pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Complete nonsense. I'd contend that giving notice to a group of people who's whereabouts are unknown, is both impossible, and impractical. But that's for lawyers to decide if necessary. How ironic is it that a group of people fleeing a state in order to stop a democratic process, are now complaining about said democratic process! The irony metre is off the charts, and now utterly destroyed! Actually it will be for the courts to decide. In addition to that the recall procedure will also decide the fate of a number of Wisconsin senators. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Actually it will be for the courts to decide. In addition to that the recall procedure will also decide the fate of a number of Wisconsin senators. Yup...already said that many posts ago. That's how democracy works in the American "banana republic". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Neil Young will remember. He went to Kelvin High School here in Winnipeg. Neil Young lives in La Honda, California, US of A. He voted with his feet. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Neil Young lives in La Honda, California, US of A. He voted with his feet. I would suspect he is a Democrat. Is Tom Delay in one of those rich guys prisons down in the USA? How is Duke Cunningham doing these days. These family values folks sure lack scruples. Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Actually it will be for the courts to decide. What are the details of the lawsuit? Quote
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 What are the details of the lawsuit? I posted that information a day or two ago. Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 I posted that information a day or two ago. Can you post a link? I'd like to read the brief. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 I would suspect he is a Democrat. No, I think he is still a Canadian, but we don't hold that against him. Yet he has made a living by being one of the biggest American wannabes of all time. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Looks like when you get outside of Madison, people's opinions are very different. Walker enjoys strong support. http://clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist/8178/2289740?wpid=1904 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Looks like when you get outside of Madison, people's opinions are very different. Walker enjoys strong support. http://clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist/8178/2289740?wpid=1904 Walker will be fine...a judge has already ruled against any temporary injunction against the law. Hearings will be forthcoming. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Pliny Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 If we are going to abolish all laws of competition for corporations... lets abolish all laws for workers. Let the Indian and Chinese worker who makes 400 bucks a month, come to the US, Canada, Germany. Lets open the flood gates for people just like we opened the flood gates for corporations on the world stage. (if we are going to leave it to capitalism, let the workers have the same capitalistic opportunities to move, this way the system works fairly - investment in poor areas and slums, will make those who get exploited there sell their services on the broader market. You educate the Chinese worker, suddenly he can get himself a job in Geneva, and you need to train a new one. Fair is fair.) It's nice wanting the freedom to do business anywhere you want, but not allowing your worker the same freedom only serves one side of the equation. Do you guys know that even a Chinese worker needs papers to work in Beijing. That is right, even in their own country, rural migrants are not allowed to seek jobs in cities without permits. The control on the right side of the equation does not match the control on the left. This is why corporations are having the bonanza. They have the $$ to bribe favourable trade laws for themselves. The migrant worker does not. So if you guys want to bust the regulations on one side, bust them on the other. Lets do away with borders. Why are corps getting all the benefits of globalism while we get stuck with the loans and paying a greater share for services? Essentially, you are correct. But corporations are heavily regulated which is part of the reason they move. there isn't too much regulation regarding workers except to treat them fairly and not exploit them. How can it be beneficial for a Chinese person to move to Geneva and take a job there? Firstly, he isn't getting ahead economically. If he is making $4000/mo in Geneva isntead of $400/mo in China his living expenses are probably ten times higher. In the US you can improve your position by moving to any part of the country you choose, if you wish to choose a job as the most important criteria in your life. While I agree the worker should be able to move or live wherever he wants he oftne doens't want to live in a different country or culture. Besides, China has very few rich people, the gap is huge. It is a classless society except for those ensuring it remains classless. Sort of like Cuba where only the Castro family and Fidel's favourites can be rich. There always has been and always will be haves and have-nots. We just have to be sure we don't destroy one in favour of the other. governemnt tends to just work them both against each other.So it seems your problem is with the rich and there shouldn't be any. Well, that is the reason you will never be rich, you wouldn't want to wind up hating yourself. There is no percentage in that. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
GostHacked Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Complete nonsense. I'd contend that giving notice to a group of people who's whereabouts are unknown, is both impossible, and impractical. But that's for lawyers to decide if necessary. How ironic is it that a group of people fleeing a state in order to stop a democratic process, are now complaining about said democratic process! The irony metre is off the charts, and now utterly destroyed! The law I was refering to is the one the man quoted in the video that was posted. Try again. Quote
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Looks like when you get outside of Madison, people's opinions are very different. Walker enjoys strong support. http://clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist/8178/2289740?wpid=1904 ROFL Quote
ironstone Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 The Republicans dislike ANYTHING that allows the people to "dictate" to employers. Profits are all they care about, and they don't care who gets hurt in the hunt for those profits. Look at all the things the GOP proposed budget cuts back on: Anything that helps the little guy. Aren't unions all about profits and greed too? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Aren't unions all about profits and greed too? No. The unions are a countervailing balance to the evils of unfettered capitalism and the inequities that brings about. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) No. The unions are a countervailing balance to the evils of unfettered capitalism and the inequities that brings about. Yea...that's why Jimmy Hoffa and organized crime were made for each other. They just wanted to help people. LOL! Edited March 12, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Yea...that's why Jimmy Hoffa and organized crime were made for each other. They just wanted to help people. LOL! The Hoffa family currently has a member of the family actively involved in helping working folks in their battle against greedy capitalists. I notice there are a fair number of Republican criminals like Tom Delay residing in crowbar hotel. Edited March 12, 2011 by pinko Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 The Hoffa family currently has a member of the family actively involved in helping working folks in their battle against greedy capitalists. I notice there are a fair number of Republican criminals like Tom Delay residing in crowbar hotel. Big frickin' deal...."working folks" are better off without threats from union goons and their "help". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Big frickin' deal...."working folks" are better off without threats from union goons and their "help". Maybe in that fantasyland you occupy. Of course you should know what you preach is a myth. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Maybe in that fantasyland you occupy. Of course you should know what you preach is a myth. Sure it's a myth...that's why you spend so much time worrying about unions in another country. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Sure it's a myth...that's why you spend so much time worrying about unions in another country. In Canada we have a vibrant trade union movement and a more mature outlook on unions than the one you portray. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 In Canada we have a vibrant trade union movement and a more mature outlook on unions than the one you portray. Yea...I know...the union corruption in Canada is very mature. Thank you for confirming what we already know. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BubberMiley Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Big frickin' deal...."working folks" are better off without threats from union goons and their "help". How would you know? You don't "work"; you post on the internet. But all the data indicates you're wrong. Unionized workers always make more on average than non-union. In fact, that's the GOP argument why they should be abolished--because of their success. Try to keep up. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
pinko Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Yea...I know...the union corruption in Canada is very mature. Thank you for confirming what we already know. You don't know much. The labour movement here in Canada will be collaborating with the union movement in Wisconsin and elsewhere. Edited March 12, 2011 by pinko Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 You don't know much. The labour movement here in Canada will be collaborating with the union movement in Wisconsin and elsewhere. This thread is not about unions or labor movement in Canada. But either way, both are corrupt, have been corrupt, and will always be corrupt (as much as any "capitalist"). Canada has one of the most corrupt organized labor systems in the world! No wonder you are so damn worried about what is happening in another country. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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