How do Conservative Christians ignore that their saviour

[Guest Derek L]

That's OK...we all know what happened to Jesus.

Indeed…….I wonder what Jesus would have thought of the US/Canada softwood lumber dispute…….

[blueblood]

Indeed…….I wonder what Jesus would have thought of the US/Canada softwood lumber dispute…….

Probably would have thought it civilized being as in his time stuff like that would have caused great many people to be shishliki.

[GostHacked]

Indeed…….I wonder what Jesus would have thought of the US/Canada softwood lumber dispute…….

Depends on if he was nailed to some pine or maple. Oak is pretty tough as well. I would not recommend poplar or birch.

[Shakeyhands]

Oh sure...and let's not forget Jeseus Christ's ardent support for abortion on demand...paid for by taxpayers!

or executions....

[Shady]

Depends on if he was nailed to some pine or maple. Oak is pretty tough as well. I would not recommend poplar or birch.

I thought Cherry was the hardest.

[GostHacked]

I thought Cherry was the hardest.

His was busted.

[dre]

Depends on if he was nailed to some pine or maple. Oak is pretty tough as well. I would not recommend poplar or birch.

I always try to crucify my sacrificial saviors on edge-grain fir. Its hardy and strong, but not too tough to get a nail into.

[Shady]

I always try to crucify my sacrificial saviors on edge-grain fir. Its hardy and strong, but not too tough to get a nail into.

Nah. You don't crucify saviours, you crucify people that earn more money than you. Evny is a very destructive force.

[dre]

Nah. You don't crucify saviours, you crucify people that earn more money than you. Evny is a very destructive force.

Im totally fine with .

Evny is a very destructive force.

Is that hurricane or something?

[Shady]

Im totally fine with .

Is that hurricane or something?

Envy. You should know it well.

[dre]

Why would I know envy? Im in my 30's and already in the top 5%

[Moonlight Graham]

Did you not read the parable of the servants and the talents I posted?

What's the point you're trying to make with it?

[Shady]

Why would I know envy? Im in my 30's and already in the top 5%

Well, I don't think that's very fair. What about people that aren't as lucky?

[GostHacked]

Nah. You don't crucify saviours, you crucify people that earn more money than you. Evny is a very destructive force.

No he going to crucify people who make money through shady means. No one has a problem with people who make their money through legit ethical means. If you are stealing from me just to make your money, we are going to have words .. and some fists flying around.

[kimmy]

If Jesus arrived on earth in 2011, I think he'd be completely appalled at what some Christians are doing in his name. I'm not just thinking of the inbred imbeciles who run around with the "God Hates Fags" signs. I'm also thinking of those who hate the sinner as well as the sin. I'm also thinking of mega-churches that would build a hundred-foot-long, 20-foot high salt-water exotic fish aquarium in their foyer.

Some of the harshest criticism in the New Testament is reserved for those who make a great public display of their religion, because it's not done to show your devotion to god, it's done to show your peers how righteous you are. In other words, it's for your own glorification, not god's glorification. Whether you're praying in front of 60,000 people because you threw a touchdown, or whether you're telling everyone how righteous you are on national TV so that people will vote for you or send you money, you're doing it wrong.

I think that if Jesus could see some of the Christians in the world today, he'd smack the shit out of them and tell them to go read his book.

-k

[GostHacked]

Good points Kimmy!

[Shwa]

I think that if Jesus could see some of the Christians in the world today, he'd smack the shit out of them and tell them to go read his book.

The Old Testament?

[dre]

If Jesus arrived on earth in 2011, I think he'd be completely appalled at what some Christians

Christians would beat the piss out of him, and call him a hippy.

[olp1fan]

Jesus and Clark Kent have a lot in common but the most they have in common is they were never real people

[Guest American Woman]

I think that if Jesus could see some of the Christians in the world today, he'd smack the shit out of them ....

I don't think you know much about Jesus and his teachings if this is what you truly think.

[Guest Manny]

Jesus and Clark Kent have a lot in common but the most they have in common is they were never real people

Jesus becomes real, every time you believe on him.

[kimmy]

The Old Testament?

The New Testament. It seems like a lot of supposed Christians are happier with the Old Testament.

I don't think you know much about Jesus and his teachings if this is what you truly think.

Figuratively speaking, of course. He's smack the shit out of them with harsh criticism, not fists. Although, I recall he did use a whip on the money changers in the temple...

-k

[Guest American Woman]

Figuratively speaking, of course. He's smack the shit out of them with harsh criticism, not fists.

Nothing that didn't occur back in the day; it's not just "Christians in the world today."

Although, I recall he did use a whip on the money changers in the temple..

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the Temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords and drove all from the Temple, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said: 'Get out of here.' (John 2:13-16)

It doesn't say he used the whip on the money changers. It doesn't say anything about striking them with the whip.

Edited November 12, 2011 by American Woman

[kimmy]

Nothing that didn't occur back in the day; it's not just "Christians in the world today."

Jesus would have been appalled by a lot of things done by the church and a lot of attitudes held by the church throughout history. But today? Today mainstream Christianity does embrace the idea of love and outreach rather than righteousness and condemnation.

But then you've got some of these other guys... like the guy holding the prayerathon in Detroit this weekend.

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the Temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords and drove all from the Temple, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said: 'Get out of here.' (John 2:13-16)

It doesn't say he used the whip on the money changers. It doesn't say anything about striking them with the whip.

So he ran around brandishing a whip and flipping over tables... even supposing he never struck anyone, the message is pretty clear, yes? I think Jesus would be more disgusted by Lou Engle or Fred Phelps than he was with the money changers.

-k

[Guest American Woman]

So he ran around brandishing a whip and flipping over tables... even supposing he never struck anyone, the message is pretty clear, yes? I think Jesus would be more disgusted by Lou Engle or Fred Phelps than he was with the money changers.

It wasn't "the message" I was questioning.

As for "some Christians today," I've no doubt that there have been Christians throughout history who have been every bit as "disgusting" as you claim Lou Engle and/or Fred Phelps to be; as far as I know, they haven't killed anyone in the name of Christianity.

I just find it odd when self proclaimed atheists speak of what Jesus would or wouldn't do, making misrepresentations of him in the process of criticizing Christians, stating what they think he would do/feel. I really don't get that.