August1991 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Michael Ignatieff: When asked if he’s prepared to form a coalition, Mr. Ignatieff replied by saying voters have a choice between the “blue door” (the Conservatives) and the “red door” (the Liberals).“I’m here to form a Liberal government with this incredibly talented caucus. That is the only game that I am, or will be, playing.” When pressed further at the news conference about whether he is prepared to accept the verdict of voters if they elect a minority Conservative government, Mr. Ignatieff returned to his previous answer. “There’s a blue door. There’s a red door. We’re going to form a Liberal government. Is that clear enough for you?” Mr. Ignatieff then abruptly ended the news conference and walked off. National PostWTF? "Clear"? ----- Given how this thread has been hijacked and merged with other threads, I have edited the title to more accurately reflect the discussion. Edited March 26, 2011 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Michael Ignatieff:National Post WTF? "Clear"? Must be living in some sort of "matrix"! Has he said he wants to be known as "Neo"? Edited March 24, 2011 by Pliny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 sounds clear to me... keep screaming coalition though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF/PF Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 When pressed further at the news conference about whether he is prepared to accept the verdict of voters if they elect a minority Conservative government, Mr. Ignatieff returned to his previous answer. What does that question even mean? "Accept the verdict of voters?" Is Ignatieff going to seize power in a military coup and install himself as President-for-Life if voters elect a minority Conservative government? Coalition!Coalition!Coalition!Coalition!Coalition!Coalition!Coalition!Coalition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I'm not sure if this is from the same Ignatieff scrum, I suspect it is. “You go through the Blue Door and you get jets, you get jails, you get corporate tax cuts, and you get miserable knockoffs of the real article,” he said.“But, you go through the Red Door and you get compassion, you get fiscal responsibility, and you get a government relentlessly focused on the real priorities of Canadian families." http://www.ottawasun.com/comment/columnists/mark_bonokoski/2011/03/23/17733386.html Typically, Ignatieff's words require translation. Walk through the blue door, you're in the land of unspeakable evils. Walk through the red door, you're in the land of milk and honey. In essence, he kinda, sorta hinted in a nuanced way he's not endorsing a coalition of the losing parties. But this is Ignatieffspeak, so it's difficult to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF/PF Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Typically, Ignatieff's words require translation. Walk through the blue door, you're in the land of unspeakable evils. To be fair, he only pointed out the Conservatives party's own stated priorities. Edited March 24, 2011 by SF/PF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Omg, I hope he campaigns that way! I want him touring the country explaining to Canadians the two door theory. How entertaining would that be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Michael Ignatieff:National Post WTF? "Clear"? Another prime example of Ignatieff saying stupid things.Not the first time. Thats why Harper says very little But at the same time he is not going for the true blue votes.He knows that they are a waste of time.He is targeting a more narrow group of swing voters.And possibly trying to provoke the conservatives into a race to the biggest blunder. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I really don't see what is not clear, let alone stupid, in what he is saying. You have two choices, thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I really don't see what is not clear, let alone stupid, in what he is saying. You have two choices, thats it. Two choices in a 4 party system? I choice is to vote Conservative..the other choice? To vote for one of the other 3 parties....? *sniff* Smells like coalition ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Two choices in a 4 party system? I choice is to vote Conservative..the other choice? To vote for one of the other 3 parties....? *sniff* Smells like coalition ... LOL... yes, thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't get it. I thought Ignatieff handled the question very easily. He's pumped unlike Harper who lost his cool at his scum and ran away after 2 questions when his handlers lost control of the questioners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 In essence, he kinda, sorta hinted in a nuanced way he's not endorsing a coalition of the losing parties. But this is Ignatieffspeak, so it's difficult to tell. There is no hinting or nuance in Igantieffs position. Ignatieff knows he simply cannot endorse a colaition publicly because a) it's an admission he expects to lost the election even though it is obvious he will and he will form a colaition aat his earliest opportunity because it is the only way he will ever become PM or remain as leader of the Liberals beyond May 3. Note that Layton has openly stated he will back a coalition immediately after an election that returns a Tory minority govt. And of course we know Duceppe would be absolutely delighted to join any coalition for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Must be living in some sort of "matrix"! Has he said he wants to be known as "Neo"? Touche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Two choices in a 4 party system? I choice is to vote Conservative..the other choice? To vote for one of the other 3 parties....? *sniff* Smells like coalition ... There are more then 4 parties. And there are also independents. People have their choice of who to vote for as their MP. Ignatieff has made a huge concession as a Liberal during an election. They usually think their is only one party, one choice and one traditional governing party and that is NOT the Conservatives. I thought you were smarter then to be a chicken nodder to Coalition copouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't get it. I thought Ignatieff handled the question very easily. He's pumped unlike Harper who lost his cool at his scum and ran away after 2 questions when his handlers lost control of the questioners. Can u link me to that? I am unaware of Harper losing his cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I thought you were smarter then to be a chicken nodder to Coalition copouts. I happen to believe that a coalition is a real option that the Liberals with the NDP will effect if they have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I happen to believe that a coalition is a real option that the Liberals with the NDP will effect if they have a chance. Happen to Believe? You'd have to be brain dead not to think it ineviatble if Hrper does not get a majority. Layton and Duceppe are not coy about their support for a Coalition, and Ignatieff is making stange about it only because he has to continue to pretend he can form a govt on his own. And of course the Bloc will be a full partner, there cannot be a Coalition without the Bloc Quebecois. If I was a Quebec voter, and decided that the Tories could not win a majority, I'd be voting Bloc for sure. You'd be crazy to do otherwise. With 50 or 60 seats, the Bloc would be a force in the Commons as a charter member of The Coalition, and everybody in La Belle Province knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Happen to Believe? You'd have to be brain dead not to think it ineviatble if Hrper does not get a majority. Layton and Duceppe are not coy about their support for a Coalition, and Ignatieff is making stange about it only because he has to continue to pretend he can form a govt on his own. And of course the Bloc will be a full partner, there cannot be a Coalition without the Bloc Quebecois. If I was a Quebec voter, and decided that the Tories could not win a majority, I'd be voting Bloc for sure. You'd be crazy to do otherwise. With 50 or 60 seats, the Bloc would be a force in the Commons as a charter member of The Coalition, and everybody in La Belle Province knows it. Your magic 8 ball filling you in on a coalition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Can u link me to that? I am unaware of Harper losing his cool? It was at his 11:30 AM press briefing yesterday in the House of Commons Foyer. Harper has constantly been fighting with the press as he always trying to manage the press questions having one of his handlers decide who gets to ask the questions. Well that did NOT happen yesterday, and needless to say it was quite obvious that he was not pleased. It's election time, and he had better get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Quote of the day??? "Coaliton"..."CO-A-LITION"... "A reckless coaliton!" "Coalition?" "coaliton!" "Coalition,coalition,coalition.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't get it. I thought Ignatieff handled the question very easily. He's pumped unlike Harper who lost his cool at his scum and ran away after 2 questions when his handlers lost control of the questioners. Good reply Harry and very true! Some people only think Harper is smart because he has not said anything stupid. Not saying something stupid is not evidence you are brilliant. Some people here can't get their heads around this. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Good reply Harry and very true! Some people only think Harper is smart because he has not said anything stupid. Not saying something stupid is not evidence you are brilliant. Some people here can't get their heads around this. WWWTT Before anyone else says it "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and confirm it." As I say, Harper ain't my man anymore, but Iggy still needs to learn the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not saying something stupid is not evidence you are brilliant. Chauncey Gardener... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Quote of the day??? "Coaliton"..."CO-A-LITION"... "A reckless coaliton!" "Coalition?" "coaliton!" "Coalition,coalition,coalition.." I see Mr Gunter is in lock step with the PMO... Sad. COALITION!!!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRGGGHHHHH Edited March 24, 2011 by Shakeyhands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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