Mandatory Jail Sentence for Growing Five Pot Plants

[Evening Star]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Senate+passes+bill+with+mandatory+jail+sentence+growing+plants/3887047/story.html

This is really retrogressive imo. What is it supposed to accomplish? Does anyone seriously believe marijuana is a serious threat anymore? I'm surprised by the Liberal support for this.

[Evening Star]

(I haven't been a smoker for a long time btw and I don't think it's an especially healthy habit but I also see no purpose to this kind of approach.)

[kimmy]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Senate+passes+bill+with+mandatory+jail+sentence+growing+plants/3887047/story.html

This is really retrogressive imo. What is it supposed to accomplish? Does anyone seriously believe marijuana is a serious threat anymore? I'm surprised by the Liberal support for this.

My advice would be to stop at 4 plants.

Laws regarding marijuana in this country really only work to the advantage of criminal groups. But, as long as marijuana is illegal, law enforcement officials need to have the tools to pursue the people who growing and distributing it. There are some very bad people in this business that should be put in jail.

-k

[Evening Star]

I suppose. I just kind of think that if Parliament is going to spend time on new laws about marijuana anyway, the most sensible thing to do would be to decriminalize it. There might be a nuance I'm missing though.

[Evening Star]

You do raise valid points though.

[eyeball]

So again, how does one square the fact that most people, especially conservatives apparently, do not want the government to legislate their personal behaviour - they want the state off people's backs in other words, and yet...they keep voting for Conservatives who can't jump up and down on them fast or hard enough.

This is right-wing consistency at it's finest, it just doesn't get any better.

[Michael Hardner]

Doesn't 5 plants yield a huge amount ? I mean, tens of thousands of dollars worth ?

Surely there's somebody on the board from BC who can ask a neighbour or relative if this is the case.

[eyeball]

Doesn't 5 plants yield a huge amount ? I mean, tens of thousands of dollars worth ?

Surely there's somebody on the board from BC who can ask a neighbour or relative if this is the case.

The RCMP are who most people around here rely on for their information on such matters. They report the pot plants they find in the bush around here yield 2 lbs of finished product per plant. They also tell us most of the profits go to people like the Hells Angels and Osama bin Laden.

I'm not making this up.

[Oleg Bach]

I hate pot..but will smoke it when I am drunk..seeing I am avoiding booze as of late...I say jail all the pot heads---and execute the jerks that sell booze...hope I have not been to extreme.

[eyeball]

I hate pot..but will smoke it when I am drunk..seeing I am avoiding booze as of late...I say jail all the pot heads---and execute the jerks that sell booze...hope I have not been to extreme.

Only in your inconsistency. It seems only fair that you should execute the potheads too.

[Battletoads]

Pot is a 7 billion dollar industry in BC, and its also the largest industry in BC by far. I really with the Government would get its head out of its ass and get with the times by legalizing pot already.

[eyeball]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/10/27/bc-california-proposition-marijuana.html

Calif. pot vote threatens B.C. bud industry.

I recall reading that the vote failed due to so many growers around Mendocino saying no to legalization. Economics trumps virtue so they say.

I got a real laugh out of learning MADD and the associated distillery's of America jumped into the same bed to stop legalization.

[dre]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Senate+passes+bill+with+mandatory+jail+sentence+growing+plants/3887047/story.html

This is really retrogressive imo. What is it supposed to accomplish? Does anyone seriously believe marijuana is a serious threat anymore? I'm surprised by the Liberal support for this.

Wow what a piece of shit country I live in these days.

[Guest TrueMetis]

Doesn't 5 plants yield a huge amount ? I mean, tens of thousands of dollars worth ?

Surely there's somebody on the board from BC who can ask a neighbour or relative if this is the case.

My brother is growing perfectly legal weed, about 20 plants IIRC and it's worth about ten thousand dollars. And yes I'm from BC.

OT mandatory minimums suck they take the judging away from the judge and essentially put it in the hands of idiot legislators.

[Wilber]

My brother is growing perfectly legal weed, about 20 plants IIRC and it's worth about ten thousand dollars. And yes I'm from BC.

OT mandatory minimums suck they take the judging away from the judge and essentially put it in the hands of idiot legislators.

Unfortunately judges have brought this on themselves.

[dre]

Unfortunately judges have brought this on themselves.

No.. CANADIANS have brought this on themselves.

[Wilber]

No.. CANADIANS have brought this on themselves.

Parliament has allowed a wide range of penalties for different offences. Precedent and case law has made them all but irrelevent.

[dre]

Parliament has allowed a wide range of penalties for different offences. Precedent and case law has made them all but irrelevent.

Like I said. We stood around and spectated, and we deserve what we get. Canadians have polled in favor of pot decriminalization for 20 years. Dozens of government commmissioned studies have recommended it.

What do we get? A crackdown that grows the prison industry, and gives prison time to people growing small ammounts.

Common sense is being literally SODOMIZED here. Canadians are shameful to suffer this kind of thing with narry a whimper.

[Wilber]

Like I said. We stood around and spectated, and we deserve what we get. Canadians have polled in favor of pot decriminalization for 20 years. Dozens of government commmissioned studies have recommended it.

What do we get? A crackdown that grows the prison industry, and gives prison time to people growing small ammounts.

Common sense is being literally SODOMIZED here. Canadians are shameful to suffer this kind of thing with narry a whimper.

Seems those same people don't elect representatives who read those polls or they have bigger priorities than smoking pot.

I wouldn't know. How much pot do you get from four plants, enough for a family of four and how long does it take to grow them?

As far as manatory minimums in general go, the courts have no one but themselves to blame. Whenever I hear some reporter say that someone has been charged with an offense and could get something like 15 years, I yawn. If they don't get a conditional sentence, you know damn well they will only get a few months and only have to serve two thirds of them almost regardless of the crime.

[dre]

Seems those same people don't elect representatives who read those polls or they have bigger priorities than smoking pot.

I wouldn't know. How much pot do you get from four plants, enough for a family of four and how long does it take to grow them?

As far as manatory minimums in general go, the courts have no one but themselves to blame. Whenever I hear some reporter say that someone has been charged with an offense and could get something like 15 years, I yawn. If they don't get a conditional sentence, you know damn well they will only get a few months and only have to serve two thirds of them almost regardless of the crime.

Seems those same people don't elect representatives who read those polls or they have bigger priorities than smoking pot.

No the real problem is that criminalization is a massive industry that generates billions of dollars for the enforcement industry, and billions more for organized crime.

This is a dream come true for these two groups. Its a boon for organized criminals who will see expanded revenues and a boon for the prison/enforcement industry. But its a nightmare for everyone else.

Its one of the stupidest things we have ever done.

[Saipan]

No.. CANADIANS have brought this on themselves.

Yes, and that's too bad. When Liberals came with registration/confiscation some Canadians applauded. Now it's their turn to get screwed

[dre]

Yes, and that's too bad. When Liberals came with registration/confiscation some Canadians applauded. Now it's their turn to get screwed

Yeah... because throwing someone in the general prison population for growing house plants is equivalent to charging gun owners a small registration feed...

[BubberMiley]

If there's a ridiculous law, perhaps it's best if it's enforced severely so that people can see just how stupid it is. Then they'll finally vote out, once and for all, the idiots who keep the law in place.

It's a small sacrifice to see the CPC go down the toilet.

[Jack Weber]

I hate pot..but will smoke it when I am drunk..seeing I am avoiding booze as of late...I say jail all the pot heads---and execute the jerks that sell booze...hope I have not been to extreme.

No way...

You're never extreme...Or wierd...Or generally incoherent...

[Evening Star]

Yeah... because throwing someone in the general prison population for growing house plants is equivalent to charging gun owners a small registration feed...

I don't even see the connection between the two issues. Why assume that people in favour of the gun registry must also be opposed to this, or vice versa? I didn't have a strong opinion on the gun registry but I still think this is stupid.