Michael Hardner Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Sure I can, he's a member of the Federal Liberal Party of Canada. And that makes him a poor candidate for leadership of said party ? Excuse me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 He has pretty much ruled it out though. Yeah, in a way, that’s a good thing, I hope with a backroom apology and a cabinet appointment, he’d rejoin the “dark side”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 This makes sense. Political engagement falls between elections. The strength of the NDP lies entirely with how well they can get people to the polls that don't usually vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Former member of the PCs being a leader of the Liberals? Jean Charest doesn't want any of that? I think they'd stand a better chance with Bob Rae. Bob Rae? A Former provincial NDP leader and Premier? How would Rae shift the LPC towards the center and appeal to moderate (and younger) voters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Bob Rae? A Former provincial NDP leader and Premier? How would Rae shift the LPC towards the center and appeal to moderate (and younger) voters? How would a former member of the PCs appeal to voters that might otherwise vote NDP? Edited November 28, 2011 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Charest was always on the progressive side of the Progressive Conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 How would a former member of the PCs appeal to voters that might otherwise vote NDP? Electability..........He’s young, fiscally conservative, well socially moderate/liberal, articulate and doesn’t have a record of running a critical, vote rich province into the ground etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Electability..........He’s young, fiscally conservative, well socially moderate/liberal, articulate and doesn’t have a record of running a critical, vote rich province into the ground etc If he wins the CPC will be breaking out the Flip Flops for election time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 If he wins the CPC will be breaking out the Flip Flops for election time. I don't follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I don't follow? I know he didn't officially change parties but he was a PCer that went to the Liberals. He'll hear about that in an election campaign. I've only ever heard of Brison being a realistic option in this thread though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I know he didn't officially change parties but he was a PCer that went to the Liberals. He'll hear about that in an election campaign. I've only ever heard of Brison being a realistic option in this thread though. And what of Rae? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 The next Liberal leader must be younger, active on social networking, affluent in english and french, personable not willing to kowtow to the US or Europe or Asia.. not an idealouge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'm a big fan of Scott Brison and think he could be a good Prime Minister, however I think his best hope is being Finance Minister. He's still young enough however that if the Liberals manage to get back in power over the next decade he could eventually be a strong leadership candidate, after a stint as a high profile minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 The next Liberal leader must be younger, active on social networking, affluent in english and french, personable not willing to kowtow to the US or Europe or Asia.. not an idealouge Dominic Le Blanc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Dominic Le Blanc? Where is he to though? I think I'd still prefer Ted Hsu over most of the bunch, though I'd need to learn more about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The more I think about it, Charest is looking better and better. He could rob the NDP of their support in Quebec, while appealing to the old progressive half of the PCs if they're clining to the CPC for lack of a better option. I could easily see Charest as the next PM, sweeping the Maritimes due to old connections, rebuilding Quebec's relationship with the LPC and picking up Western CPC supporters that are more socially liberal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The more I think about it, Charest is looking better and better. He could rob the NDP of their support in Quebec, while appealing to the old progressive half of the PCs if they're clining to the CPC for lack of a better option. I could easily see Charest as the next PM, sweeping the Maritimes due to old connections, rebuilding Quebec's relationship with the LPC and picking up Western CPC supporters that are more socially liberal. To bad he sucks as premier. People think McGuinty has a bad record, what has Charest done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The more I think about it, Charest is looking better and better. He could rob the NDP of their support in Quebec, while appealing to the old progressive half of the PCs if they're clining to the CPC for lack of a better option. I could easily see Charest as the next PM, sweeping the Maritimes due to old connections, rebuilding Quebec's relationship with the LPC and picking up Western CPC supporters that are more socially liberal. Charest is the smarmy turncoat is he not? It is one thing to go from feds to provincials, but quite another to come back with his record of flip-flopping. Even though he was a decent PC. Leblanc would mop the floor with him. Enough of the old boys, let's move along into the newer generation at least. Charest can be a senator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Charest would be a very good PM I think...but the corruption of the people around him pretty much rules that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 the politicians you people are throwing out there for liberal leadership would surely kill the party once and for all you are all obviously out of touch with reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Considering at the moment they have 60,000 less members then the NDP they got a large hole climb out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Considering at the moment they have 60,000 less members then the NDP they got a large hole climb out of. I don't know anyone who is a card carrying member of any political party I think its lame to belong to a political party unless you're a politician Edited November 29, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't know anyone who is a card carrying member of any political party I think its lame to belong to a political party unless you're a politician That is fine but your volunteer base is your membership so when the NDP has 3 times as many members they can do much much more then you. That was the Liberals undoing in the first place they have no structure and it cost them twice as much to run the same organization the Cons and NDP run with more volunteers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 If Libs can gain the voters who haven't voted in the last 5 years they'll win in a landslide that is the key..to get them to vote and to vote for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 If Libs can gain the voters who haven't voted in the last 5 years they'll win in a landslide that is the key..to get them to vote and to vote for you You mean the whole 100,000 more who voted in 2006 then in 2011? Yah maybe or maybe you are making a simple situation out a much more complex situation. Like Liberal memberships in free fall, ridding associations having to be run from Ottawa by paid workers because there is not one engaged volunteer in the ridding. It is going to take them more then 100,000 more people voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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