Union Busting in Wisconsin

[Signals.Cpl]

Hmmmm...nary a peep about the results of Wisconsin's recall election? Seems that Governor Scott Walker won by a larger margin than the first time, mostly because many citizens resented the use of a recall petition for a policy issue, including some union members.

Thanks for playing .....

Best thing was all those people crying in to the camera about the death of democracy in the US...right after people democratically reelected the Governor. Its democracy if you vote for us its tyranny if you vote for the other guy.

[bush_cheney2004]

Best thing was all those people crying in to the camera about the death of democracy in the US...right after people democratically reelected the Governor. Its democracy if you vote for us its tyranny if you vote for the other guy.

Very true...at the winning campaign gathering, one exuberant Walker supporter repeated a Demrocrat protest chant, "That's what democracy looks like!!"

[jbg]

Best thing was all those people crying in to the camera about the death of democracy in the US...right after people democratically reelected the Governor. Its democracy if you vote for us its tyranny if you vote for the other guy.

The Democrats' choice of tactics was disastrous. The G.O.P. now has an excellent organization in place for November. This may turn a deep blue state pink or red.

[bush_cheney2004]

The Democrats made multiple blunders starting with the illegal absence of legislators. They ran Barrett again (mistake), they fought amongst themselves with a party primary (mistake), they spent millions on a divisive recall message (mistake), they couldn't get Obama's support (mistake), then they lost the recall election in cities and precincts they were suppose to control.

So where are all the scab hating, union loving, RTW loathing supporters who helped to push this topic to 140 pages last year? Where did they all go?

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/07/video-wisconsin-protesters-coping-with-recall-results-in-their-own-special-way/

[Fletch 27]

That Video was the best! When you lose democratically, Blame democracy! The Unions are waking up to a whole new world.. Where they cant mess with he Majority!

The Democrats made multiple blunders starting with the illegal absence of legislators. They ran Barrett again (mistake), they fought amongst themselves with a party primary (mistake), they spent millions on a divisive recall message (mistake), they couldn't get Obama's support (mistake), then they lost the recall election in cities and precincts they were suppose to control.

So where are all the scab hating, union loving, RTW loathing supporters who helped to push this topic to 140 pages last year? Where did they all go?

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/07/video-wisconsin-protesters-coping-with-recall-results-in-their-own-special-way/

[bleeding heart]

Or maybe, the world of politics remains exactly what it is, and big money rules?

“Dateline NBC” once offered a group of children a breakfast choice: a banana or a rock with a Scooby-Doo sticker on it. Almost all of them chose the rock. Last Tuesday, Wisconsin chose the rock.

Everyone’s looking for the lesson of the failed recall effort. The lesson is that marketing beats brains, perception beats reality, Democrats are useless corporate shills, and people are just too damn stupid to live.

Citizens United allowed Scott Walker to raise some $40 million to manipulate the voting public. For over a year, Walker and the PACs supporting him inundated print, radio, TV, and online media. Walker outspent Barrett more than 7 to 1. The Koch brothers alone spent twice what Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett spent in total. The sad kind of national support Democrats could muster was a tweet from Barack Obama which read: “It’s Election Day in Wisconsin tomorrow, and I’m standing by Tom Barrett. He’d make an outstanding governor. -bo” Hours earlier, the President was in Minnesota speaking at the union-busting Honeywell corporation (this is the same company that recently detained labor journalist Mike Elk because he had the temerity to practice journalism). The DNC barely showed up. And they started framing the loss as meaningless before the polls even opened.

Sure, Bill Clinton came to Milwaukee — a few days before saying the Bush tax breaks on the wealthy should remain in perpetuity. And Barrett himself was a rotten banana, whose only resonant message was that he wasn’t a rock. Before the primary, he brought in Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel for a fundraiser, which unions protested, because Rahm’s a corporate flunky. Under his leadership, Chicago’s seen union-busting “reform,” a Democratic fundraising hotel heiress appointed to (privatize) the school board, and that same hotel turning heat lamps on striking workers during a sweltering summer. And never forget Clinton & Emmanuel are the “liberals” who brought you NAFTA — the worst attack on the middle class since WWII.

So that’s the choice. Rotten bananas or rocks covered with stickers. Neither one is very good. But that’s how populist movements are killed by the electoral process.

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The most egregious adverts of this truncated cycle were the NRA’s “Don’t let Barrett recall your gun rights,” the Willy Horton-esque “Crime” — wherein Barrett is blamed for the death of a toddler — put out by the Walker campaign, and also their “Jobs” spot. The first two are horrific on their face, but the “Jobs” ad represents a particularly pernicious aspect of our perverted democracy. Under Walker, Wisconsin has had the worst job record of any state in the nation. But Walker’s advert touts cooked, unverified numbers produced — ignoring the Department of Labor system used by every other state — just in time for the election.

The “Jobs” ad demonstrates the media’s complicity in misinforming the public in exchange for cash (many times they’re awful enough to do it for free). It’s like if McDonald’s devised a new, and unreliable, way to calculate that Big Macs only contain 100 calories. Media in Wisconsin and elsewhere, however, couldn’t take the cash to spread McDonald’s hypothetical lies. It’s illegal to outright lie when selling a product — sure, not every late night infomercial is totally honest, but you can’t use demonstrable untruths in an advert. In politics, for some reason, it’s a different story — and for the media, a very profitable one.

Wisconsin is a schizophrenic place — birthplace to the abolitionist Republican Party, liberal champion “Fighting” Bob La Follette, and The Progressive magazine. But it was also home to Joe McCarthy and his Red Scare, the John Birch Society — cofounded by Fred Koch — is headquartered there, and the state’s been very much a test tube in the last few years for the far-right agenda pushed by Koch (and other rich asshole) money in the form of ALEC, Americans for Prosperity (AFP), and extensive focus by the Republican Governors Association. Incidentally, the Democratic Governors Association was out to lunch on this recall, too.

http://buffalobeast.com/this-just-in-people-too-stupid-to-live/

[Fletch 27]

I think its more like, "How do you find a waste of money? Simple, find a union". Its happening the world over my friendo... The wantant waste is evidant.. Unions are the going the way of the dodo bird. This will only help to spread the wealth from the poorest to the riches.. FINALLY,, justice to mankind in the world.

Im very happy for Wisconsin for voting democratically and allowing the populace to give the man a LARGER vote.

Or maybe, the world of politics remains exactly what it is, and big money rules?

http://buffalobeast.com/this-just-in-people-too-stupid-to-live/

[bleeding heart]

This will only help to spread the wealth from the poorest to the richest.. FINALLY,, justice to mankind in the world.

Interesting vision, where "justice for mankind in the world" is symbolized by a recall vote in Wisconsin.

And yes, you're certainly right in your hateful, elitist worldview, that the poor are sucking up way too much wealth, and the rich don't have enough of it.

Edited June 12, 2012 by bleeding heart

[Fletch 27]

No, I'm certain that the unions are keeping poor, the poor. The unions are just keeping poor ... Un-educated... Tjey like it that way... Mindless dummies feeding their coffers full... Solient green... Obey your master

Interesting vision, where "justice for mankind in the world" is symbolized by a recall vote in Wisconsin.

And yes, you're certainly right in your hateful, elitist worldview, that the poor are sucking up way too much wealth, and the rich don't have enough of it.

[bleeding heart]

No, I'm certain that the unions are keeping poor, the poor. The unions are just keeping poor ... Un-educated... Tjey like it that way... Mindless dummies feeding their coffers full... Solient green... Obey your master

And yet, interestingly, you just told me that "justice for mankind in the world" will be achieved when wealth is spread from the poor to the rich.

Make up your mind.

[Fletch 27]

Can you not read? YES!! That will happen when unions are abolished... VERY simple... To spread the wealth, abolish the unions... They keep the stupid "stupid" and chained to the low end jobs... They should be allowed to prosper without the chains of a. Money sucking, brain sucking, drive sucking union. Unions were designed to chain the weak... SET THEM FREE!!!!!!!!! Unions are the 21st century version of Slavery! Sheer SLAVERY chained to a common wage with no room to blossom! Look at WWWOOT or what's his name....spouting the same drivel day in and day out.... Knock him off of his point and he might as well be playing with a bowl of jello.... No free thought! Soilent green... Soilent green..

And yet, interestingly, you just told me that "justice for mankind in the world" will be achieved when wealth is spread from the poor to the rich.

Make up your mind.

Edited June 14, 2012 by Fletch 27

[Pliny]

So where are all the scab hating, union loving, RTW loathing supporters who helped to push this topic to 140 pages last year? Where did they all go?

I too, came to gloat.

[waldo]

I too, came to gloat.

Pliny's back!!! Pliny... the Health, Science and Technology forum has really been missing your insightful sciency posts.

in line with all the union haters, does your want to gloat in this thread include where outspending one's opponent 8:1 is a bow to U.S. democracy? Where 70% of that money is said to have come from outside Wisconsin, from the likes of the Koch Brothers. Fit's right in with their "Citizens United"... the best government money can buy! But that's your kind of democracy, right Pliny? Given the Wisconsin Democrats won back control of the Wisconsin Senate, is your gloat somewhat tempered... no drool?

[Jack Weber]

Can you not read? YES!! That will happen when unions are abolished... VERY simple... To spread the wealth, abolish the unions... They keep the stupid "stupid" and chained to the low end jobs... They should be allowed to prosper without the chains of a. Money sucking, brain sucking, drive sucking union. Unions were designed to chain the weak... SET THEM FREE!!!!!!!!! Unions are the 21st century version of Slavery! Sheer SLAVERY chained to a common wage with no room to blossom! Look at WWWOOT or what's his name....spouting the same drivel day in and day out.... Knock him off of his point and he might as well be playing with a bowl of jello.... No free thought! Soilent green... Soilent green..

'Cause the only "freedom" comes from an unfettering of Capitalism,right???

'Cause the people behind "Right to Work" are truly interested in the "freedom of the individual worker",right?

You sound like an NAM spokesman suffering from Tourettes Syndrome...

[Fletch 27]

If your are retarded and dumb.... Can't spell your name.... Do you have a right to work? No, you have a right to go right back to school and try harder..

'Cause the only "freedom" comes from an unfettering of Capitalism,right???

'Cause the people behind "Right to Work" are truly interested in the "freedom of the individual worker",right?

You sound like an NAM spokesman suffering from Tourettes Syndrome...

[Jack Weber]

If your are retarded and dumb.... Can't spell your name.... Do you have a right to work? No, you have a right to go right back to school and try harder..

You have no idea what I'm talking about,do you???

[dre]

No, I mean the right to be blood sucking parasites.