Boges Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Posted December 14, 2015 I don't understand why ON is skipping licensed private liquor stores and going straight into food markets... or are they doing both? What am I missing? And only 6 packs? Not individual bombers? Not 12 or 24 packs? This won't help the craft beer movement much, if at all. What is wrong with you people??? http://beaus.ca/ I'll take what I can get. Up until now, only the Beer Store could sell anything above a 6-pack. Now the Lickbo can sell 12-packs but Beer Stores still can only sell a 2-4. It's a start. LCBO's are good liquor stores, you're never going to get liquor sold in grocery stores. The real answer is allowing beer and wine to be sold in convenience stores. Quote
overthere Posted December 15, 2015 Report Posted December 15, 2015 Kathleen Wynne is buying morning beer? Is anybody in ON going to organize an intervention? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Guest Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 We have finally progressed to where we can buy beer and popcorn in the same store. About 8 years ago, Scott Reid said "Don't give people 25 bucks a week to blow on beer and popcorn," during a panel discussion on CBC News. "Give them child-care spaces that work. Stephen Harper's plan has nothing to do with child care." Instead we got that $25 and now we can purchase both during one stop. That's progress. People don't have all day to piss away their vote buying $25 cheques. Quote
Boges Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Posted December 16, 2015 That's progress. People don't have all day to piss away their vote buying $25 cheques. Huh? This news is progress at a snails pace. It's just a way for the province to charge grocers for the right to sell a limited selection of beer. A suspect most people in developed areas already have an LCBO or Beer Store as close, if not closer, to them at one of the Grocery Stores that will get the licenses. Now having beer at a Walmart might be a true one-stop location. Only large grocery stores can even agree to the laundry list of regulations the province is imposing. If they really wanted convenience they'd allow beer at a Convenience Store. But they have this Social Responsibility lie they have to stick to. Quote
Big Guy Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 Personally, I do not care from where it is sold as long as returns are not allowed in grocery stores. While going to school many, may years ago, I worked part time in a beer store. The rookies were always stuck with the empties job. These empties stink, they have jagged edges, there are strange little creatures that crawl out of beer cases and some people used the bottles instead of urinals. There is no place for empties in a store that sells food. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Guest Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 Huh? This news is progress at a snails pace. It's just a way for the province to charge grocers for the right to sell a limited selection of beer. A suspect most people in developed areas already have an LCBO or Beer Store as close, if not closer, to them at one of the Grocery Stores that will get the licenses. Now having beer at a Walmart might be a true one-stop location. Only large grocery stores can even agree to the laundry list of regulations the province is imposing. If they really wanted convenience they'd allow beer at a Convenience Store. But they have this Social Responsibility lie they have to stick to. Beer and popcorn at the same location is what I was sarcastically referring to as progress. As for the social responsibility lie, how can they claim that as part of their mandate yet, still advertise? Anyway, this a is baby step in the right direction. Quote
ironstone Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 Not tarding, I was simply employing the classic CPC/ right wing argument... Of course, you could just move to the United States. Lots of cheep booze there, for you to drink How about the Quebec model for booze? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Boges Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Posted December 16, 2015 Beer and popcorn at the same location is what I was sarcastically referring to as progress. As for the social responsibility lie, how can they claim that as part of their mandate yet, still advertise? Anyway, this a is baby step in the right direction. Oh yeah they advertise lots. The phrase "Social Responsibility" is all over how they talk about alcohol. Whether it be about minimum pricing or having to close shop at 5 or 6pm on Sunday. Can't sell at a Convenience Store because of social responsibility because. . . well because they're manned by non-unionized brown people really. They have to pander to their Union but it's an easy out to force large grocery chains to pay a fee just for the privilege of selling a limited selection of beer. Each grocer has to have specific checkouts for alcohol. It's actually silly how nanny state this "progress" really is. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 How about the Quebec model for booze? I don't know the ins and outs of Quebec, but when I was there, you could buy beer at the grocery store (poor selection, unless you wanted Molson). There were also government liquor stores and private (for beer and wine at least). Quote
Boges Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Posted December 16, 2015 I don't know the ins and outs of Quebec, but when I was there, you could buy beer at the grocery store (poor selection, unless you wanted Molson). There were also government liquor stores and private (for beer and wine at least). Sounds like a wonderful place. Cept for the French and stuff. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 Sounds like a wonderful place. Cept for the French and stuff. The beer is terrific. Lots of microbrew selection! The girls are gorgeous and friendly! Pubs are nice... what's not to like??? Quote
Boges Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Posted December 16, 2015 The beer is terrific. Lots of microbrew selection! The girls are gorgeous and friendly! Pubs are nice... what's not to like??? The French. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 The French. I've been there several times. Never had issues with "the French". Are you one of those people who don't like something if it's not exactly like home? "Hawaii sucks man... there's no f'n pond hockey, eh"! Quote
Boges Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Posted December 16, 2015 I've been there several times. Never had issues with "the French". Are you one of those people who don't like something if it's not exactly like home? "Hawaii sucks man... there's no f'n pond hockey, eh"! I'm just messing with you. We're just talking about liqour laws. Quebec has awesome liqour laws. Montreal is a lovely city too, but it's really a part of the debate at hand. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 Quebec is extremely protectionist though... it's very difficult (nigh impossible) for a craft brewery in Ontario to sell into the QC market. I know of a brewery in ON, right across the border from QC, that was going to build a whole new brewery in QC to tap that market, even though they had plenty of capacity in their ON brewery. Millions of dollars... Crazy... Shouldn't there be free trade across provincial lines? I don't know if the same problem exists with QC breweries selling into ON. In BC, we get QC, ON and AB micro brews, so I know there isn't the same issue in BC. Quote
Boges Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Posted January 15, 2016 Good job LCBO! http://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/lcbo-contacts-police-after-customer-buys-bottle-of-vodka-that-was-filled-with-water-1.2738586 Quote
The_Squid Posted January 15, 2016 Report Posted January 15, 2016 Good job LCBO! http://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/lcbo-contacts-police-after-customer-buys-bottle-of-vodka-that-was-filled-with-water-1.2738586 It's just as likely that the person who bought it filled it with H2O and then returned it for another 1.75L bottle of vodka. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 15, 2016 Report Posted January 15, 2016 "I took a swig from the bottle and said to my wife, 'Wow that's not vodka,'" said Crumpton. A swig from the bottle! lol Maybe this is a sign from God that he should go easier on the sauce! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-buys-vodka-bottle-filled-with-water-at-lcbo-1.3405313 Quote
Boges Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Posted February 11, 2016 Wine by the end of the year in grocery stores. After 3 years they'll finally be allowed to sell more than just Ontario wines. LOL. http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2016/02/11/ontario-uncorks-its-plan-for-wine-in-supermarkets-cohn.html The goal is to give local VQA wines (Vintners Quality Alliance) a head start over the foreign competition during a three-year phase-in period. Thereafter, all international wines could be sold in those supermarkets. The goal is to give local VQA wines (Vintners Quality Alliance) a head start over the foreign competition during a three-year phase-in period. Thereafter, all international wines could be sold in those supermarkets. In addition to those 35 Ontario-only outlets, another 35 unrestricted licences would be issued in parallel, allowing the winning bidders to sell both foreign and domestic wines from the outset. Ontario cider producers will also benefit from the liberalization. But sales of spirits, with their higher alcohol content, would still be restricted to the LCBO, as is the case with Quebec’s government-owned SAQ alcohol outlets (sales could continue, however, at on-site outlets attached to distilleries).In 2019, another 40 Ontario-only wine licences would be issued, plus an additional 40 unrestricted outlets that could also sell imported wines. The combined total would be 150 new grocery outlets for wine, with all protectionist provisions phased out by 2022 Still haven't found an opportunity to purchase beer in a grocery store. Quote
Boges Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Posted February 18, 2016 http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2016/02/18/ontario-to-allow-sales-of-canadian-and-international-wines-in-300-grocery-stores.html $11 minimum price for wine. Bunch of Crooks!! Quote
cybercoma Posted February 18, 2016 Report Posted February 18, 2016 Funny how that's illegal anywhere else. Quote
The_Squid Posted February 18, 2016 Report Posted February 18, 2016 http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2016/02/18/ontario-to-allow-sales-of-canadian-and-international-wines-in-300-grocery-stores.html $11 minimum price for wine. Bunch of Crooks!! lol I guess if you like the cheap stuff, this is going to be an issue... Personally, I prefer a bit of quality over the pricepoint, unless I am cooking with it or making sangrias... Quote
Boges Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) lol I guess if you like the cheap stuff, this is going to be an issue... Personally, I prefer a bit of quality over the pricepoint, unless I am cooking with it or making sangrias...Snob response. You can get decent enough wines at the LCBO for under $9. The price is mostly tax. They're enforcing a minimum price so they don't undercut the LCBO and to propagate the social responsibility lie. Edited February 18, 2016 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) It's funny, when I contend that a model like this will make legalized cannabis unprofitable because there's already enough people that make it themselves, I'm told people can just as easily make wine and beer themselves as well. I can't imagine that it's of any quality if people are willing to spend $15 or more for a bottle of wine. Tastes are all subjective. At least with weed, quality isn't about the consumption but how it effects you afterwards. Edited February 18, 2016 by Boges Quote
eyeball Posted February 19, 2016 Report Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) So, is there or isn't there a relationship between quality and morality? Is a bottle of Grand Marnier more moral than a box of porch-climber? What about bag of BOB (bottom of the bag) compared to a vial of Honey Oil? Edited February 19, 2016 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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