Hey let's talk about the Leafs

overthere · March 25, 2014

I'd love to know why there are so many Leafs fans in other cities. Sooner we find a cause, the sooner we can work on a cure.

I can explain Edmonton:because all the intelligent people leave southern Ontario at their earliest convenience.

Another puzzle solved.

I know there are many many thousands in Edmonton and Calgary because they can get jobs and buy homes: neither of those opportunities are available in ON. Simple really. It also explains the Habs fans here. And Canucks, though that tends to be more cyclical.

overthere · March 25, 2014

"They love to back a winner**, and they most certainly are , second in Cups baby !"

Maybe there are some people that are alive now that remember the Leafs but not for much longer. I hope somebody is taking steps to preserve those grainy clips of Foster Hewitt stumbling through the last win in 1967. It will be the only record of a fabled Leafs win in existence as all the oldtimers perish or succumb to dementia.

overthere · March 25, 2014

Ontario has a large Dispora? I'm sure it does.

According to this site Cubs tickets go from $340 down to $19. Looks like there are quality seats for under $100 everywhere.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/ticketing/seating.jsp

Lower Bowl seats at the ACC for Leaf games are usually north of $200.

Lower bowl seats in Edmonton are north of $200, and people buy those too. Go figure.

$19 for a Cubs seat? I doubt that ever happens in reality. They cost $40 plus on the rooftops outside the stadium. Aside from that, Wrigley seats more than twice what ACC seats, they sell out everything, there are 81 home games in the regular season, and playoff seats/revenue are not an issue in either place. And here are two guarantees: they sell far, far more beer at Wrigley, and the revenue on the street scene will be exponentially higher in Chicago.

I like to plan trips there so I can catch games in both Chicago stadiums and pop up to Milwaukee on the train. Their park is usually jumping too.

guyser · March 25, 2014

Aside from that, Wrigley seats more than twice what ACC seats, they sell out everything, there are 81 home games in the regular season, and playoff seats/revenue are not an issue in either place.

If by saying they sell out everything, you mean slightly less than 80% of home games....well then...

And here are two guarantees: they sell far, far more beer at Wrigley, and the revenue on the street scene will be exponentially higher in Chicago.

Who knows about the beer, but we do know they sell it far far cheaper than at ACC. As for outside revenue, they dont get any of that apart from parking concessions, food sold off property isnt there $$ Edited March 25, 2014 by Guyser2

guyser · March 25, 2014

"They love to back a winner**, and they most certainly are , second in Cups baby !"

Maybe there are some people that are alive now that remember the Leafs but not for much longer. I hope somebody is taking steps to preserve those grainy clips of Foster Hewitt stumbling through the last win in 1967. It will be the only record of a fabled Leafs win in existence as all the oldtimers perish or succumb to dementia.

Why not for much longer. 1967 means that someone 53 or 54 was 7 when they won. Big whoop...they ll recall some of it.

They will win some day I suspect, the cup is very hard to win and so many cards have to fall right, but thats why they play

guyser · March 25, 2014

I can explain Edmonton:because all the intelligent people leave southern Ontario at their earliest convenience.

Another puzzle solved.

If they moved to Edmonton that rules out them having brains doesnt it?

I mean really.....Edmonton ?

I know there are many many thousands in Edmonton and Calgary because they can get jobs and buy homes: neither of those opportunities are available in ON. Simple really. It also explains the Habs fans here. And Canucks, though that tends to be more cyclical.

REal estate market is hot in TO.

Maybe you meant cheap homes? But not Calgary.

Shady · March 26, 2014

They've gone from 2nd in the east to barely in or just out in about a week and a half. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I know Bernier missed some games, but still. If they don't make the playoffs, as much as I like and respect him, they need to look for a new coach.

Black Dog · March 26, 2014

They've gone from 2nd in the east to barely in or just out in about a week and a half. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I know Bernier missed some games, but still. If they don't make the playoffs, as much as I like and respect him, they need to look for a new coach.

Regression, baby. The goaltending fell to earth and the whole house of cards came down with it. Exactly what I said would happen.

Leafs's chances of making the dance are around 25% right now. All the teams chasing them for the wildcard spot have games in hand.

BubberMiley · March 26, 2014

They've gone from 2nd in the east to barely in or just out in about a week and a half. I'm not exactly sure what happened.

I believe I told you a long time ago. They choke. That's what they do.

Shady · March 26, 2014

I believe I told you a long time ago. They choke. That's what they do.

Sure they do.

Boges · March 26, 2014

Hey at least they didn't start the game going down 2-0. (small victories)

Black Dog · March 26, 2014

I believe I told you a long time ago. They choke. That's what they do.

Choking to me suggests high expectations, like they were expected to waltz into the playoffs. Doesn't really apply here since they've been a fraud from the get go and only people like Shady were fooled.

Mighty AC · March 26, 2014

Blowing that lead, in such a dramatic fashion, against a Boston team tired from an extremely hectic last two weeks caused by the marathon bombing would probably count as a choke. Hanging around in the top 4 to 8 teams in the East for the entire season, only to blow it in the last few weeks will also count, if it happens.

Edited March 26, 2014 by Mighty AC

Black Dog · March 26, 2014

Blowing that lead, in such a dramatic fashion, against a Boston team tired from an extremely hectic last two weeks caused by the marathon bombing would probably count as a choke. Hanging around in the top 4 to 8 teams in the East for the entire season, only to blow it in the last few weeks will also count, if it happens.

You make it sound like hanging around in 4-8 place in the East is a real accomplishment. When you consider there's four terrible teams and two or three legit teams that were locks for the bottom and top of the standings, someone has to be in the mushy middle.

overthere · March 26, 2014

I mean really.....Edmonton ?

Yep. Packed with former Torontonians. The whole province is full of 'em. They come because they can find work, buy a decent home and not have to commute 2 hours each way to work to do it. Did I mention disposable income yet?

Not only that, but they can continue to watch a seriously shitty hockey team. Two of them given an expansive cable package.

Mighty AC · March 26, 2014

You make it sound like hanging around in 4-8 place in the East is a real accomplishment.

I get that you're saying the Leafs are not a valid contender. I don't think that anyone except the most deluded members of Leafs Nation think they are. The Leafs are a mediocre middle team, but being in a solid playoff position all year only to blow it at the end is still choking.

Edited March 26, 2014 by Mighty AC

overthere · March 26, 2014

only to blow it at the end is still choking.

They should put it on Canadian calendars, along with Thanksgiving in October and Queen Victorias Birthday in May.

It's an icon, a Rite of Spring.

Black Dog · March 26, 2014

I get that you're saying the Leafs are not a valid contender. I don't think that anyone except the most deluded members of Leafs Nation think they are. The Leafs are a mediocre middle team, but being in a solid playoff position all year only to blow it at the end is still choking.

I still don't see the choke since bubble teams like that, by definition, can go either way and it's not like they ever really had a commanding grip on a playoff spot. But to each their own.

Black Dog · March 26, 2014

They should put it on Canadian calendars, along with Thanksgiving in October and Queen Victorias Birthday in May.

It's an icon, a Rite of Spring.

Right up there with the Oilers' annual top draft pick, eh?

guyser · March 26, 2014

Yep. Packed with former Torontonians. The whole province is full of 'em.

Full of 'em.....you mean after BC and Sask which accounts for about half of internal migration, and it aint Torontonians per se, third place is Ontarians which obviously includes TO folks.

They come because they can find work, buy a decent home and not have to commute 2 hours each way to work to do it. Did I mention disposable income yet?

Not only that, but they can continue to watch a seriously shitty hockey team. Two of them given an expansive cable package.

No doubt, cheaper homes, less stress in many ways, more room. Why not?

The OIlers and FLames wont be that way for long I suspect.

Edited March 26, 2014 by Guyser2

Black Dog · March 26, 2014

A lot of Alberta migrants from the R.O.C. come from the east coast, which is very much Leafs/Habs country.

overthere · March 28, 2014

Full of 'em.....you mean after BC and Sask which accounts for about half of internal migration, and it aint Torontonians per se, third place is Ontarians which obviously includes TO folks.

No doubt, cheaper homes, less stress in many ways, more room. Why not?

The OIlers and FLames wont be that way for long I suspect.

I reckon a lot of people from SK and BC are in and out of here depending on the economy back home- and in recent years there has been increasing work back home. I don't see that being the case in ON, their economy is going through some structural change that may be very long term.

It's not cheaper homes that matter, it affordability. Having cheap houses doesn't matter if you don't have a job, somehting not lost on the many Maritimers here.