wyly Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 No, Israel wants their fevered, rabid clerics gone. The Persian people are just fine. and the islamic world wants israels fevered, rabid zionist clerics gone. the jewish people are just fine... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 and most of the world is sick of hearing empty threats from iran how many supporters does israel have at the UN 14?...14 most of the world? ...what most of the world is sick of is apartheid...a just solution for palestinians and all the issues disappear... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
olp1fan Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) how many supporters does israel have at the UN 14?...14 most of the world? ...what most of the world is sick of is apartheid...a just solution for palestinians and all the issues disappear... that doesn't mean they aren't sick of iran that just means they're sick of israel they can be sick of both you know How many allies does Iran have? less than 14 eh I know I am sick of both of them I don't support either of them but it seems you're siding with Iran Edited November 11, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Bonam Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 if the palestinians are content islamic nations will have no longer have an issue with israel... Quote
kactus Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 I suspect you haven't read many of my posts but that point applies equally to so-called allies as Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. I am tired of Israel, the country with the best human rights record in the area (albeit not perfect) being singled out. And i suspect you haven't read many of my posts either. No body is singling out Israel. So please stop playing the victim card when the very own title of this thread makes Israel the aggressor. Admit that if it's Human rights issue there are many other places you could start with. Quote
kactus Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 No, Israel wants their fevered, rabid clerics gone. The Persian people are just fine. Thanks for confirming that Persians are fine. I guess you would have said the same thing about libyans, Iraqis, afghanis, etc etc etc before they got attacked. Does supporting israel for you justify an attack on any country in the region just because you don't like their government? Quote
kactus Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) And how many Japanese would have died in a protracted land invasion tight blockade including food and medicine? But it's easy for you; if the West does it bad, if the East or some primitive group does it, good. Why not move to Pakistan? The issue concerns application of nuclear weapon not siding with east or west. In this case west used it against a non nuclear country. Furthermore, japan was already literally at war with US by attacking it's navy. The creation of nuclear weapons and the tragedy of Japan in WW2 is a deterrent on all out war. The human race does not want nuclear weapon but we have them.... Coming back to the topic, speculation on Iran firing on Israel is just nonsense. They are too close and Iran would suffer as well. US as part of a Global Alliance can put an end to this folly. Edited November 11, 2011 by kactus Quote
kactus Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Hmm, looks like you are right. Ah well, can't blame him for saying what he thinks. At least it's not the double speak we usually get with our leaders. We need to create an enemy. It diverts the sheeple's thinking away from the economic woes and puts the spot light on a contrived enemy of the people. Then the real enemies of the people can carry on robbing our money from us and continue to live in the style they really believe they deserve. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Thanks for confirming that Persians are fine. I guess you would have said the same thing about libyans, Iraqis, afghanis, etc etc etc before they got attacked. Does supporting israel for you justify an attack on any country in the region just because you don't like their government? Interesting that your list does not include Israel, which has also been attacked....many times, including the Gulf War. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 You can not speak for 'we'. War plays no favorites and is not fair. It's not a violent sport. Is that how you look at it, as a sport? I've seen a lot of crap posted by you, but that is pretty low. It is politics by other means and woe be to those in the way. That's how it has been and will be no matter the 'rules'...no matter the children. Status quo is acceptable. I'd like to change that. BTW: The word is 'affect'...not 'effect'. Think of it this way: The effects affected you and you'll never get it wrong. Ah yes, thanks for the English lesson Doggy ... I did save some of those treats for you. I think you deserved one , here you go. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Is that how you look at it, as a sport? I've seen a lot of crap posted by you, but that is pretty low. Are you f**king blind now, too?? Status quo is acceptable. I'd like to change that. You have zero clue who Von C is...Wikipedia is your friend. Ah yes, thanks for the English lesson Doggy ... I did save some of those treats for you. I think you deserved one , here you go. I'd hate for people to think you're an idiot who doesn't even know the difference between effect and affect. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Are you f**king blind now, too?? You are starting to come apart at the stitches here Doggy. Want another treat? Will that make you feel better? You have zero clue who Von C is...Wikipedia is your friend. As I said before, I don't have a clue who he is. So you are correct here. Is Wikipedia a good enough source? I'd hate for people to think you're an idiot who doesn't even know the difference between effect and affect. As we know it is a common mistake when using these two terms. I admitted I was wrong. But keep on hammering on it, because obviously that makes me look like the idiot. Have we not seen this type of thing from you a few times already? Quote
Bonam Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 You can not speak for 'we'. War plays no favorites and is not fair. It's not a violent sport. Is that how you look at it, as a sport? I've seen a lot of crap posted by you, but that is pretty low. Free reading comprehension lesson for you. Notice the bolded word. The "not" could apply to "violent" or "sport". Which do you think war is not? Not violent? Or not a sport? To belabor what exactly DogOnPorch was saying: sports, even violent ones, have rules and are "fair" by some standard, in that teams/players compete on some kind of even playing field. War, on the other hand, not being a sport, is not "fair", and is not supposed to be "fair". You can thank me later. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Free reading comprehension lesson for you. Notice the bolded word. The "not" could apply to "violent" or "sport". Which do you think war is not? Not violent? Or not a sport? Ah I see where I made the error. My apologies to DoP. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 You are starting to come apart at the stitches here Doggy. Want another treat? Will that make you feel better? No...you're just blind and perhaps daft, apparently. DOP: It's not a violent sport. GH: Is that how you look at it, as a sport? Duh. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Moonlight Graham Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 U.S. Plans Bomb Sales in Gulf to Counter Iran WASHINGTON—The Obama administration has quietly drawn up plans to provide a key Persian Gulf ally with thousands of advanced "bunker-buster" bombs and other munitions, part of a stepped-up U.S. effort to build a regional coalition to counter Iran. The proposed sale to the United Arab Emirates would vastly expand the existing capabilities of the country's air force to target fixed structures, which could include bunkers and tunnels—the kind of installations where Iran is believed to be developing weapons. WSJ war drums boom-boom-boom... Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 war drums boom-boom-boom... Gee...reads like Canada buying lots of guided munitions for Libya. Everybody just take a number please and we will get your bombs to you as soon as possible. This is the busy holiday season after all. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Posted November 12, 2011 yes, lets arm more countries in the middle east...this sure will end well Quote
jbg Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 how many supporters does israel have at the UN 14?...14 most of the world? ...what most of the world is sick of is apartheid...a just solution for palestinians and all the issues disappear... And if you had your way the Jews disappear with the issues. You are sick. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 yes, lets arm more countries in the middle east...this sure will end well Anything to shut those retards over there up and get them to quit wasting the worlds time is a win at this point. Even if it means millions of square miles of glass. We sat around and did nothing while Israel, India, and Pakistan and North Korea built nukes. Doesnt seem like anyone cares much anymore. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) And if you had your way the Jews disappear with the issues. You are sick. If all youre going to do is cry racism every time someone is critical of Israel then why even participate? Stop trying to pretend youre a victim when youre not. Edited November 12, 2011 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
kactus Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Why should we disbelieve their words? Are you biting on the stereotype of Muslim fanatics, or secular Muslim leaders such as Saddam, as being liars as well as crazy? That is a bigoted, racist stereotype. Hold it there....According to you there are reasons to implicate that Iran is going to attack Israel first and "wipe it off the map" (although this hasn't been explicitly said nor is there remotely any justification for Iran to do so when the consequences are fully known) and you say "why should we disbelieve their words?" On the other hand, if the government of Iran tells us that they are acquiring nuclear capability for peaceful purposes then they are telling us a lie and we shouldn't believe them! Who is being selective now? Edited November 12, 2011 by kactus Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 On the other hand, if the government of Iran tells us that they are acquiring nuclear capability for peaceful purposes then they are telling us a lie and we shouldn't believe them! Who is being selective now? Who indeed....the UN's IAEA: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15643460 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 ....Stop trying to pretend youre a victim when youre not. How do you know that? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Who indeed....the UN's IAEA: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15643460 Have you also read where this report says: The report stops short, our correspondent adds, of saying explicitly that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb. and then it goes to say.... Experts say Iran is at least one year away, perhaps several, from being able to produce a nuclear bomb. Read my posts preceding this with JBG instead of indeed being selective. Edited November 12, 2011 by kactus Quote
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