GostHacked Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Is Iraq and Libya a threat to the flow of oil in both regions now? They never were in the first place. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 They never were in the first place. Threats of nationalization and the invasion of other oil producing Neighbours says different. Quote
bud Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) General stability of oil markets and impact on world economies. Specifically, more oil services contracts for Canadian companies like those in Iraq and Libya. Just ask Paul Martin! this means nothing to canadians as individuals. a teacher making $60k/year will continue to make $60k/year. a small business owner making $80k/year will continue to make the same amount. the only people making money are the top people from the military industrial complex and companies like kbr. you, you will make nothing. but i'm sure they enjoy seeing mouthpieces like you with their pompom's cheering for more wars. Edited October 17, 2011 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 this means nothing to canadians as individuals. Yes it does...you would be the first to bitch about $2.00/liter gasoline. Also, individual Canadians work the rigs in these far off places. a teacher making $60k/year will continue to make $60k/year. a small business owner making $80k/year will continue to make the same amount. ...but they would pay more for petroluem products and other cost impacts on the Canadian economy. the only people making money are the top people from the military industrial complex and companies like kbr. you, you will make nothing. but i'm sure they enjoy seeing mouthpieces like you with their pompom's cheering for more wars. The school teacher's retirement funds are invested in those very things. You sir...are a fool. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Threats of nationalization and the invasion of other oil producing Neighbours says different. Venezuela also nationalized their oil industries, but we are not going to war with them anytime soon. The real reason for the invasion of Iraq was to prevent them from trading oil in anything else but the US greenback. Same goes for Libya. Both countries were making efforts to establish other oil markets where the oil is traded in another currency. Libya introduced a gold Dinar. Gold would be the item traded for oil, not the US greenback. If they managed to get another oil trading market going (like Iran wants to create) that would mean the US or someone else would have to buy up those greenbacks. And the US cannot buy back it's own currency at this point, it does not have enough money to even buy back it's own currency. The US wants to maintain the control of oil through making sure it is traded in US dollars. Edited October 17, 2011 by GostHacked Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Venezuela also nationalized their oil industries, but we are not going to war with them anytime soon. The real reason for the invasion of Iraq was to prevent them from trading oil in anything else but the US greenback. Same goes for Libya. Both countries were making efforts to establish other oil markets where the oil is traded in another currency. Libya introduced a gold Dinar. Gold would be the item traded for oil, not the US greenback. If they managed to get another oil trading market going (like Iran wants to create) that would mean the US or someone else would have to buy up those greenbacks. And the US cannot buy back it's own currency at this point, it does not have enough money to even buy back it's own currency. The US wants to maintain the control of oil through making sure it is traded in US dollars. Prior to the invasion, the Iraqis we’re trading “oil for food”………A different “conspiracy” altogether. Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 I'd bet Derek is on the Conservative pay roll Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 I'd bet Derek is on the Conservative pay roll Why? Because that's not how 'regular' Canadians think? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 I'd bet Derek is on the Conservative pay roll No, I give them money…………I make my money now, mostly from energy & mining companies……… Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 Why? Because that's not how 'regular' Canadians think? anyone who still thinks Iraq was a necessary war after everything we know now is missing a few marbles Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Why? Because that's not how 'regular' Canadians think? anyone who still thinks Iraq was a necessary war after everything we know now is missing a few marbles I’m crazy like a fox……sitting at home in sweat pants, eating a sub, well doing research work for a client, all well listening to CBC and typing on a discussion forum……..Billing $250 hr from their retainer……..I’m friggen nuts Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 ame='olp1fan' date='17 October 2011 - 01:44 PM' timestamp='1318884267' post='720014'] I’m crazy like a fox……sitting at home in sweat pants, eating a sub, well doing research work for a client, all well listening to CBC and typing on a discussion forum……..Billing $250 hr from their retainer……..I’m friggen nuts so you are one of those people who flaunts their wealth, you can make a million dollars a year but you'd still be wrong about Iran, about the Iraq war Quote
GostHacked Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Prior to the invasion, the Iraqis we’re trading “oil for food”………A different “conspiracy” altogether. That program was created because the sanctions were not working. The result was to get Saddam out. The sanctions only end up hurting the Iraqis. And in a way the sanctions prevented Iraq from trading oil in another market, actually it seemed to prevent them trading oil period, until that program came about. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 .... but you'd still be wrong about Iran, about the Iraq war What's the market value for being "right" about Iran or Iraq? What's your angle? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) What's the market value for being "right" about Iran or Iraq? What's your angle? no amount of money can match pwning a yuppie in a political discussion its almost as if he thinks he wins because he has more money like hes some elite neo con Edited October 17, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 so you are one of those people who flaunts their wealth, you can make a million dollars a year but you'd still be wrong about Iran, about the Iraq war Well it’s certainly not a million a year, I tend to pay more heed to those that are in the “business” and stand to “win” or “lose”, and though perhaps not directly influencing policy, still making up a small part of the “collective group think”……….as opposed to those sitting in a basement with a tin-foil hat watching Jesse Ventura. Hell, I even know the secret handshake. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 no amount of money can match pwing a yuppie in a political discussion its almost as if he thinks he wins because he has more money like hes some elite neo con What's "pwing"? Is that claiming that Hong Kong is part of Japan? Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 Well it’s certainly not a million a year, I tend to pay more heed to those that are in the “business” and stand to “win” or “lose”, and though perhaps not directly influencing policy, still making up a small part of the “collective group think”……….as opposed to those sitting in a basement with a tin-foil hat watching Jesse Ventura. Hell, I even know the secret handshake. I have a job and live in an apartment, I do fine enough but I'd rather be poor than be a sheeple Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 no amount of money can match pwning a yuppie in a political discussion its almost as if he thinks he wins because he has more money like hes some elite neo con It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick. Poverty sucks, so many of us are motivated to stay out of poverty. Money talks...bullshit walks. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 I have a job and live in an apartment, I do fine enough but I'd rather be poor than be a sheeple And marching to the conspiracy theory drum is not being a sheeple? I thought “sticking it to the man” was even trendy amongst some age groups? Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick. Poverty sucks, so many of us are motivated to stay out of poverty. Money talks...bullshit walks. Not right now it isn't, give it half a year and rich people will be the target of arson and murders, class warfare turning into literal warfare Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Not right now it isn't, give it half a year and rich people will be the target of arson and murders, class warfare turning into literal warfare You mean like those four hundred in the center of Vancouver....... Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 So why are we so heavily invested in something that can be so easily destabilized? Why have we not gone on to other forms of energy sooner? Because other forms of energy aren't completely invented yet, GH! They're still FAR more expensive! And you can't put technological breakthroughs on a fixed schedule. They could happen today, tomorrow, a hundred years from now or even be proven to be impossible! Throwing money at the problem can SOMETIMES speed things up! Sometimes it can't, because things just don't work that way. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 And marching to the conspiracy theory drum is not being a sheeple? I thought “sticking it to the man” was even trendy amongst some age groups? What is the conspiracy? Iraq was fought under lies, theres plenty evidence backing that up And as for Iran, you'd have to turn off your brain to buy that story Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 You mean like those four hundred in the center of Vancouver....... Not in Canada, in the US and Europe Quote
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