To the Tea Party: Keep Your Hands Off of German History

[Bitsy]

The "Angel of Death" is not Hitler....besides...the AoD is a Democrat!

I know who was called the Angel of Death and he was no Democrat If you noticed in my post, I did not say it was Hitler.

[Shady]

Uh oh.

"I'd definitely compare him to Hitler."

[Bitsy]

Yea..that's what I said. Is there an echo in here?

Must be ,

[nicky10013]

Yea..that's what I said. Is there an echo in here?

It was still one of the most infamous Nazis of all time. The point remains the same. If you want to play semantics that's your business.

[Shady]

This is fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDhLsEAV5g&feature=related

[Shady]

Geez. These stupid Tea Partiers were protesting several years ago too. Except those morons depicted Obama as being an older white male.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5oPBDe7uI&feature=related

[nicky10013]

This is fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDhLsEAV5g&feature=related

Of course it's fun for people who can't understand simple concepts, like you, bud.

I still haven't seen any candidates or news networks, or candidates in nazi uniforms. Like I said, the lunatic fringe with no sway who were condemned. Anything else?

[Shady]

Of course it's fun for people who can't understand simple concepts, like you, bud.

I still haven't seen any candidates or news networks, or candidates in nazi uniforms. Like I said, the lunatic fringe with no sway who were condemned. Anything else?

I've already provided networks and Democrat organizations like MoveOn.org. You haven't provided anything but lies and accusations.

[nicky10013]

I've already provided networks and Democrat organizations like MoveOn.org. You haven't provided anything but lies and accusations.

Networks and democratic organizations in plural? The only one you provided was moveon.org and that isn't a democratic organization. If you didn't know, networks implies more than one. More than one. You'll understand some day champ. Just because they both don't like Bush don't automatically mean they're in bed together. This is what I meant by the fact that you can't understand simple concepts.

The original post has the article from Der Spiegel. If you don't want to read it, that's your business, but the only one making unfounded accusations here is you. Some idiot standing outside a Gore lecture does not...I repeat, does not equal actual Republican candidates dressing up in SS uniforms and leaders like Beck and Palin making those kind of comparisons. It just doesn't compute. If you think it does, you seriously need to go back to school.

[Bitsy]

Uh oh.

Shady, perchance did you notice that no one used Hitler to describe Bush until the interviewer asked them what leader they would compare Bush to? Just another gotcha video by a Evan Maloney, a self-described Libertarian, and described by the New York Times as an ambush interviewer, an ideological opposite of Michael Moore.

More fear mongering at the end

Edited October 25, 2010 by Bitsy

[Bitsy]

This is fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDhLsEAV5g&feature=related

Surelu you don't think war is fun? Or do you just enjoy the anti-war protesters?

[Bitsy]

Geez. These stupid Tea Partiers were protesting several years ago too. Except those morons depicted Obama as being an older white male.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5oPBDe7uI&feature=related

Anti-war protesters are passionate and extreme sloganizing has always been part of any anti-war demonstration…anyone remember Viet Nam protesters?

The Democrats have a classy ex-President who is not afraid to call out bad behavior of his party; unlike any Republican ex-Presidents.

[Shady]

The original post has the article from Der Spiegel.

Your link doesn't work. And what you quoted backs up none of your assertions. You're just a hatemonger and smearmerchant.

Edited October 25, 2010 by Shady

[Shady]

The Democrats have a classy ex-President who is not afraid to call out bad behavior of his party;

LOL. What's funny, is the clip of Carter was in reference to his calling out of anti-Obama protestors. That clearly went over your head!

[nicky10013]

Your link doesn't work. And what you quoted backs up none of your assertions. You're just a hatemonger and smearmerchant.

Are you willing to call Der Spiegel a hatemonger and smearmerchant?

Just copy and paste, it's only hyperlinking half the link. Copy and paste it all, just not the blue.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,724418,00.html

Edited October 25, 2010 by nicky10013

[Shady]

Surelu you don't think war is fun?

Nice strawman. So if you don't think war is fun, then comparing Bush to Hitler is acceptable. Riiiiight.

[maple_leafs182]

I don't know if you can compare Bush to Hitler but you can probably compare fascist Germany to fascist America.

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't know if you can compare Bush to Hitler but you can probably compare fascist Germany to fascist America.

...or "fascist" Great Britain (and its Empire)...fascist Italy...fascist Japan...etc.

Edited October 25, 2010 by bush_cheney2004

[Bitsy]

LOL. What's funny, is the clip of Carter was in reference to his calling out of anti-Obama protestors. That clearly went over your head!

Mea Culpa, I tuned out when I saw the signs and paid no attention to dates. I admitted above that the anti-war protests were ugly, I did not defend them then and do not do so now.

[Bitsy]

Nice strawman. So if you don't think war is fun, then comparing Bush to Hitler is acceptable. Riiiiight.

Wrong!!! But since I don't share your fun in searching for clips, I thought maybe you meant the war was fun.

[August1991]

This link dates from 2005. There were three more years of Bush Hitler allusions.

I agree with the link in the OP; the comparison (whether Bush or Obama) is worse than hackneyed. Bush left office peacefully and handed power over to Obama. Obama will face re-election in two years.

No one ever said that being US president is an easy job.

[scribblet]

It isn't an analogy he literally dresses and acts as a Nazi, and his acted out SS is the very SS that was once lead by one of the worst Nazi Doctors of all time.

It was a re-enactment group, that doesn't make him a Nazi supporter, are actors who play Nazis their supporters too? Maybe in today's climate it would not be prudent to belong to such a group as these things have a way of being taken completely out of context and used against you.

The website of the Wiking reenactment group includes a disclaimer stating that individuals involved with the group "are in no way affiliated with real, radical political organizations... and do not embrace the philosophies and actions of the original NSDAP (Nazi party), and wholeheartedly condemn the atrocities which made them infamous."

I saw many pieces and posts comparing Bush to Hitler and am looking at one right now that has documented many of the signs at various rallies, hardly the 'fringe'. Moveon.org did a "Bush in 30 Seconds" project containing two specific comments comparing Bush = Hitler, there was no shortage of that nonsense.

Remember Soros, you know him, he opined that Bush's rhetoric reminded him of the Third Reich while Al Gore used the term "Brownshirts" in a speech referring to Bush 's teams so it was definitely main stream.

[scribblet]

This link dates from 2005. There were three more years of Bush Hitler allusions.

I agree with the link in the OP; the comparison (whether Bush or Obama) is worse than hackneyed. Bush left office peacefully and handed power over to Obama. Obama will face re-election in two years.

No one ever said that being US president is an easy job.

I often wonder why anyone would ever want it and how any of them find the time to sleep - Maybe a good topic, what makes someone want to be President.

Edited October 25, 2010 by scribblet

[Bitsy]

I saw many pieces and posts comparing Bush to Hitler and am looking at one right now that has documented many of the signs at various rallies, hardly the 'fringe'. Moveon.org did a "Bush in 30 Seconds" project containing two specific comments comparing Bush = Hitler, there was no shortage of that nonsense.

I am so glad that you ignored my response to Shady after he brought up the “Move-On video”. Reposting the punking of Republicans is fun.

Shady, Shady, Shady, I cannot believe you fell for the Move-On video. Obviously, you were not paying attention when this first appeared on the conservative outrage screen. In 2004, Move-On ran a contest, Bush in 30 Seconds, the winning video would be featured in a national ad. They received over 1500 amateur videos, and the one you posted was among them. All the videos were posted on their website for members to vote on and when this ad was discovered, it was immediately removed from their website. Move-On apologized for this video and another one they discovered that they deemed to be offensive.

Remember Soros, you know him, he opined that Bush's rhetoric reminded him of the Third Reich

Well, not exactly,

But last week at Davos, Soros made folks like Gwyneth Paltrow and Sean Penn look downright patriotic. After asserting that the United States is recognizing the error it made in Iraq, Soros said, "To what extent it recognizes the mistake will determine its future." He went on to say that Turkey and Japan are still hurt by a reluctance to admit to dark parts of their history, and contrasted that reluctance to Germany's rejection of its Nazi-era past. "America needs to follow the policies it has introduced in Germany," Soros said. "We have to go through a certain de-Nazification process." Soros spokesman Michael Vachon told Page Six: "There is nothing unpatriotic about demanding accountability from the president. Those responsible for taking America into this needless war should do us all a favor and retire from public office."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/item_oAn9HehDSq8cHYS3PElKlL;jsessionid=7FC1D8A5606B94D2403E7A12D50F6C87#ixzz13NDhbD7e

while Al Gore used the term "Brownshirts" in a speech referring to Bush 's teams so it was definitely main stream.

What Gore actually said was in reference to the media/bloggers not “Bush’ teams”.

"The present executive branch has made it a practice to try and control and intimidate news organizations: from PBS to CBS to Newsweek. They placed a former male escort in the White House press pool to pose as a reporter - and then called upon him to give the president a hand at crucial moments. They paid actors to make phony video press releases and paid cash to some reporters who were willing to take it in return for positive stories. And every day they unleash squadrons of digital brownshirts to harass and hector any journalist who is critical of the President."

[scribblet]

This link dates from 2005. There were three more years of Bush Hitler allusions.

I agree with the link in the OP; the comparison (whether Bush or Obama) is worse than hackneyed. Bush left office peacefully and handed power over to Obama. Obama will face re-election in two years.

No one ever said that being US president is an easy job.

Just thought I'd ad this for further reference

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/18/the-new-digital-brownshirts/

Where is Al Gore when you need him? Three years ago, the former vice president blasted "digital brownshirts" who "harass and hector any journalist who is critical of the president." He meant the mortal threat to the Republic of bloggers and angry Republican e-mailers. But times change, and the digital legions are greater nowadays on Mr. Gore's side. Thus we don't hear much fretting at all about the Obama Action Wire, which, unlike the brownshirts of yore, is actually managed by Barack Obama's campaign to muzzle critical media.

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