bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) ....time for more US "foreign aid". Strike while the iron is hot! Edited February 13, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Is suspending the constitution a good idea at this stage? Does that not set things up for ease of abuse? Definitely a GOOD thing since it leads the way to a constitution that the people of Egypt can live under... The one Egypt had gave the people no rights and had to be done away with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 ....time for more US "foreign aid". Strike while the iron is hot! Sad but oh so true... Beats the hell out of the alternatives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Nope... Wannabe Fascist nutter dressing himslef up as a "right wing populist"... Mr.Falange (Canada) feels that Fascism has many positive qualities AND that Canada requires a Fascist revolt to rid this country of the "Socialist traitors"... He can disabuse me of that notion if he wishes,however,he did say those things back in the summer... Little seems to have changed... Ask him about his film career around the Gay Pride Parade...You'll love that one... Ahhh, thanks, definitely not worth my TIME then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 As utterly speculative and apocalyptic as the OP was, I am not sure at what point anything even remotely racist is said in it. Can you demonstrate what part of that post is racist? Pax, Tim Will this do? "Them"... "We need to go over and kill them all now while they're disorganized." ALL of that post was racist in my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Wrong, has to be informed, you are asked about the candidates running... I can find nothing to support this. Perhaps you can offer up a cite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I can find nothing to support this. Perhaps you can offer up a cite. Naaa, guess you have to have lived there or know somebody that does... If I happen to come across one though I'll let you know.. - Before polling day the Electoral Commission of South Australia places advertisements in the print media, television, radio and the Internet - www.ecsa.sa.gov.au - to provide the public with information relating to enrolment, close of the roll, pre-poll voting locations, postal voting, polling booth locations, candidate information, electoral district information and how to cast a valid vote. A telephone inquiry service for the public operates during the election period. Briefing sessions are conducted for candidates and the media, while Returning Officers employed by the Electoral Commission of South Australia to organise the election in an electoral district, attend a series of training sessions and are issued with comprehensive instruction and procedural manuals. Training sessions are also provided for appointed polling booth managers and booth staff. The electoral roll is a list of South Australian people who have filled out an electoral enrolment form and as a consequence become eligible to vote at all elections held in South Australia. The roll must close 10 days after the writ has been issued and any new enrolments or address changes after that date take effect after the election. - Anyway, if you have to vote it only makes sense that you'd know who and why you're voting for that person... I know Aussies do... There's no reason for them to be uninformed, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ahhh, thanks, definitely not worth my TIME then... Oh he's worth your time... For the pure comedy!!! Ask him about the necessary Fascist revolution in Canada... Ask him about his film foray into Gay Street Porn... It's hillarious!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Perhaps you can offer up a cite. Unfortunately, that's not something he does very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 The Obama administration is preparing the political ground for failure in Egypt. How fitting that it was Juma — Friday, the Islamic Sabbath day — that convinced Hosni Mubarak to end his 30-year reign as Egypt’s ruler. This was only hours after James Clapper, the U.S. director of national intelligence, told Congress that Mubarak’s main opposition, the Muslim Brotherhood, is “largely secular” in nature. Mr. Clapper was merely echoing the American media, taking pains to brand Egypt’s uprising as secular, democratic, and Islamist-free. It is a narrative divorced from reality. In Egypt, a self-consciously devout Islamic country, nothing is secular and Islamist-free, and therefore nothing is truly democratic, not in the Western sense. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/259614/islam-egypt-andrew-c-mccarthy?page... The for me dispelled any questions about the Obama regime's handling of the Egyptian crisis, and even worse, how it will turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Mr. Clapper was merely echoing the American media, taking pains to brand Egypt’s uprising as secular, democratic, and Islamist-free. That wasn't just the American media that had that view, it was pretty much every proper news outlet in the world, and the view of the vast majority of middle east analysts who were watching this very closely. The brotherhood had little to do with the protests, they were participants after a while, but they were not in control of it - if you had to pick anyone who was a leader, it was folks aligned with the thoroughly secular and democratic April 6th youth movement that's been working behind the scenes for at least 3 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Good news, elections within 6 months Much sooner than I expected - but this backs up what I said earlier about the Military being very responsive to the demands of the public. If they're well respected now - they'll be lionized if they oversee a transition to a vibrant democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xul Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Good....many have trained at American war college(s)... Just like those Iranian and Venezuelan army officers they know what to do. to do nothing but watch their new bosses kicking Uncle Sam's ass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Just like those Iranian and Venezuelan army officers ...and Canadian, just to be complete. to do nothing but watch their new bosses kicking Uncle Sam's ass.... See above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I don't know, Gwiz and BC 2004 are the one's making the claim. I don't doubt the close association, I just have deep reservations about how kind and gentle they seem to think the Egpytian military will be as a result of it. As I've said and posted before here and on other Egyptian Revolution related threads - The difference between what I and I believe BC 2004 (plus some others) are saying is that we are presenting our arguements based on facts as they exist, the realities as they exist, and the "most likely" scenarios going forward based on those facts and realities... No "biases", no hidden agendas, no ulterior motives, no regard for media hype and opinions to increase ratings just a "it is what it is" commentary... Even the FACT that I (a very PROUD, highly intelligent and very unconventional Canadian) and BC 2004 (a Bush-Cheney loving, cantankerous, but NOT radically so, American with some pretty good "smarts" and experience) can share a very simular viewpoint as it pertains to the events and realities in Egypt should be something to give you pause and make you think... Not so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 DEMOCRACY IS EVIL...ALL FORMS OF FORMALIZED GOVERNMENT ARE EVIL> It does not matter what lable you put on the system...either a good person runs the system or a bad abusive one runs the system - Obama goes on along with Harper that Egypt should have democracy ....well what kind of democracy? Will it be an evil person in charge or a good one? I don't care if they have a dictatorship or return to the Pharo system - It is all about who is leading...this buisness of shoving domocracy down the throats of all people on earth is a grabage program - we live in a slave state...once in a while they release a token slave to give us false hope - it's called the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Obama may be a secret Muslim. He may not even be born in America, he could've been born far away in a Muslim nation. He clearly sympathizes with Islamists, that's without doubt. On Egypt...they now have no government, no constitution and no parliament but they have democracy...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Obama may be a secret Muslim. He may not even be born in America, he could've been born far away in a Muslim nation. He clearly sympathizes with Islamists, that's without doubt. On Egypt...they now have no government, no constitution and no parliament but they have democracy...lol. If Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) was not born in the USA, then what does that mean for his 'Presidency' and the USA on the whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 If Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) was not born in the USA, then what does that mean for his 'Presidency' and the USA on the whole? I can answer that for Mr.Falange... Muslim overthrow and a USA Islamic Caliphate based on Sharia Law... I can't even say that with a straight face... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 I can answer that for Mr.Falange... Muslim overthrow and a USA Islamic Caliphate based on Sharia Law... I can't even say that with a straight face... But, but, but wouldn't that mean Canada would become the same? Don't we FOLLOW the United States in everything it does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) But, but, but wouldn't that mean Canada would become the same? Don't we FOLLOW the United States in everything it does? Not so fast... Not if Mr.Falange has his way and Canada gets the Fascist revolt he feels is necessary... This would stop the "Socialists" and the "Islamists" in their tracks for sure... Mr.Falange is a great admirer of Generalissimmo Francisco Franco... Just ask him... Edited February 15, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 DEMOCRACY IS EVIL...ALL FORMS OF FORMALIZED GOVERNMENT ARE EVIL> It does not matter what lable you put on the system...either a good person runs the system or a bad abusive one runs the system - Obama goes on along with Harper that Egypt should have democracy ....well what kind of democracy? Will it be an evil person in charge or a good one? I don't care if they have a dictatorship or return to the Pharo system - It is all about who is leading...this buisness of shoving domocracy down the throats of all people on earth is a grabage program - we live in a slave state...once in a while they release a token slave to give us false hope - it's called the lottery. This has to be the dumbest, most confusing, and senseless post I have ever read... It would seem that Egypt wasn't the only place that had a breakout from an institution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Obama may be a secret Muslim. He may not even be born in America, he could've been born far away in a Muslim nation. He clearly sympathizes with Islamists, that's without doubt. On Egypt...they now have no government, no constitution and no parliament but they have democracy...lol. A slight correction to my previous post... There are now TWO of the dumbest, most confusing, and senseless posts I have ever read... VERY It DEFINITELY would seem that Egypt wasn't the only place that had a breakout from an institution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWiz Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 No, that is not the case...not 100% Egypt's military is a hodge podge of American, other Western, Chinese, and ex-Soviet kit. The more modern hardware like F-16's, M60/M1 MBTs, patrol frigates, etc. are indeed American. Ok, ok, so I exaggerated - A LITTLE! Agreed...this is not a geopolitical calamity except for the remaining "regimes" that can see the writing on the wall. Economic growth and political stability is a great deoderant. Always nice when we can agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 The Revolution of Egypt may not be Hijacked. Now the difficult target of revolutionist is to reform the political economical and Social Orders of Egypt. Because the main motive of revolution was/is political, Social and economical injustice. How they will reform to prevail justice in these areas? While under the western type of Democracy they will be unable to achieve their targets. Because, the Elite people will again obtained the mandate of the Egyptian during Election and will legislate according to their own interest. A powerful Elite person will be elected by these Parliamentarians as their Ruler as such the revolution of Egyptians will be Hijacked. There will be no change. The looters of 70 billions Dollars will be protected along with his partners while the participants of this revolution were belonged from all walk of life as such it is pertinent to be shared the ruling power and better resources of income with people of all walk of life of Egypt. So that, to prevail justice and achieve the objectives of revolution. In the process of revolution the Lectures, Teachers, students and religious scholars/instructors were the key activists in this regard. Therefore, keeping in view the principal of sharing the ruling power and better resources of income this is their legitimate right to elect their own representatives for the Parliament of Egypt and govern their own concern Ministry of Education/religious affair. Likewise Doctors, Nurse/Paramedical staff/Curative types of People were also there as such they are also entitled to elect their own representatives for the State Parliament and govern their own concern Ministry of Health/welfare etc. The Judges and Lawyers were also sympathetic with revolutionist as such they are also entitled to elect their own representatives for the Parliament and govern their own concern Ministry of Law and legislature affairs etc. The Engineers and technical type of people were also engaged in this process as such they are entitle to elect their own representative for the Parliament and govern their own concerned Ministry of Science and technology, transportation and communications etc. The Parliament of Egypt must also be consisted on equal number of Labors and Cultivators representatives so that they may govern their own concerned Ministries of Labors affair and Agriculture and raw material production etc, as they were also active in the process of revolution so the ruling power and better resources of income may also be shared with them. The Army/Police was also sympathetic with revolutionist and played neutral role in this process. They only protected government and private property along with Presidential Palace. Now the Regime delegated all the sovereign power to Army Supreme Counsel. Now the question is that this counsel would be willing to quit these sovereign powers with out sharing it or Hijacked the revolution? It is therefore pertinent to allow them also to contest Election and elect their own representatives for the Parliament of Egypt and govern their own concern Ministry of External and internal Defense because there is no such verdicts nor written in the Scripture which refrained them from contesting elections in a democratic State so that may not be hijacked. The Artists of Film/ TV, Musicians, Journalists, show bez personals and professional Players etc were also seen during demonstration. Keeping in view the principal of sharing ruling power and better resources of income they are also entitle to elect their own representative and govern their own concern Ministry of information and entertainment affairs etc. Keeping in view justice and implementing true Democratic Orders sustainable, the Elite people are also entitled to elect their own representatives for the Parliament of Egypt so that not only they may be able to protect their rights but also govern their own concern Ministry of Commerce and Trade etc. The Egypt would be divided in to various zones/ constituencies according to the space of Egypt Parliament because (9) nine representatives of the above mentioned Revolutionist would be elected from each zone /Constituency. This would be the true democratic Parliament that would be consisted on the representatives of all walk of life of Egypt. As such the revolution will be rescued from all Hijackers. Suggested by Sabzali Khan Authors of True Democracy. [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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