public inquiry will satisfy the opps at this point. Such an inquiry would drag out the issue a lot longer than a combined Elections Canada/RCMP probe. I think they underestimate the public on that score. The public has a generally favourable view of public servants as compared to their negative opinion about politicians. And they wouldn't look kindly on spending millions for an inquiry while Elections Canada and the RCMP are already mandated to investigate and render sanctions through existing legislation. Exactly, it may come to an inquiry at some point, but as it stand right now there is no real legitimate need for it. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Exactly, it may come to an inquiry at some point, but as it stand right now there is no real legitimate need for it. Oh well. So why are the Tories having a committee meeting with Mr Carroll, who has admitted his guilty and spending money to questioning him. I bet the first question will be, Mr Carroll, are you the only person in this situation or did Bob Rae and the Liberals help you. So if we spend money on this committee then we can spend money on finding out WHO to charged with voting fraud,isn't this what the investigation is all about? IF the Tories did nothing wrong, open up the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 It also been said that some people in Montreal, I think, seniors got midnight calls, and I wondered why and then I realized that perhaps the calls came from out West, three hours behind the East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 At the pace Elections Canada conducts investigations, Monsieur Poutine has enough time to morph into the Pillsbury Dough Boy. Haha. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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