Shakeyhands Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Dishonesty? But hey , if they are Muslims killing other Muslims you would not have a problem with it now would you? Pathetic. Let's be fair to Mr Canada. He doesn't mind black on black crime either.... Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Scotty Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 I suppose he really wants to hear the old con buzzwords of ... "Immigration Reform"??? Well during that 'year of the gun' Macleans magazines stated virtually all the gun deaths were the result of Jamaican gangs. So maybe if we'd practiced a little immigration reform we wouldn't have had little girls being shot outside Eatons. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 IF you want to help the Black community, then go into the black community and educate yourself and then come back here and tell what YOU have learned. Yes, sir! Okay, where to start. The problems of the Black community in Canada. Hmmm. Boy. The thing is... it's complicated. It's not too complicated to put into a post, but it's complicated enough that most people won't read a post that long. Among the problems is poverty and lack of education among blacks on the East coast - a longstanding problem. In central Canada, where most Blacks are immigrants, the problem lies in their origins, which is mostly from the Caribbean, from countries which themselves have extensive cultural value problems involving crime and family breakdown. Those problems have been transported to Canada, and are most evident in Toronto because of its large Black population. Most Blacks who are of Caribbean origin are raised by single women, and the father is very often not in evidence (the problem exists but to a lesser extent among African origin blacks). These are not cultures which generally have in the past placed a very high importance on education. The dropout rate among Blacks, especially Black males, is very high. This is partly because of a lack of involvement/support from families, and partly due to the lack of importance of education among Black hip-hop/gangsta culture which the majority of young Blacks follow. That same culture encourages a tough-guy mentality which often causes violence over seemingly minuscule provocations. It's not unusual for a man accidentally brushing another man's shoulder in a club to lead to violence, up to and including murder. There's also a near universal view among young Black men, partly as a result of that gangsta/hip hop culture, of themselves as outsiders, and being the victims of a racist white society. This cause a significant number of them to not really even try to get ahead in what we might call the legally recognizable means, ie, education getting a job, getting promoted, etc. That's just the bare bones summary. And it's not something you can solve by increasing welfare payments and more public housing. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 where did you come up with 8%? ...government stats puts it at about 2%... crime isn't caused by race, it's roots are economic/poverty... He probably got it from the US, as that sounds like about their percentage of the population there. And you're partially true but not entirely. Culture and values play a big part, too. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 citation request. , by the by... a quick googly shows Toronto's 2008 homicide rate was, @ 1.6 per 100,000 population, below the Canadian national average of 1.8 per 100,000 population. By the strictest application of the same degree of substantiation you've provided, I hereby leverage your unfounded statistics and proclaim that Toronto's black population can't shoot straight... uhhh... relative to the rest of Canada! Are you suggesting the native gangs in western Canada and the East Indian and Asian gangs in BC are better shots than the Jamaican gangs in Toronto? Maybe if the latter would stop turning their glocks sideways before shooting the damn things... Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Well, it was always nice to see and hear Oscar Peterson each February...I'm sure they will dig him up again for this year's CBC story. There is a statue of him on the street I go by every day, sitting at his piano, and there's a speaker playing his music Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) He probably got it from the US, as that sounds like about their percentage of the population there. And you're partially true but not entirely. Culture and values play a big part, too. Then that would be wrong....the U.S. "Black" population is about 12.5% or 38 million, more than the entire population of Canada. Edited February 25, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BubberMiley Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 But what percentage is in jail for murder? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
August1991 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Blacks are 8% of the total population but account for 94% of all murders, which are black on black.What are we doing about this situation? Why are Whites stealing money from people? Why do they get such light sentences?Former Montreal financial adviser Earl Jones was sentenced to 11 years in prison on Monday, after pleading guilty to two fraud charges related to his $50-million Ponzi scheme. CBCThe Bloc Québécois is trying to put the tough-on-crime Conservatives on the defensive over last week’s early release of fraudster Vincent Lacroix, saying it’s time to change Canada’s parole law to prevent more offenders from benefiting from such treatment. G&M Quote
GostHacked Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Why are Whites stealing money from people? Why do they get such light sentences? CBC G&M I've never understood the light sentences for huge white collar crime. Through many ponzi schemes like Madoff used to gain his fortunes, his term is much shorter than someone who commits murder. Sure it;'s just money that was stolen, but the amount of lives ruined because of that theft is far worse (in my view) than someone who kills one person. Indeed lock murderers up for a long time, but punishment for this type of crime needs to be revisited and the terms increased. If we have a just justice system we'd also not even run into this issue. But when you can afford the best lawyers, you can get away with almost anything. Quote
BC_chick Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 (edited) I've never understood the light sentences for huge white collar crime. Through many ponzi schemes like Madoff used to gain his fortunes, his term is much shorter than someone who commits murder. Sure it;'s just money that was stolen, but the amount of lives ruined because of that theft is far worse (in my view) than someone who kills one person. Indeed lock murderers up for a long time, but punishment for this type of crime needs to be revisited and the terms increased. If we have a just justice system we'd also not even run into this issue. But when you can afford the best lawyers, you can get away with almost anything. Yep, the conservative "tough on crime" mantra always discounts white-collar crime it seems. Edited April 4, 2011 by BC_chick Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Scotty Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 Yep, the conservative "tough on crime" mantra always discounts white-collar crime it seems. Not in the states. I was reading on the weekend about some guy who mislabeled the salmon his facility produced and he got a year in prison! Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Oleg Bach Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 Because they are so un-civilized and lack the education provided by a father that they also through media assume that RESPECT - is fear and not mutual co-operation and the transphere of power back and forth..plus seeing that they are so isolated from mainstream life (not all of them) that they live in a sub-culture of their own design - or maybe- designed by zionist producers and financiers of the hip hop bull shit...bling bling - pop you with a couple of caps in your ass N******er. It also could be possible that they are simply inbred like the Jews and are inferiour? Or maybe......Darwin and the rest of the evolutionists actually believe they are monkey men? Hell _ I don't know - I know some very sweet and sophisticated blacks that are great...it could be that we have stuck all the stupid ones in ghettos, (projects).............OR - look at the failed Arican states...where the whites took only the best human live stock for slaves and left the rest to hack each other up? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 In all seriousness and without prejudice - look at our media...almost every last bit of eposodic television and movie have some damned guy standing there with a gun to someone elses head - Some of us are bright enough to ignore this silly poorly written sensationalism - and some of us are not that smart. We understand that some of the most un-talented writers are the most successful...black might tend to relate to the rich as heros - and seeing something in media means that it is manna sent by the gods....When you need to constantly portray some fanceful gun culture in just about all movies - It's time to fire all these f**king weasils that can NOT come up with an original plot. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 Can't wait for BC to show up..He's black and he is a careerist..the noble kind..and he is highly intelligent..he will have your answer if you can get him to be serious with this question. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 Don't go near this one....BC - It is as simple as any other route to a solution..economic..If your needs are met - You really have no need for a gun. Quote
charter.rights Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Yep, the conservative "tough on crime" mantra always discounts white-collar crime it seems. It also misses Harper and the PMO. They apparently knew (or in legal jargon, should have known) that Carson was a bad boy. Carson says he showed the PMO and Harper's former Chief of Staff his criminal record. Even though Harper now disavows any knowledge of Carson having a really long criminal history, it when his CofS was told, he would have known at the time. NOt only has Harper been bedding down with the Bloc and the NDP but not he is bunk buddies with a known ciminal who was using his public position to steal money from the government and filter it through his call-girl girlfriend. Shame. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
kimmy Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Perhaps they believed he had been rehabilitated. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Perhaps they believed he had been rehabilitated. -k BEHIND every great fortune or concentration of human power is a great crime. Just about everybody is a crimminal. As some one said there are only the convicted and yet to be convicted. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Such a hot button topic you would assume that the so called racist conservatives that are Mapleleafweb...would be all over this one - apparently hating people because of the colour of their skin is not at all appealing to the modern conservative as liberals would want to believe - No one here wants to get involved in this thread. I don't blame them - conservatives know that all problems are based in economics - Liberals are cheap they figure they can give the black gang banger a HUG (which costs nothing) and all will be well. Makes you wonder who is really the more cheap - the liberal left or the conservative right? I suppose that liberals just want to hire more social workers...where as a conservative just wants to contain the problem by building more jails? The conservative mind looks for ways of making money by perhaps privatizing the jails --------where as the liberal mind...is more dishonest and embraces you as they stick their hand in your back pocket and steal your wallet. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Secularization is to blame. Blacks that have a religion do not murder - whites for the most part still have religious values and even though they might not be church goers - seem to kill less...Our liberalistic ideals pushed on poor blacks have not served them well. BUT - as far as the numbers are concerned - whites on mass murder a thousand times more - because we do it legally via war and other abuses of humanity...we are not classed as killers....If the poor project blacks were the status quo - they could get a medal every time they killed an enemy - and the dead enemy would get a ride down the HIGHWAY OF HEROS. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Looks like I am writing an editoral here, solo! The person with the least power and resourses gets to play the role of crimminal. The more powerful counter part, with more resourses gets to play the role of authoritarian good guy. Much like the genetic lineage of anglo bankers and the Hell's Angels motor cycle gangs - they come from the same stock - but one faction lost the fued and never recovered...Smashing blacks down or any other group - takes a century or two to regain it's footing - In the mean time there is desperation and infighting within the loser group - Blacks kill each other because they just can't seem to get close enough to whitey to strangle him...so any body handy will do. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 What else can it be? Let me reach into my imaginative bag of tricks. Could it be that black is good and white is bad? Or that good is white and black is bad? Maybe when a black person sees another black person, they feel inferiour and believe that the white courts will go easy on them if they murder blacks? Kind of like - a black guy is a white guy for a split second when he pulls the trigger? Hell - I really don't know why someone bothered starting this thread unless it was to continue to persecute black people and piss them off more - making them more frantic and angry - thus more prone to violence? Maybe it is actually white people pulling the black trigger finger? Why do white courts release blacks caught with guns? Why to kill other blacks of course! Quote
treehugger Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 It also misses Harper and the PMO. They apparently knew (or in legal jargon, should have known) that Carson was a bad boy. Carson says he showed the PMO and Harper's former Chief of Staff his criminal record. Even though Harper now disavows any knowledge of Carson having a really long criminal history, it when his CofS was told, he would have known at the time. NOt only has Harper been bedding down with the Bloc and the NDP but not he is bunk buddies with a known ciminal who was using his public position to steal money from the government and filter it through his call-girl girlfriend. Shame. That seems like a GREAT way to after a job. Show the boss your criminal lists. For sure you'll be hired. GIMME A BREAK! Quote
Shwa Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 That seems like a GREAT way to after a job. Show the boss your criminal lists. For sure you'll be hired. GIMME A BREAK! You don't think that PMO staffers, ministerial aids, etc., require an enhanced security check by the RCMP? Quote
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