Why Are Atheists Cowards?

[Shady]

And, so? If A muslim sees there is no god, they won't think that it only applies to the christian god...and if a christian sees they is no god, why would the advertiser want them to think it only applies to Allah?

Like I said, it provides the perfect cover for not having to specifically identifying other religions besides Christianity.

Maybe because the general public doesn't think alot about holidays celebrated by less than 2% of the population respectively.

I would agree, except for the fact that these ads are taken out in many different countries. With populations greatly exceeding the 2% level.

I hear it's huge in Japan

Yes, it wouldn't be an ad you'd run in Japan. Although it would be fairly safe. It would best run in New York, Toronto, London, or elsewhere in Europe. But they'd never do that. I'm sure you can guess why.

[bloodyminded]

I admit that I shouldn't have said atheists in general. Certainly somebody like Hitchens criticizes all religions, and isn't afraid to take on Judaism or Islam. It's these groups that take out ads thinking they're doing something brave, when in actuality, it's the easiest form of protest when criticizing religion.

Yes, well, Hitchens doesn't appear to be afraid of any fight, which is his strong point. (His weak point is that he's an insufferable douchebag.)

At any rate, where did these atheists claim they were doing something particularly brave?

In Western societies, it takes no bravery--not in any real, meaningful sense--to speak out for what you believe. This goes moreso for the U.S., even, given their unparalleled speech rights protections.

Edited December 16, 2010 by bloodyminded

[M.Dancer]

I would agree, except for the fact that these ads are taken out in many different countries. With populations greatly exceeding the 2% level.

I would agree too, if you were correct.

The $20,000 campaign, sponsored by a national organization called American Atheists

But I doubt that a small campaign by an american organization is running ads in different countries.

[Shady]

I would agree too, if you were correct.

But I doubt that a small campaign by an american organization is running ads in different countries.

Maybe not this group, but there are other groups. You don't remember the 30 buses in London, England? Carrying the "There Is No God" banners?

[M.Dancer]

Maybe not this group, but there are other groups. You don't remember the 30 buses in London, England? Carrying the "There Is No God" banners?

And? Does not God imply the God of Christian, Jews and Muslims?

Now of course had they targetted Hindus....'There are no Gods" would have only led to confusion as Christians, Jews and Muslims would tend to agree...

[GostHacked]

Shady ... you deserve the double /facepalm for this thread.

[M.Dancer]

Chanukka is a myth...

[Shady]

And? Does not God imply the God of Christian, Jews and Muslims?

Now of course had they targetted Hindus....'There are no Gods" would have only led to confusion as Christians, Jews and Muslims would tend to agree...

So you're admitting that your doubt about ads not running in other countries was wrong?

[Shady]

Chanukka is a myth...

Great. It's too bad these groups don't have the courage to do it publicly. The way they do with Christmas. I think we all know why.

[M.Dancer]

So you're admitting that your doubt about ads not running in other countries was wrong?

What? No I still doubt that an american group ran ads about christmas in other countries?

[M.Dancer]

Great. It's too bad these groups don't have the courage to do it publicly. The way they do with Christmas. I think we all know why.

You tube is pretty public...

[pfezziwig]

I'ld love to see how these athiets do as parents, I'm sure their kids will turn out fine learning moral values from cruising youtube, mtv and half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

Athiests stand for nothing other than to oppose people who have moral beliefs, niavely thinking everyone would be loving and compasionate without being taught to be so, sounds like our current shallow and selfish 'me first/consumerism culture' now come to think of it.

[M.Dancer]

I'ld love to see how these athiets do as parents, I'm sure their kids will turn out fine learning moral values from cruising youtube, mtv and half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

Athiests stand for nothing other than to oppose people who have moral beliefs, niavely thinking everyone would be loving and compasionate without being taught to be so, sounds like our current shallow and selfish 'me first/consumerism culture' now come to think of it.

Drivel.

To assume you need to believe in superstition to have moral beliefs is just drivel. To assume to need a superstition to be taught compassion is drivel. The rest of your post is drivel too.

[bloodyminded]

I'ld love to see how these athiets do as parents, I'm sure their kids will turn out fine learning moral values from cruising youtube, mtv and half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

Yeah, all those kids are listening to The Kinks and Jefferson Airplane...where's it all gonna end?

Athiests stand for nothing other than to oppose people who have moral beliefs

They don't oppose people who have moral beliefs. Not at all.

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niavely thinking everyone would be loving and compasionate without being taught to be so,

Nonsense. No one thinks any such thing.

sounds like our current shallow and selfish 'me first/consumerism culture' now come to think of it.

A thoroughly multi-partisan phenomenon, transcending belief or disbelief.

Edited December 16, 2010 by bloodyminded

[GostHacked]

I'ld love to see how these athiets do as parents, I'm sure their kids will turn out fine learning moral values from cruising youtube, mtv and half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

I hope you are not representing those who believe in a god. And if you want to talk about pedophiles, you might want to have a word with the Catholic Church.

Both my parents are atheists. Me and my sister are doing fine and both of us are atheists) She runs her own interior decorating company, and I am an IT specialist in a large grocery business. Neither of us have gotten into trouble with the law.

However, religion was not forced upon us, so we made up our own minds, and in the end we turned out better than some of those who do believe in god.

Athiests stand for nothing other than to oppose people who have moral beliefs, niavely thinking everyone would be loving and compasionate without being taught to be so, sounds like our current shallow and selfish 'me first/consumerism culture' now come to think of it.

Give your head a shake, I think your brain is dislodged slightly.

[The_Squid]

Really? Then show me the "There Is No Allah" ads. Show me the "Ramadan Is A Myth" ads. Show me the "Hanukkah Is A Myth" ads.

Did you check the links and read the quotes in my posts? Clearly your premise is 100% patently false... mistaken... wrong... incorrect... inaccurate... off the mark...

Edited December 16, 2010 by The_Squid

[guyser]

I'ld love to see how these athiets do as parents, I'm sure their kids will turn out fine learning moral values from cruising youtube, mtv and half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

Athiests stand for nothing other than to oppose people who have moral beliefs, niavely thinking everyone would be loving and compasionate without being taught to be so, sounds like our current shallow and selfish 'me first/consumerism culture' now come to think of it.

And here we have the fine thinking that comes through attending a church.

Congrats! But I suspect it is lost on you.

[The_Squid]

...half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

Isn't that sort of Jesus' philosophy, in a nutshell?

[Guest TrueMetis]

Isn't that sort of Jesus' philosophy, in a nutshell?

That and giving away all your stuff to the poor. Jesus the original socialist.

[Shady]

That and giving away all your stuff to the poor. Jesus the original socialist.

When did Jesus give away all his things to the poor? And what were those things?

[bloodyminded]

When did Jesus give away all his things to the poor? And what were those things?

He said people should give away all their things; but I don't believe it was a direct order.

Merely the right thing to do.

I know, I know--the contemporary view of Jesus is that he's a capitalist, and prefers the rich. It wasn't always this way.

[dre]

I'ld love to see how these athiets do as parents, I'm sure their kids will turn out fine learning moral values from cruising youtube, mtv and half baked hippie philosophies like 'peace and love, man'.

'peace and love, man'

Thats very similar to the message Jesus himself taught. Which is ironic... because If jesus showed up today the religious right slit his throat and toss his corpse in the gutter.

[dre]

He said people should give away all their things; but I don't believe it was a direct order.

Merely the right thing to do.

I know, I know--the contemporary view of Jesus is that he's a capitalist, and prefers the rich. It wasn't always this way.

He said people should give away all their things; but I don't believe it was a direct order.

It wasnt an "order" per say, but something you have to do to get into heaven. Most of todays christians dont believe in any even remotely similar to what Jesus taught.

[Jack Weber]

We've all seen or heard about their ads.

Well, why don't we ever seen any of these ads from them....?

"There Is No Allah."

"Ramadan Is A Myth."

"There Is No Yahweh."

"Hanukkah Is A Myth, Oil Can't Burn That Long."

My guess is it's because they're cowards. Looking for the path of least resistence. Or, they're worried about offending people. But apparently offending Christians isn't much of an issue for them. Only offending Jews and Muslims. Which makes them cowards and hypocrites.

Either way, it shows their lack of courage and character. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they challenged religion on all fronts. Instead they pick the easiest way to push their message. Pathetic.

Uh...Well...First of all,most Jews I know know God by the name of Hashem or Elohim NOT Yahweh or Jehovah...

So,calling God by another name might not mean much to the average Jew...

And more impotantly Professor...Seeing as you now style yourself some sort of expert on Christianity,and I'm going to take the leap of faith that your not as mentally deranged as Markuze...

Could you please elucidate for the class,without looking it up of course,your feelings on the 6 Day Theory and how it relates to the times we are living in vis a vis End Time Prophecy?

Edited December 17, 2010 by Jack Weber

[Jack Weber]

When did Jesus give away all his things to the poor? And what were those things?

Matthew 6:19,20

Luke 12:33