-TSS- Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 japan has had so many PM's in the recent years that I've had trouble keeping up. After all, they're still the world's third largest economy, therefore an important country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 japan has had so many PM's in the recent years that I've had trouble keeping up. After all, they're still the world's third largest economy, therefore an important country. ya well they have that integrity(loss of "face") thing going on all the time...any scandal, humiliation, error in judgement, caught in a lie, etc and they resign...integrity obviously plays no part in our politics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 The LDP continued to rotate though leaders during their time out of office, they are now lead by one of their various former PMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Correction: the LDP had only one long-term leader in their term out of office, but switched back to Abe (a former MP) [pronounced AB-ay] in September of this year. Also, more on South Korea. Parliamentary elections were held in the spring. Results were as follows: Red and Blue are the Conservative parties, while Yellow is the Liberal party. Purple is the Progressives. The Conservatives won 157 seats in this election, to the Liberals 127, Progressives 13, and Independents 3. South Korea also rotates though Prime Ministers faster than Japan. From 2008 to the present, the Conservatives have been in power, and 4 PMs have served. Between 1998 and 2008, the Liberals were in power, and 18 PMs served. From 1988 to 1998, with the Conservatives in power, 16 Prime Ministers served. 1988 marks the founding of the Sixth Republic 12 Conservative PMs served between 1982 and 1988 1982 marks the founding of the Fifth Republic From 1980 to 1982, 2 Conservative PMs served. From late 1979 to early 1980, South Korea was a Military Dictatorship due to a Coup D'Etat. Prior to this the Military played roles in picking the leader(s) of the country, and there were other times where democracy was not so democratic. The last PM to serve more than 3 years was the one overthrown. The longest serving PM was in office from May 10th 1964 to December 20th 1970, 6 and a half years. I'm also updating my Japan predictions to better match the level of media coverage given to each party and it's positive or negative tone. LDP - 245 DPJ - 88 JRP - 80 JFP - 32 NKP - 16 YP - 12 JCP - 7 SDP - 0 LDP and NKP would have a majority and would indeed govern together as they have done in the past. In Romania, the government (if the polls are right) should win about 200 of the 315 seats, or many more (up to 300) - I really don't fully understand the electoral system there. They are at 60%-65% in the polls though, and thus, will sweep. Edited December 6, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Those electoral maps can be very misleading. One party may control a tiny part of a country but may still hold the majority of votes as the density of population varies so much. However, South-Korea is extremely densely populated, all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 SK also has PR that was not mapped. And all maps have this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 LDP - 245 DPJ - 88 JRP - 80 JFP - 32 NKP - 16 YP - 12 JCP - 7 SDP - 0 Media projections from within Japan have come out since I made this post. They project the same numbers I do. (DPJ between 90-60, LDP around 230, majority with NKP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) More news from Japan since my last post only a few minutes ago. An earthquake - weaker than, but in the same spot as the Fukishima quake. On a day when the official Nuclear agency says it wants to restart the plants. Bad timing for pro-nuclear forces. I've also modified my projection to better match the media average projection. LDP - 260 DPJ - 87 JRP - 70 FJP - 25 NKP - 16 YP - 12 JCP - 7 SDP - 3 A bit more on the parties DPJ Democratic Party of Japan Colours: Orange, Red Position: Centre-Left Leader: Noda (Current PM) Canadian: Liberals (party analogy in Canada) Nuke? Anti GST? 10% (sales-taxes are a big issue this election) TPP? Pro (Free-trade thingy in the pacific) Main platform points: Social Security, Economy, Energy, Foreign Relations, National Security, and Political Reform (All mushy issues) LDP Liberal Democratic Party Colours: Green, Blue Position: Centre-right Leader: Abe (Former PM) Canadian: Conservatives / old PC Nuke? mum GST? 5% (current levels) TPP? Anti Main platform points: Foreign affairs (And other issues that attract less attention) JFP Japan Future Party Colours: Green Position: Centrist to Moderate Left, pro-Green Leader: Kada (She is a current Governor, not running for a federal seat) Canadian: Green Party of Canada (Harris-May era) Nuke? Anti GST? 5% TPP? Anti Main platform points: Not being either of the big 2 parties. JRP Japan Restoration Party Colours: Green Position: Right-wing Leader: Ishihara (Former Gov) Canadian: Reform Party Nuke? Pro GST? 11% TPP? Conditionally Main platform points: Nationalism and Populism YP Your Party Colours: Red, Blue Position: Centre-Right Leader: Watanabe Canadian: Uh... Not really close to anything we have. Nuke? Anti GST? 5% TPP? Pro Main platform points: Populist Reforms. NKP New Kōmeitō Party Colours: Red Position: Socially Conservative Leader: Canadian: CHP Nuke? Anti GST? TPP? Main platform points: Social Order, Economic Growth Edited December 7, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Those electoral maps can be very misleading. One party may control a tiny part of a country but may still hold the majority of votes as the density of population varies so much. However, South-Korea is extremely densely populated, all of it. Those are electoral ridings though. By that map you can easily see the 'red' party (Saenuri) has the most votes in the most number of ridings. I like the idea that the ruling party regularly changes who the PM is in South Korea. In recent times at least, our leaders tend to hang on way too long in good times, usually relinquishing power only if it looks like their popularity was waning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Map of India's last election Current polling based projections for other countries: Germany 257 - Conservatives 192 - Socialists 100 - Greens 49 - Ex Communists 0 - Liberals 0 - Pirates Traditional Socialist-Green coalition would not have enough seats for a majority. United Kingdom 354 - Labour 254 - Conservative 42 - All Others: 12 - SNP (Scottish Separatist) 10 - DUP (Northern Ireland / NI Unionist) 6 - Sinn Fien (NI Separatist) 6 - Liberal Democrat 3 - Plaid Cymru (Welsh Separatist) 2 - SDLP (NI Labour) 1 - RESPECT (Socialist) 1 - Green 1 - Speaker 0 - UKIP This is an off hand projection I've made based on projections from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) oops accidentally blanked. Edited December 13, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Fantastic information. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) The Incumbent in Ghana has increased his lead slightly as votes continue to be counted. Additional polls from South Korea show the Conservative candidate for President has retained her lead. Japan's LDP seems to be gaining support due to their new found conservative policies. They want to turn Japan's military into a real military, stop allowing China and Korea a veto over history textbooks, and to take back an apology the country made in 1993 under it's first non-LDP government over the use of "comfort women" (I guess they are not sorry??) edit And no, you wont find any of that on wikipedia. I also follow media reports. Edited December 9, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Mahama appears to have won slightly over 50% of the votes in a come-from-behind-during-counting victory. Mahama's Socialist party is also leading in the counting of Parliamentary seats. 84 - NDC - Socialist 79 - NPP - Conservative 2 - Others 110 - Undeclared Romania maps. House: Senate: Red is the governing coalition, Green is the Hungarian party, and Blue is the Conservatives while Purple are the Populists. If current trends continue the end result should be: 270 - Government 25 - Conservatives 15 - Hungarians 5 - Populists With a similar share of seats in the Senate. Note that the government itself is a coalition of 3 parties. The Social Democrats, the Progressives, and the Conservatives. The latter are socially conservative; it's economic policies are more in line with the left. No change in South Korea. In Japan the polls continue the trends as they already exist. Projection adjusted to as follows: 260 - LDP - Conservative 80 - DPJ - Liberal 77 - JRP - Reform 63 - Others: 25 - FJP - Moderate and Progressive 16 - NKP - Religious (Buddhist) 12 - YP - Populist...ish 7 - JCP - Communists 3 - SDP - Social Democrats Edited December 10, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Indeed, Ghana has always been considered as some kind of a pioneer in democracy in Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Indeed, Ghana has always been considered as some kind of a pioneer in democracy in Africa. Which is the only reason I bother to follow it really. Current counts have the Parliamentary election tied 86-86 with 2 Others. In Romania (the maps should have auto-updated) House 266 - Socialists 23 - Conservatives 14 - Hungarians 4 - Populists 8 - Undeclared Senate 118 - Socialists 7 - Hungarians 6 - Conservatives 0 - Populists 6 - Undeclared (Note that these numbers come from simply counting the non-red areas on the map and subtracting the total number of seats.) Japan: It should be noted that each of the major parties has "Factions". These as, in short, as follows: LDP Decades of unbroken governance allowed for strong inner-party factions to grow. LIBERAL - This faction has split in two recently over Keynesian policies. It is more moderate. It ruled from the 60's to the 90's. DEMOCRATIC - This faction currently holds power, and is the more Conservative and conservative of the two. DPJ Merger after Merger after Merger to create this party left inner-party cleaves. SOCIALIST - These are those who left the old Socialist Party of Japan LIBERAL - Think of our Liberals. MODERATES - Centrists and the such. EX LDP - This group is a right-wing (within the party anyway) CONSERVATIVE - The current Prime Minister leads this faction. What is important to know is that just about every DPJ member in a "safe seat" this election is either EX LDP or CONSERVATIVE With the rise of the conservatives in the LDP, the new Reform-like JRP, and a right-wing rump expected to be left of the DPJ, the end result of this election is known. A huge victory for conservative forces. Edited December 11, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) A little history of elections in Japan. 1993 Just like here, and in a places like Italy, the elections in and around 1993 saw the party system radically change. 243 - Opposition (8 party coalition) 223 - LDP 15 - Communist 30 - Independent 1996 During the previous term, the Socialists split in half, and half switched sides and allied with the LDP A few of the opposition parties allied in the NFP. 239 - LDP 156 - NFP 105 - Others 2000 The DPJ as we know it came to be with a merger with the NFP. 233 - LDP 127 - DPJ 120 - Others 2003 The DPJ won the largest share by a single united opposition party since the 50s. 237 - LDP 177 - DPJ 66 - Others 2005 Snap election called over the issue of private post. The government won. 296 - LDP 113 - DPJ 71 - Others 2009 First loss by the LDP to a unified opposition party since the war. 308 - DPJ 119 - LDP 53 - Others What may be important to know is what happened prior to the big 1993 mess. 1990 The last in the line of similar elections. The Japan Socialist Party continued it's seeminly never-ending stint in the opposition. 275 - LDP 136 - JSP 101 - Others 1986 A strong challenge by the centre-left (86 seats) 300 - LDP 85 - JSP 127 - Others 1983 A slightly less strong challenge by the centre-left (107 seats) 250 - LDP 112 - JSP 149 - Others 1980 Caused by a rebels wthin the government. Government increased it's majority. Centre-left took 80 seats. 284 - LDP 107 - JSP 120 - Others 1979 LDP fails to capture a majority. Centre-left took 98 seats. 248 - LDP 107 - JSP 156 - Others 1976 LDP hit by scandal. It was during this parliament various centre-left forces became a bit more popular, but the fact the centre-left vote was split among many different parties did not help whatsoever. 260 - LDP 124 - JSP 127 - Others 1972 The last "good" election by the Communists (40 seats) 284 - LDP 118 - JSP 89 - Others 1969 The old Komeito party did well (47 seats) 300 - LDP 90 - JSP 96 - Others 1967 Good ole two-party election. 280 - LDP 141 - JSP 75 - Others 1963 Only 4 parties won seats, the main 2, the Communists, and the centre-left DSP. 294 - LDP 144 - JSP 29 - Others 1960 Birth of the DSP, centrist rebels from the JSP. The DSP would go on to form the core of the DPJ many decades later. 300 - LDP 144 - JSP 23 - Others 1958 Ah, simpler times. 298 - Liberal-Democrats 167 - Socialists 1 - Communist 1 - Independent 1955 Things were a bit complicated back then. 185 - Democrats 114 - Liberals (guess what happened with these two parties) 89 - Left-wing Socialists 67 - Right-wing Socialists 2 - Communists 10 - Others And it goes on from there. Edited December 11, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 In some Central-European countries the national minorities have a quota reserved for them in parliaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Ghana Final results for the Presidential votes are as follows. John Mahama - Social Democrat - 5,574,761 Nana Akufo-Addo - Conservative - 5,248,898 All the other candidates combined - 171,603 Total number of invalid ballots cast - 251,720 The losing candidate is debating a court challenge but has ruled out violence. In Parliament: 120 - Socialists 94 - Conservatives 3 - Others 58 - Undeclared Romania It seems the election system has elements of proportionality that I was not aware of. House 273 - Socialists (158 Socialists, 102 Left-Liberals, 13 Social-Conservatives) 56 - Conservatives (52 Right-Liberals, 3 Democrats, 1 Pesants) 47 - Populists 18 - Hungarians 18 - Various Ethnic Minorities Senate 122 - Socialists (63 Socialists, 51 Left-Liberals, 8 Social-Conservatives) 24 - Conservatives (22 Right-Liberals, 1 Democrat, 1 Peasant) 21 - Populists 9 - Hungarians Japan Updated projection to better match current trends in polling: 260 - LDP - Conservative 94 - DPJ - Liberal 70 - JRP - Reform 56 - Others: 19 - NKP - Religious (Buddhist) 15 - FJP - Moderate and Progressive 12 - YP - Populist...ish 7 - JCP - Communists 3 - SDP - Social Democrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 South Korea More polls and more of the same. Park looks set to win. I'll thus remove this from my "follow close" and focus on Japan and elections coming up next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Upcoming elections: 15th - http://en.wikipedia....eferendum,_2012 Egypt Referendum 16th http://en.wikipedia...._election,_2012 JAPAN 16th - http://en.wikipedia....elections,_2012 Venezula 17th - http://en.wikipedia...._election,_2012 Bermuda 19th - http://en.wikipedia...._election,_2012 South Korea* 12th - http://en.wikipedia...._election,_2013 Czech (President) 20th - http://en.wikipedia....eferendum,_2013 Austria Referendum 20th - http://en.wikipedia...._election,_2013 Lower Saxony (Germany)* 22nd - http://en.wikipedia...._election,_2013 ISRAEL Countries in ALLCAPS will get focus by me, while those with an asterisk* after them will get a "minor focus" (similar to Romania or Ghana) Other big elections this coming year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_German_federal_election GERMANY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Australian_federal_election AUSTRALIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_parliamentary_election,_2013 Iceland* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_general_election,_2013 Lebanon* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_Constituent_Assembly_election,_2013 Nepal* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_general_election,_2013 Pakistan* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_general_election,_2013 Palestine* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_constitutional_referendum,_2013 Zimbabwe Referendum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_presidential_election,_2013 Zimbabwe Presidential Edited December 13, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 It was news to me that Austria still has a conscription. I wonder why. It is surrounded by friendly NATO-countries. Well, perhaps that the reason why they are proposing to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) red=conscription Frankly, I support it. Teach people some discipline. Edited December 14, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I can see Greece still has conscription. Given the economic woes of that country, that institution is the first thing they should throw away. Trust me, the Turks aren't gonna invade you even if you close down your army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Egypt starts voting on it's constitution today. There are three basic groups of people who will decide the results: Those who are Anti-Morsi These folks generally are voting against the deal. Pro-Morsi Conservatives These folks love the constitution and are voting for it. Folks who want stability These people, many of whom are Liberal, are going to be voting for the deal as well. Japan (241 needed for majority) Updated projection to better match current trends in polling: 255 - LDP - Conservative 99 - DPJ - Liberal 64 - JRP - Reform 62 - Others: 21 - NKP - Religious (Buddhist) 15 - FJP - Moderate and Progressive 14 - YP - Populist...ish 8 - JCP - Communists 4 - SDP - Social Democrats Smaller parties gain 1 or 2 each due to high undecided rates (if they are undecided about the big guys, they may go small) JRP loses more seats due to the fact that they seem to be performing better among PR voters than among district voters, while the DPJ gains seats for the opposite reason. EDIT Adjusted again due to more information. LDP seems to be sweeping in the non-PR vote, and the little guys are doing even better than I have above. 280 - LDP - Conservative 74 - DPJ - Liberal 61 - JRP - Reform 65 - Others: 23 - NKP - Religious (Buddhist) 15 - FJP - Moderate and Progressive 15 - YP - Populist...ish 8 - JCP - Communists 4 - SDP - Social Democrats There are those who think LDP+NKP (usual allies) will get a super-majority of 330 seats. This would enable them to over-ride any veto from the upper house. I however do not see it. When the undecideds are this big of a fraction, they usually do not break for any one party (though Quebec and Alberta have proven that this can indeed be the case from time to time) The better the LDP sweeps the non-PR ridings, the worse DPJ will do, as that is where they need to make their gains. Edited December 15, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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