bush_cheney2004 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, hot enough said: You love the evil of the USA because it is in your genes; you are a war mongering people, an evil people, a people of genocide and no, it won't change with deeply evil people like you supporting the deep evil. Correct...it won't ever change. We laugh at people like you every day because you still choose to benefit from USA "evil" while decrying same. 2 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada has no "moral" standing when it comes to lecturing Israel about stolen land. Now you are defending Israel's evil. You're really an evil lovin' guy/gal. Canada has a lot to ask forgiveness for but that doesn't justify Israel's war crimes and terrorism. Quote The very idea is laughable. It is laughable, you're right for once. Quote Same for the USA, which is why we support Israel with lots of foreign aid instead of pretending to be "aboriginal" saviors. Back to your old ways where you make no sense whatsoever. You support Israel's war crimes and terrorism because you want them to support yours. Two Mafia countries who have made a pact. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, hot enough said: Now you are defending Israel's evil. You're really an evil lovin' guy/gal. Canada has a lot to ask forgiveness for but that doesn't justify Israel's war crimes and terrorism. If "war crimes" and "terrorism" against the locals has been acceptable in Canada for over 150 years, it's good enough for Israel which faces real existential threats. "Forgiveness" doesn't mean jack, just like your nano-thermite pixie dust nonsense. Israel can rightfully tell any Canadian critics to go to hell. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: just like your nano-thermite pixie dust nonsense. When you are so wiling to prevaricate, nothing you ever say can be trusted. But that's a given for you are a defender of the greatest evil imaginable so there is no reason for anyone to ever trust anything you say. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, hot enough said: When you are so wiling to prevaricate, nothing you ever say can be trusted. But that's a given for you are a defender of the greatest evil imaginable so there is no reason for anyone to ever trust anything you say. It's not about me...and certainly never about you. The world's emigres (legal and illegal) still keep voting for the "evil" USA, and there is nothing you can do about that either. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It's not about me... It is about you. You prevaricate/fabricate as easily as you breathe. You picked the perfect name, two of the world's greatest liars, and you wallow in that too. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, hot enough said: It is about you. You prevaricate/fabricate as easily as you breathe. You picked the perfect name, two of the world's greatest liars, and you wallow in that too. Oh...so you are just jealous ! Try harder and maybe someday you too will be great. Excuse me while I check on some more immigrants heading for the USA ! Edited July 30, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Try harder Try harder to be a world class fabricator, a lover of deep evil, no, you keep that. It suits you to a T. Edited July 30, 2017 by hot enough Quote
marcus Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 BC2004, trying to excuse Israel's actions towards the Palestinians by pointing to how Canada treated the aboriginals in the past is more desperate than those who try to excuse Israel's actions, by pointing to the worst human rights abusers around the world today. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, marcus said: BC2004, trying to excuse Israel's actions towards the Palestinians by pointing to how Canada treated the aboriginals in the past is more desperate than those who try to excuse Israel's actions, by pointing to the worst human rights abusers around the world today. But I am not trying to excuse anything of the sort....I am reporting the historical and present facts of the matter, cutting through all of the moral nonsense spewed by Israel's critics. Want to have more credibility on such things ? Then start at home, because Canada is still abusing and killing "aboriginals" on stolen land. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/30/2017 at 0:07 AM, bush_cheney2004 said: Correct...it won't ever change. We laugh at people like you every day because you still choose to benefit from USA "evil" while decrying same. You mean the benefit of draining our resources to adhere to NATO standards? Also creating more terrorism across the globe is not benefiting me at all. Quote
Argus Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 10:13 PM, marcus said: You most certainly did not point out anything that counters that Israel is an Apartheid State. Arab Israelis have more rights than Arabs enjoy in any other country, including the right to vote and run for office and the protection of a free and independent judicial system. That alone should be enough to counter your fantasy of Israel as an Apartheid state. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
SpankyMcFarland Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 2:12 PM, Argus said: I just pointed out to you how they do not. Your only basis for even suggesting they do is by equating non-Israelis with Israelis and demanding they have the same rights - even while insisting their territory is not part of Israel and does not belong to Israel. You are sucking and blowing at the same time. The non-Israeli land in question has been under Israeli control for fifty years so it is very like Israeli territory now. The Israelis may choose to prolong this legal limbo indefinitely as they continue to expand settlements and segregate the population. Quote
Argus Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Just now, SpankyMcFarland said: The non-Israeli land in question has been under Israeli control for fifty years so it is very like Israeli territory now. The Israelis may choose to prolong this legal limbo indefinitely as they continue to expand settlements and segregate the population. No country in the world accepts the West Bank or Gaza as Israeli territory so why should they expect Israel to allow the occupants to vote in Israeli elections? Nor do the occupants want to be Israeli citizens nor do they see themselves as Israeli citizens. They are implacably and violently hostile towards Israel. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
SpankyMcFarland Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Just now, Argus said: No country in the world accepts the West Bank or Gaza as Israeli territory so why should they expect Israel to allow the occupants to vote in Israeli elections? Nor do the occupants want to be Israeli citizens nor do they see themselves as Israeli citizens. They are implacably and violently hostile towards Israel. Who proposes that? That will never happen. Israel will take as much of the West Bank as it can WITHOUT the Arab population. In fact there is a proposal to swap a piece of Israel proper with its Israeli Arab population for parts of the WB proper. Both sides think tribally as in South Africa. Quote
Argus Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Just now, SpankyMcFarland said: Who proposes that? That will never happen. Israel will take as much of the West Bank as it can WITHOUT the Arab population. In fact there is a proposal to swap a piece of Israel proper with its Israeli Arab population for parts of the WB proper. Both sides think tribally as in South Africa. Realistically, given the generations of hatred, there is no way they could ever combine without a murderous civil war. Even living side-by side as peaceful neighbors ignoring one another is unlikely, which is part of the reason Israel does not want to allow an independent Palestine. It has enough trouble with them as it is. All independence would bring would be a Palestine with fighter jets, anti-aircraft missiles and tanks - all paid for by the Saudis or Iranians. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
marcus Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Argus said: Arab Israelis have more rights than Arabs enjoy in any other country, including the right to vote and run for office and the protection of a free and independent judicial system. That alone should be enough to counter your fantasy of Israel as an Apartheid state. You don't seem to understand the meaning of Apartheid. It's difficult to have a debate, when you don't know what you're debating. 1 Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Apartheid you say ? Nothing more CanCon than Apartheid....please give credit where credit it is due: Quote I've read quite a few tributes to Mandela written by prominent white folks over the past week, and Mulcair's is, on the surface, different from many of them. What sets his piece it apart from most of the others is the fact that Mulcair makes a fairly direct comparison between South Africa's apartheid regime and Canada's treatment of the First Nations, Inuit and Métis people. He's not wrong, either -- in fact, the apartheid system was based on Canada's Indian Act. Our residential schools, Indian Reserve and many other deeply racist systems inspired South Africa's oppressive regime. I'm glad that at least one of our federal leaders has (somewhat) acknowledged this in their remarks on Mandela's death. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/anne-theriault-/canadas-apartheid_b_4468449.html Edited July 31, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Apartheid you say ? Nothing more CanCon than Apartheid....please give credit where credit it is due: Can you do a comparison of the US genocide against Native Americans and the Canadian genocide against First Nations? Quote
marcus Posted August 1, 2017 Report Posted August 1, 2017 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Apartheid you say ? Nothing more CanCon than Apartheid....please give credit where credit it is due: As the official Comparison Guy (MLCG), can you do a comparison of Michael Jackson's Thriller dance and Psy's Gangnam Style? After that, how about a comparison of Billy Ray Cyrus' Achy Breaky Heart dance vs Beyonce's Single Ladies? Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, marcus said: As the official Comparison Guy.... Still officially waiting for your first post to BDS Canadian invented aparthied. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted August 1, 2017 Report Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, marcus said: As the official Comparison Guy (MLCG), can you do a comparison of Michael Jackson's Thriller dance and Psy's Gangnam Style? After that, how about a comparison of Billy Ray Cyrus' Achy Breaky Heart dance vs Beyonce's Single Ladies? b_c2004 is too wrapped up in spreading how much he/she loves US war crimes, crimes against humanity, US terrorism, US genocides. Edited August 1, 2017 by hot enough Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Posted August 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, hot enough said: b_c2004 is too wrapped up in spreading how much he/she loves US Correct....USA is #1 for legal and illegal immigrants too...including Canadians. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted August 1, 2017 Report Posted August 1, 2017 4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Still officially waiting for your first post to BDS Canadian invented aparthied. It's true. We we have done some TERRIBLE things. We still have some ways to go, but I'm glad we've come to acknowledge many of these terrible things we have done. It's too bad Israel continues to practice apartheid and the Israeli fanboys continue to try to justify their actions by comparing Israel to things that were done in the past or to some of the worst human rights violators in the world. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Posted August 1, 2017 4 hours ago, marcus said: It's true. We we have done some TERRIBLE things. We still have some ways to go, but I'm glad we've come to acknowledge many of these terrible things we have done. It's too bad Israel continues to practice apartheid and the Israeli fanboys continue to try to justify their actions by comparing Israel to things that were done in the past or to some of the worst human rights violators in the world. Still in denial I see, but that is completely expected. Not only was "apartheid" developed in Canada with imperial blessing, it continues to this day with occupied unceded land, broken treaties, disparate incarcerations, homicides, assaults, and a polluted environment. Half ass attempts to apologize for abuses/murders and token compensation for stolen land and resources does not make it all better compared to Israel's actions/policies in the face of real existential threats. Hell, a single convicted terrorist received 500 times more than average settlements for residential school victims, par for Canada's aparthied course. Canada maintains sovereign control over ALL First Nations land and resources, something Israel could only dream of. Israel continues to practice today that which Canada developed and has continued to practice for over 150 years. Israel is about the size of Vancouver Island, not exactly the second largest nation on earth. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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