Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Any thing you have to fight for is not worth having - competition does not bring out the best as the high end capitalists suggests...sometimes the best find careerism distasteful and the retract their participation in the race - and the second best takes the lead. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Continued.....YOU do not have the right to scream fire in a crowded theater - If but one person is hurt or killed during the panic that results then that person that gave the bogus command is guilty of murder. The Pastor should be taken to task and his dirty wanna be Christian feet should be held to the fire. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Continued.....YOU do not have the right to scream fire in a crowded theater - If but one person is hurt or killed during the panic that results then that person that gave the bogus command is guilty of murder. The Pastor should be taken to task and his dirty wanna be Christian feet should be held to the fire. Nope...it would not be murder. Has this often invoked example ever really happened? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Nope...it would not be murder. Has this often invoked example ever really happened? No - probably not - so what is your point? How about this - say the Pastor actually "THOUGHT..............there was a fire...and the people did panic and died..and the problem would be in how the Pastor thinks...a perceptual problem - a mental defect. Do we hold him to task for that? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Nope...it would not be murder. Has this often invoked example ever really happened? How about this - It is dark and raining - a driver stops to ask me if the bridge is wash out or not. I know the bridge is gone and I lie and say - The bridge is in tack - the driver drives off and is drowned...Am I a killer - did I murder the man? Similar can be said about WMD...If Bush and Cheney sincerly were misinformed but believed in the existance of these weapons....and people were deployed and they died.....I would say not guilty - In the alternative if Bush and Cheney knew full well and were confident that it was not a reality...and people died through this fraud..then I say guilty... I would say that the Pastor is not guitly because he is just plain dumb - I do not think he has the mental capcity to envison the out come of what he set in motion...He sure did not explain himself well when asked on his thoughts. Cos he really did not have a clue - so is stupidity a crime? Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 How about this - It is dark and raining - a driver stops to ask me if the bridge is wash out or not. I know the bridge is gone and I lie and say - The bridge is in tack - the driver drives off and is drowned...Am I a killer - did I murder the man? Similar can be said about WMD...If Bush and Cheney sincerly were misinformed but believed in the existance of these weapons....and people were deployed and they died.....I would say not guilty - In the alternative if Bush and Cheney knew full well and were confident that it was not a reality...and people died through this fraud..then I say guilty... I would say that the Pastor is not guitly because he is just plain dumb - I do not think he has the mental capcity to envison the out come of what he set in motion...He sure did not explain himself well when asked on his thoughts. Cos he really did not have a clue - so is stupidity a crime? No. But even if I accept the argument that his act was irresponsible, somehow--a possibility, sure--I still think it's genuinely beside the point. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 No. But even if I accept the argument that his act was irresponsible, somehow--a possibility, sure--I still think it's genuinely beside the point. The point has been struck dead on...even though having a limited perceptual scope and lack of vision is NOT illegal - You would imagine that the American authorities would have quietly quashed this idiot before he caused the damage...It may have been that those in authority wanted the pubicity and the deaths of innocent people to maintain the justification for this profitable war on terror. If that be the case then those in charge who could have curbed the idiot are guilty of using a dupe as a henchman to do their dirty work. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 The point has been struck dead on...even though having a limited perceptual scope and lack of vision is NOT illegal - You would imagine that the American authorities would have quietly quashed this idiot before he caused the damage...It may have been that those in authority wanted the pubicity and the deaths of innocent people to maintain the justification for this profitable war on terror. If that be the case then those in charge who could have curbed the idiot are guilty of using a dupe as a henchman to do their dirty work. I really doubt it. I imagine many in authority would wish the Pastor would have kept quiet; but, fortunately, they didn't have the authority to shut him up. That's a good thing. If you look at the HRC's in Canada, you can see the problem. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 That's it -going to burn my old phone book from 1982....don't ask me what that means. Really believed that this issue had been resovled yesterday when it was put forth that - we have freedom of speech but not freedom of conduct. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I really doubt it. I imagine many in authority would wish the Pastor would have kept quiet; but, fortunately, they didn't have the authority to shut him up. That's a good thing. If you look at the HRC's in Canada, you can see the problem. Explain what HRC is please. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Explain what HRC is please. Human Rights Commission. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Human Rights Commission. That quazi judical bit of ca ca ------------are they the orgainzation - that the Supreme Court toss issues to when they don't or can't deal with due to rigid and restrictive policy. What I noticed was that the purpose of the HRC was to recyle matters downwards after they reached the top. There is something offensive about being treated as stupid when you have to use these people...It should all end with the Supreme Court Of Canada - if they are NOT Supreme - let them remove their title. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 As to your point. The HRC - does not stand for anything remotely human - it stands up for the rights of those that do not want to be human. Quote
Tilter Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Explain what HRC is please. Look, the guy is a southern Baptist Minister (or so he says). He is not expected to have any great measure of intelligence or even a very small measure of it, only a congregation who is at least as stupid as he is himself--- looks like that ministry was given the "perfect storm" of idiocy Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Look, the guy is a southern Baptist Minister (or so he says). He is not expected to have any great measure of intelligence or even a very small measure of it, only a congregation who is at least as stupid as he is himself--- looks like that ministry was given the "perfect storm" of idiocy There is no evidence of this that I can find....Pentecostal maybe based on his education, but his Dove Outreach "church" is nondenominational. Methinks a lot of Canadians (and Americans) just jump to their "American South" stereotype file just because it's easier (and lazy) that way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones_%28pastor%29#Pastor_Terry_Jones Edited April 7, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 While overlooking that Canada has a healthy Baptist population...heee haww. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Look, the guy is a southern Baptist Minister (or so he says). He is not expected to have any great measure of intelligence or even a very small measure of it, only a congregation who is at least as stupid as he is himself--- looks like that ministry was given the "perfect storm" of idiocy When has Jones ever said he was a Baptist? His church is nondenominational. I always find it amusing when someone speaking of someone else's lack of intelligence is wrong himself. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 That quazi judical bit of ca ca ------------are they the orgainzation - that the Supreme Court toss issues to when they don't or can't deal with due to rigid and restrictive policy. What I noticed was that the purpose of the HRC was to recyle matters downwards after they reached the top. There is something offensive about being treated as stupid when you have to use these people...It should all end with the Supreme Court Of Canada - if they are NOT Supreme - let them remove their title. I think you're right. We already have judicial bodies in place. Why create new ones with laxer methodology? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Guest American Woman Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Any thing you have to fight for is not worth having - So equal rights for minorities and gays and voting rights for women wasn't/isn't worth having? Sorry, but I have to completely disagree with you. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I think you're right. We already have judicial bodies in place. Why create new ones with laxer methodology? Our judical bodies should be rock hard and effective..they should have balls! Instead of having sheres comprised of due diligence...they spread out the responsiblity over a vast field - so they can pass the ball around - whether that ball is a hot pototato - or a buck - being passed about...Odd that you mention that...It might be because our judical bodies are too poitical...and appointed. It would be nice if they did not vacilate around like a feather on a windy pond. Quote
Saipan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Look, the guy is a southern Baptist Minister (or so he says). He is not expected to have any great measure of intelligence or even a very small measure of it, only a congregation who is at least as stupid as he is himself--- looks like that ministry was given the "perfect storm" of idiocy That's true, but far more humane than any Islamic country. Never mind their extremists who not officially represented by any of those countries.. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Continued.....YOU do not have the right to scream fire in a crowded theater - If but one person is hurt or killed during the panic that results then that person that gave the bogus command is guilty of murder. The Pastor should be taken to task and his dirty wanna be Christian feet should be held to the fire. You don't have the right to slander or libel anyone, either. But you do have the right to burn a book. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 You don't have the right to slander or libel anyone, either. But you do have the right to burn a book. Try burning an American flag on the White House lawn. You will not as so much as have time to flick your bick. I don't know why you continue to so doggedly defend this action - I is and was a very bad idea. Nazis like to burn books and I am sure there were people who also defended that action. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Try burning an American flag on the White House lawn. You will not as so much as have time to flick your bick. I don't know why you continue to so doggedly defend this action - I is and was a very bad idea. Nazis like to burn books and I am sure there were people who also defended that action. There's no law against burning the American flag, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things aren't allowed on the White House lawn. And who's saying it was a good idea to burn the Koran? I'm defending his right to do so. Quote
Wilber Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 There's no law against burning the American flag, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of things aren't allowed on the White House lawn. And who's saying it was a good idea to burn the Koran? I'm defending his right to do so. I don't think anyone here has disputed that right. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
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