Mr.Canada Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialists are trying to turn us all into slaves for another person. That is one of the end goals of socialism. Socialists wish to take money from my pocket in order to give it to someone else who has none and has done nothing to earn it. In turn socialists wish to force me to work for the common good of society, as they see it, for free or face jail time or some other sort of punishment. With ever rising taxes it appears they are winning in this country. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
pinko Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialists are trying to turn us all into slaves for another person. That is one of the end goals of socialism. Socialists wish to take money from my pocket in order to give it to someone else who has none and has done nothing to earn it. In turn socialists wish to force me to work for the common good of society, as they see it, for free or face jail time or some other sort of punishment. With ever rising taxes it appears they are winning in this country. Maybe you should move. Quote
Shwa Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Maybe you should move. He won't though. He likes the free health care. Quote
CANADIEN Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialists are trying to turn us all into slaves for another person. ... the same way they cause bodily fluids to fly high and far enough at the Gay parade that you can capture them on camera, right? Quote
pinko Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 ... the same way they cause bodily fluids to fly high and far enough at the Gay parade that you can capture them on camera, right? Homophobic are you Quote
Yukon Jack Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialism is absolutely the very best form of human life. Until its proponents run out of somebody else's money. But that surely isn't the reason that it failed miserably everywhere it was tried. Quote
CANADIEN Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Homophobic are you I must be.... I am waiting with sheer anticipation at Mr. Canada's long-announced moive on flying fluids at the Gay Parade. Quote
pinko Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 I must be.... I am waiting with sheer anticipation at Mr. Canada's long-announced moive on flying fluids at the Gay Parade. I hadn't realized fluids fly at Gay Parades. Having said that I admit I have never attended a gay parade. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialism is absolutely the very best form of human life. Until its proponents run out of somebody else's money. But that surely isn't the reason that it failed miserably everywhere it was tried. Socialism failed everywhere it was tried? That's news. Seems to me most industrial nations, including the United States, incorporate elements of either or both the Bismarckian (late 1800s Germany) and Beveridgean (mid 20th century England) social systems. Quote
Yukon Jack Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialism failed everywhere it was tried? That's news. Seems to me most industrial nations, including the United States, incorporate elements of either or both the Bismarckian (late 1800s Germany) and Beveridgean (mid 20th century England) social systems. News? Hardly! It failed in the Soviet Union. It failed in all the former Socialist (i.e. Iron Curtain) countries. It has miserably failed in every country where it was tried in Africa and to a lesser degree in South America. Other than Communism and Islam no system is entirely bad. So, some elements of Socialism maybe good. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 News? Hardly! It failed in the Soviet Union. It failed in all the former Socialist (i.e. Iron Curtain) countries. It has miserably failed in every country where it was tried in Africa and to a lesser degree in South America. Other than Communism and Islam no system is entirely bad. So, some elements of Socialism maybe good. Not only is there a difference between communism and socialism, but communism cannot operate in a bubble (see US interference in South America [or the Zapatistas in Mexico] and the entire history of African oppression) nor be forced upon people from the top down. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 1 Corinthians 16:2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Mr.Canada Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Posted February 14, 2011 He won't though. He likes the free health care. Shwa. I've found myself agreeing with a lot lately but none the less. Healthcare isn't free in this country. Hospitals cost money to run and Healthcare professionals are paid wages. They don't operate or work for free. People, like me, who pay taxes every year actually pay these wages. So all you socialists sitting on welfare should be grateful that I am here to ensure you continue to receive the benefit which people like me provide you with. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
cybercoma Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 One of the most ridiculous myths out there is that people on welfare are lazy free-loaders. We have restrictions on who can collect and how much they get. It's not pleasant being on welfare and you certainly don't get enough money to make it worthwhile to stay on it. The majority of people collecting social assistance are the elderly and those with disabilities and other particular needs. Moreover, I think some of you may confuse EI with welfare. Even the former has particular requirements in order to collect, but it is an insurance scheme. You pay into it so that you have money to live on as you transition between jobs. So, your implication that those on welfare are lazy free-loaders living off other people's money is unfounded. The systems are in place to protect everyone. If unfortunate circumstances find you in a position to require it, you'll be glad that it's there. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialist - communists and typical Trotskites are real stupid dupes...Ran into some big brained aging communist woman - who still insists that the means of production - the factories should be own by the workers..........talk about institutionalized idocy...so behind the times - as much behind the times as Jack Layton - has no one explained to these out of date fools that there are no factories to be owned by workers left in Canada..that all the manufacturing ironically has been sold to communists by capitalist opportunists....You would think that they would be up with the times? Socialism is evil because it wants to make everyone equal - I really don't like to be treated the same as a brain damaged crack head or some poorly bred jerk who only knows hockey beer and sex. Quote
Topaz Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Socialists are trying to turn us all into slaves for another person. That is one of the end goals of socialism. Socialists wish to take money from my pocket in order to give it to someone else who has none and has done nothing to earn it. In turn socialists wish to force me to work for the common good of society, as they see it, for free or face jail time or some other sort of punishment. With ever rising taxes it appears they are winning in this country. The world is in a different society. Corporations are running the world and going to countries were cheap labour makes the shareholders and the company richer! That's leaves most the middle-income earners, without the jobs and the security they EARNED and now they are losing their homes, families, depression is high, crime is climbing in areas were it was very low. Government polices are helping the disappearance of the middle-income earners. Jobs now in Canada are becoming part timers because the advantage to the business not the pay benefits. If you think YOU will never lose your job, think again, there are Canadians out there that have and in today's society, ANYONE can and will. So Mr. Canada, renamed yourself, Mr. anti-socialist, keep your money and go watch Mr. Scrooge again. You have no compassion for your fellow man. Quote
wyly Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 socialism will grow in small increments and it will do so from the bottom up, as cybercoma has pointed out it cannot be forced from the top down... conservative free-marketer's are in self-delusional denial they believe the world can sustain unlimited growth which is absurd, a steadily increasing population and finite resources will bring an end to the myth of the perpetual growth... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
The_Squid Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 First off, anyone that thinks socialism is exactly the same as communism is being disengenuous or is ignorant. We have many socialist principles in our liberal democracy now... universal healthcare, crown corporations, etc, etc. Not sure how those can be classified as "evil"... Quote
Shwa Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Healthcare isn't free in this country. Hospitals cost money to run and Healthcare professionals are paid wages. They don't operate or work for free. People, like me, who pay taxes every year actually pay these wages. So all you socialists sitting on welfare should be grateful that I am here to ensure you continue to receive the benefit which people like me provide you with. Of course it's not "free," but you have alluded to it in your OP: Socialists wish to take money from my pocket in order to give it to someone else who has none and has done nothing to earn it. In turn socialists wish to force me to work for the common good of society, as they see it, for free or face jail time or some other sort of punishment. The section I have struck merely makes your notion specific, but does not excuse the general, especially when you say 'socialism.' One can make a very good argument that universal healthcare is a product of socialism as are many facets of our big welfare state. Quote
WIP Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 The world is in a different society. Corporations are running the world and going to countries were cheap labour makes the shareholders and the company richer! That's leaves most the middle-income earners, without the jobs and the security they EARNED and now they are losing their homes, families, depression is high, crime is climbing in areas were it was very low. Government polices are helping the disappearance of the middle-income earners. Jobs now in Canada are becoming part timers because the advantage to the business not the pay benefits. If you think YOU will never lose your job, think again, there are Canadians out there that have and in today's society, ANYONE can and will. So Mr. Canada, renamed yourself, Mr. anti-socialist, keep your money and go watch Mr. Scrooge again. You have no compassion for your fellow man. And isn't this the same guy who's often pushing religious crap on other threads? How does the Christian Right square that circle of New Testament ethics...especially the outright socialism among the disciples described in the Book of Acts...with their worship of greed and accumulated wealth? And, like you said, they're running the world now. Here we are living in a time when artificial persons (corporations) have taken on all of the rights of real living persons, plus immortality, the ability to swallow up smaller corporations to get larger, and move our jobs out of the country, while they import the same product back into Canada and the U.S., and self-deluded fools who call themselves conservatives or libertarians want to throw the doors open further and totally dismantle all government oversight of corporate power, along with social programs! The rise of corporate power has coincided with the decline in income of 98% of the population; yet it seems like there are more than 2% out there who want to do even more for our corporate masters at our expense! Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 and move our jobs out of the country, while they import the same product back into Canada and the U.S., "Our" jobs? Gee, did you feel this way when American jobs were exported to Canada? Nope. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CANADIEN Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 I hadn't realized fluids fly at Gay Parades. Having said that I admit I have never attended a gay parade. Me neither, but hey Mr. Canada claims this happens and last year he was planning to capture it on film. Still waiting... Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 News? Hardly! It failed in the Soviet Union. It failed in all the former Socialist (i.e. Iron Curtain) countries. It has miserably failed in every country where it was tried in Africa and to a lesser degree in South America. Other than Communism and Islam no system is entirely bad. So, some elements of Socialism maybe good. Erm.. The Soviet Union was Lenninist/Stalinist interpretation of Marxism... That's not really Socialist... Kinda like the German Democratic Republic...It's all semantics... And as for Africa,I can tell you with certainty that Fascism of the political Righ has failed equally miserably... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) Socialists are trying to turn us all into slaves for another person. That is one of the end goals of socialism. Socialists wish to take money from my pocket in order to give it to someone else who has none and has done nothing to earn it. In turn socialists wish to force me to work for the common good of society, as they see it, for free or face jail time or some other sort of punishment. With ever rising taxes it appears they are winning in this country. Socialism is evil.... But not as evil as Fascism! Could you elucidate for everyone your feeling on the ideology of Fascism AND if Canada requires a Fascist revolt to turn the "Socialist" tide in this country? Edited February 15, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shakeyhands Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) Could you elucidate for everyone your feeling on the ideology of Fascism AND if Canada requires a Fascist revolt to tur the "Socialist" tide in this country? Wha....Huh???? It's all them freeloaders!!!!!!** ** I took the liberty of answering for you Mr C. You can thank me later. Edited February 15, 2011 by Shakeyhands Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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