DogOnPorch Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 Never heard of them, sounds kind of like the Clash……..I’m assuming they are referring to the AR-18 (off shoot of the AR-15 design) though….It was one of the more “popular” western weapons used by the IRA, hence I assume the lyrics to the song……….5.56 NATO/.223 Remington, the cartridge of choice for western militaries, police forces, groups wishing to start their own religion and those that fear the coming apocalypse by the zombie hordes. Yes...trademark of the Provos back in the day. Lol...Zombie hordes...Walking Dead marathon yesterday. Gang of 4 is indeed from the Clash era. Same sort of band. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Derek L Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 Yes...trademark of the Provos back in the day. Lol...Zombie hordes...Walking Dead marathon yesterday. Gang of 4 is indeed from the Clash era. Same sort of band. And you better believe the Walking Dead was watched over here!!! I wonder who shot his boy? Yeah, they defiantly have the Clash “sound”……..Are they Irish? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) And you better believe the Walking Dead was watched over here!!! I wonder who shot his boy? Yeah, they defiantly have the Clash “sound”……..Are they Irish? Myself + zee womens wuz watching 'Walking Dead', as well. She freaked during the zombie highway walkby. She freaked during the ... "I'm coming to get you, Barbara!" ...scene in the 'Night of the Living Dead', too. So no surprise... Gang of 4 were a Leeds band....but, pro-IRA. Edited October 18, 2011 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rick Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 so you see Canada as a lemming? if your best friends jumped off of a cliff into jagged rocks would you join them? Don't tease us.... I keep hoping he'll do it. Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
Rick Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 Not right now it isn't, give it half a year and rich people will be the target of arson and murders, class warfare turning into literal warfare Less than that.And I predict it won't be restricted to just rich people but also those who support them and continuously belittle the left. IE: Right wing media pundits and bloggers Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
Rick Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 Absolutely not. The U.S. has been caught fabricating "evidence" against other countries far too many times. Enough is enough. Precisely.It'd be nice if Harper could keep his nose out of others business and asses for once... Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
PIK Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) Bill don't act like you give a damn about the safety of muslims, I've seen your posts about them and if we're going to start liberating people we should start with the north koreans where there are dozens of death camps, iran is small apples compared to the atrocities in north korea plus it would help our friends South Korea Iran is more then small apples. When the religous nuts run a country, anything can happen. Will we be going to war with them I doubt it. The people of Iran will either do it or Isreal does, but it won't be us. But in this world we can't just hide in our own borders, it can't be done and anyways everyone else in the world will be here to.To many chamberlians out there right now, that think only america and the jews are bad and the muslims and others are just misunderstood. I wish thing were simple but they are not. Edited October 18, 2011 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
olp1fan Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Iran is more then small apples. When the religous nuts run a country, anything can happen. Will we be going to war with them I doubt it. The people of Iran will either do it or Isreal does, but it won't be us. But in this world we can't just hide in our own borders, it can't be done and anyways everyone else in the world will be here to.To many chamberlians out there right now, that think only america and the jews are bad and the muslims and others are just misunderstood. I wish thing were simple but they are not. When the religous nuts run a country, anything can happen. Yes, like George W Bush, we've seen that awful experiment I prefer we not get involved in civil disputes like palestine and israel... neither side is right canada might not get involved in the warring part but you bet your ass that we'll be giving israel billions of dollars in support against Iran Edited October 19, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 When the religous nuts run a country, anything can happen. Yes, like George W Bush, we've seen that awful experiment ...or Chretien and Martin....Canada too had to kill people to save them! I prefer we not get involved in civil disputes like palestine and israel... neither side is right So you only want to be on the "right" side? canada might not get involved in the warring part but you bet your ass that we'll be giving israel billions of dollars in support against Iran I doubt that...Israel may have to give Canada some money instead! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Sukhpreet Singh Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 not a single shred of evidence that they are producing a nuclear weapon. This is war propoganda similar to Iraq in 2003. How exactly are they a threat to world peace? Iran's military is weak, they are not going to attack anyone which includes isreal which as hundreds of nuclear weapons and could easily obliterate Iran in a war. Iran may strike back in self defense if Isreal attacks, but in terms of aggression they will not attack anyone. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 not a single shred of evidence that they are producing a nuclear weapon. This is war propoganda similar to Iraq in 2003. How exactly are they a threat to world peace? Iran's military is weak, they are not going to attack anyone which includes isreal which as hundreds of nuclear weapons and could easily obliterate Iran in a war. Iran may strike back in self defense if Isreal attacks, but in terms of aggression they will not attack anyone. Explain Hezbollah. Quote
dre Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Iran is more then small apples. When the religous nuts run a country, anything can happen. Will we be going to war with them I doubt it. The people of Iran will either do it or Isreal does, but it won't be us. But in this world we can't just hide in our own borders, it can't be done and anyways everyone else in the world will be here to.To many chamberlians out there right now, that think only america and the jews are bad and the muslims and others are just misunderstood. I wish thing were simple but they are not. To me Iran pretty much does what you would expect it to do. They sponsor various regional groups (mostly shia)... they get into a little covert military activity and get into the odd scrap by proxy. These are things you would expect from a middle tier regional player. Its the same kind of shit the west does all the time. As for religion nuts... I think that at the end of the day Irans leaders enjoy a very lavish and privileged existance and I wouldnt label the "supreme leader" as a phsycopath based on his history. Hes seems pretty careful and measured to me, and seems to be all about preserving his personal position and privilege. And whether or not Canada was to get involved that really depends. But we should stay out of it unless theres a very direct and compelling national security reason, that is supported by evidence we get to see for us to dump a whole bunch more blood and money on the sand in the ME. On the other hand... more turmoil in the middle east will drive up oil prices and we are a net exporter! Edited November 2, 2011 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Army Guy Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 To me Iran pretty much does what you would expect it to do. They sponsor various regional groups (mostly shia)... they get into a little covert military activity and get into the odd scrap by proxy. These are things you would expect from a middle tier regional player. Its the same kind of shit the west does all the time. You make it sound like the groups they sponsor are boy scouts, or simple travel groups....when in fact they have created an entire organization to export terrorism through out the region and world... The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) was created following the 1979 revolution to protect and promote the objectives of the revolution. As a foreign force, they have also exported that revolution, by training Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and other groups. IRG link This is what you call alittle covert activity... Shatt al Arab Dispute 1969-71 Iranian Plot: Iraq 1970 Iranian Revolution 1978-79 Iran Hostage Crisis 1979-81 Second Kurdistan Movement 1979-95 Iran-Iraq War 1980-90 Battle at the Grand Mosque 1987 Strait of Hormuz Incident 1988 How about these military figures.... link As for religion nuts... I think that at the end of the day Irans leaders enjoy a very lavish and privileged existance and I wouldnt label the "supreme leader" as a phsycopath based on his history. Hes seems pretty careful and measured to me, and seems to be all about preserving his personal position and privilege. I think your right, however if they could strike Israel hard enough and with a clear death blow, without Israel striking back i do think they would do it...He is all about saving his own skin in the game, but he freely will send others to their deaths....a quick look at the Iran Iraq war tells us that... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
GostHacked Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 We don't need to go to war with Iran. End of story. Quote
Sukhpreet Singh Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Just remember Iran was a normal democracy before the U.S. got involved and overthrew the government for their own selfish reasons. This led to the Shaw who oppressed his citizens which led to more anger from Iranians and we saw the islamic law supporters come to power. They democraticly elected their leader, and the U.S. had no right to do what it did. Mind your own business and cease these covert operations. Quote
Wild Bill Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Just remember Iran was a normal democracy before the U.S. got involved and overthrew the government for their own selfish reasons. This led to the Shaw who oppressed his citizens which led to more anger from Iranians and we saw the islamic law supporters come to power. They democraticly elected their leader, and the U.S. had no right to do what it did. Mind your own business and cease these covert operations. Yeah, they democratically elected religious leaders who murder gays and lash women! Mind our own business, indeed! We have every right to be appalled at the actions of cavemen religious barbarians! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
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