Ann Coulter's Demonic

[August1991]

I first heard of Ann Coulter from this forum, then I saw references to her on Mark Steyn and youtube. To me, she seems anorexic.

But to be honest, I don't know her. In a Chapters once, I looked at her books. They all seem to be the same: She doesn't like American "Liberals".

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While recently driving on the 401 to Ontario, I heard Coulter talk about civil rights legislation on an America radio station, and talk about her new book. I recently bought a new eReader (Kobo) and received an online book credit. Intrigued, I chose her book.

I've been reading her latest book (Demonic) on an eReader. (It's my first Coulter book.) Wow!

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First, her description of the French Revolution must be translated. Everyone must read this chapter.

Second, she says that only Anglo-Saxon law, English people, are right. In this, she's wrong.

[August1991]

I have posted this comment in this US/Canada forum because of how she portrays the American revolution.

Ann Coulter portrays the American revolution as if it were a "Canadian" revolt. According to Coulter, the Americans celebrate Confederation Day too!

Edited June 30, 2011 by August1991

[dre]

she seems anorexic.

Yeah! The first time I saw her I was POSITIVE she was a white plastic bag stuffed full of deer antlers. :lol:

[bush_cheney2004]

....First, her description of the French Revolution must be translated. Everyone must read this chapter.

However translated, the French Revolution is an important building block for Coulter's political ideology concerning mob rule. A "freeper" describes it well here:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/37909

[sharkman]

I know that the left thinks anyone on the right like her is a nut, but whenever I've heard what she's had to say, she does sometimes go for the controversial thing that causes the left to freak out, but she's usually got a good point. Kind of like Dennis Miller.

[BubberMiley]

I know that the left thinks anyone on the right like her is a nut, but whenever I've heard what she's had to say, she does sometimes go for the controversial thing that causes the left to freak out, but she's usually got a good point. Kind of like D.ennis Miller

Do you really think people are divided up into absolute terms of "the left" and "the right?" Really?

[sharkman]

Do you really think people are divided up into absolute terms of "the left" and "the right?" Really?

No.

[BubberMiley]

No.

So you just talk that way to sound smart?

[WIP]

Yeah! The first time I saw her I was POSITIVE she was a white plastic bag stuffed full of deer antlers. :lol:

Back 20 years ago, when Bill Maher was banging her and made her a celebrity by featuring her as the almost permanent rightwinger on his old Politically Incorrect show, she was pretty damn good looking! The problem is that she is either a vampire or doesn't look in mirrors, to realize that she is too old to be running around in black miniskirts....I find varicose veins a turnoff also.

[WIP]

However translated, the French Revolution is an important building block for Coulter's political ideology concerning mob rule. A "freeper" describes it well here:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/37909

Did you notice that this Canadian Freeper is treating her work with caution -- gleaning through for the stuff that might be useful, rather than giving her work an unqualified endorsement? That's likely because she has been caught plagiarizing the work of others in many of her previous books, and some educated rightwingers already suspected that some of her shifts...especially her sudden jump from libertarian partygirl to Christian conservative five years ago (that stupid book "Godless") likely means she is just another fraud with no real core beliefs...let alone a moral compass...who will say anything to try to impress her rightwing audience.

Her star has certainly fallen from where she was five or ten years ago. Maybe she will try to reinvent herself as a liberal, like Ariana Huffington did!

[sharkman]

So you just talk that way to sound smart?

No.

[Oleg Bach]

Ann is a strange case to look at - One can not tell for sure if she is some righterous avenging arch angel or slightly demonic and mischievious. On the over all I like her...but it could be only because she is a willowy whispy blonde.

[Shady]

Do you really think people are divided up into absolute terms of "the left" and "the right?" Really?

For some people, yes.

[Oleg Bach]

For some people, yes.

A balanced person has both a left and right hand and is in firm control of each...Those that belong to groups that are considered left and right wing are those that love to fight! It is kind of like one hand hitting the other to no avail.

[Oleg Bach]

However translated, the French Revolution is an important building block for Coulter's political ideology concerning mob rule. A "freeper" describes it well here:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/37909

Of with his head screams the toothless hag who dreams of living in the palace but will never clean the bathroom.

[bush_cheney2004]

Did you notice that this Canadian Freeper is treating her work with caution -- gleaning through for the stuff that might be useful, rather than giving her work an unqualified endorsement?

No, he ultimately gives Demonic a strong recommendation:

I’ll rein myself in at this point, as I could go on at some length regarding this issue, but my article is about Coulter’s book, and as I say, it is for the most part (99.9%) an excellent book, and well worth the read.

The "Canadian freeper" appears to be an American, which is very appropriate for yet another American wannabe web site like the Canada Free Press.

[Oleg Bach]

No, he ultimately gives Demonic a strong recommendation:

I’ll rein myself in at this point, as I could go on at some length regarding this issue, but my article is about Coulter’s book, and as I say, it is for the most part (99.9%) an excellent book, and well worth the read.

The "Canadian freeper" appears to be an American, which is very appropriate for yet another American wannabe web site like the Canada Free Press.

Oh please let me be American - please I beg of YOU!

[August1991]

Do you really think people are divided up into absolute terms of "the left" and "the right?" Really?

Well, they are Bubbler. When it comes to an election in the US (and increasingly in Canada), you have to make a choice between two options.

And ironically, this terminology dates from the French revolution.

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IMV, Coulter's book is interesting because it presents a new way of seeing the political divide: the mob and the non-mob. On reflection, I think Coulter is just saying the same thing in different words.

The Left has always been the defenders of the outsiders, the weak, the downtrodden, the non-Establishment, victims. Is it any wonder that the Right would portray Leftists as a mob, the rabble? The well-heeled sit inside the expensive restaurant and refer to the the mob staring through the plate glass windows from the sidewalk.

I once took a course in US history with an English-Canadian professor who, I recall, described the violence of the US revolution and how Loyalists moved north, having lost everything. The professor described the US revolutionaries as a mob intent on overthrowing established order.

Coulter goes at great length to distinguish the French and American revolutions. But whatever one argues, both revolutions violently changed the established order. From the perspective of 18th century Americans loyal to the British King, it was a mob that forced his family to flee north, losing everything.

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Nevertheless, Coulter's point is somehow valid, and fascinating. I now look at public figures and people not only in Left or Right terms but also whether they are part of the mob, or not. I have no problem with charisma, and good politicians must communicate well. But I wonder which politicians try to incite the mob, and which try rather to argue dispassionately their case?

In this 21st century world, with 6 billion people on a single planet, should anyone in the developed West support/incite the mob?

Edited July 2, 2011 by August1991

[August1991]

Addendum

I suspect that Coulter will meet in the US the greatest criticsm with her assertions about race. Race is the great divide in the US.

Coulter asserts that the mob of Democrats (American Liberals) were White supremacists until the early 1960s when, suddenly, they weren't. She has some reason to make this assertion and she amply justifies her argument. (An American once explained to me that northern Whites like Blacks in general but not individually; southern Whites like Blacks individually but not in general.)

I will agree that the mob can choose its objects of approval/hatred in seemingly random fashion.

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For a general audience, her chapter on the French revolution deserves translation. Anyone teaching the French revolution should include it on the reading list. (It's also a good example of a modern polemical historical tract! BTW, she takes the Macaulay viewpoint.)

But her chapter on the history of US civil rights legislation seems intended for Americans. It's a radical review, and her criticism is not based on a Goldwater libertarian viewpoint. Instead, she seems to be a true Macaulay conservative.

[bush_cheney2004]

....I suspect that Coulter will meet in the US the greatest criticsm with her assertions about race. Race is the great divide in the US.

Why would you think this? "Assertions about race" are in keeping with the finest of American literary tradition. Race and the economics of class are at the root of the American "experiment".

Edited July 2, 2011 by bush_cheney2004

[bush_cheney2004]

...I once took a course in US history with an English-Canadian professor who, I recall, described the violence of the US revolution and how Loyalists moved north, having lost everything. The professor described the US revolutionaries as a mob intent on overthrowing established order....

Well...yea...it's not like the French built La Liberté éclairant le monde (Statue of Liberty) for...ummmm...Canada!

[Oleg Bach]

Well...yea...it's not like the French built La Liberté éclairant le monde (Statue of Liberty) for...ummmm...Canada!

The French built a state and sent it to New York as bait to get rid of their own crimminals seeking `Liberty`

[Jack Weber]

Back 20 years ago, when Bill Maher was banging her and made her a celebrity by featuring her as the almost permanent rightwinger on his old Politically Incorrect show, she was pretty damn good looking! The problem is that she is either a vampire or doesn't look in mirrors, to realize that she is too old to be running around in black miniskirts....I find varicose veins a turnoff also.

I heared a serious rumour that Maher was into The Sistas...

That's not a bad gig if you can get it...

Ms. Coulter is the antithesis of that,however...

[Oleg Bach]

I heared a serious rumour that Maher was into The Sistas...

That's not a bad gig if you can get it...

Ms. Coulter is the antithesis of that,however...

Fat females have less estetic problems when it comes to aging and sagging mamalry glands...tall wispy slim females might not fair as well as time takes the time to decompose their beauty. I asked my daughter to have a look at Coulters adam's apple...and requested the offsprings opion on such a protrusion on a female...she said that tall woman can have that like a man...kind of like BIG BIRD,,,,anyway - she is not a man...sure likes to behave as such...She refered to one of our French bureacrats as Pepi La Pweu....repeatedly....kind of like a red neck trying to recycle the same joke at a drunken party within the same five minutes. I like Ann cos everyone hates her.

[WIP]

No, he ultimately gives Demonic a strong recommendation:

I’ll rein myself in at this point, as I could go on at some length regarding this issue, but my article is about Coulter’s book, and as I say, it is for the most part (99.9%) an excellent book, and well worth the read.

Yes, but his cautious language, especially when he talks about one "glaring exception," makes it something less than the ringing endorsement that usually gets handed out by these flaks. And that's a big problem for Ann Coulter, since she is crafting her books for the hard right lunatic audience, not the average reader. I suspect that the writer is well aware that Coulter has written almost the same story in each book, with changing bogeymen. Each time, it's always some liberal scapegoat being accused of doing what the conservative right is doing in real life: suppressing free speech, denying rights, hurling accusations of elitism etc.

But as long as her book as some wealthy, conservative backers, she will still make money off it because conservative sugardaddies buy up thousands of copies of books from Coulter, Palin, Hannity, O'Reilly, the Limbaughs etc., so that they are guaranteed a bestseller sticker. Free copies are given away as bonus gifts to new members who join various conservative organizations. The problem here is that her book sales are dropping with each bombastic offering, and less than enthusiastic reviews will push her further back in the pack of conservative celebrities...and eventually in to total obscurity.

The "Canadian freeper" appears to be an American, which is very appropriate for yet another American wannabe web site like the Canada Free Press.

you identified him as a freeper, and I took this to mean more than being a contributor to CFC, which is for the most part, just a news aggregator site. In its heyday, the Free Republic Forums were the big meeting place for what has mostly turned into tea party activist groups. They referred to themselves as "freepers," and there is a small Canadian sub group that runs Free Dominion Forums. I'm not up on what's going on in these places of late; I try to avoid these lunatics nowadays.