Toronto Municipal Elections 2010

[Michael Hardner]

"I'm a zit!"

Yeah, you might be right.

Tell me you wouldn't want to see Ford do that to Sarah Thomson.

[Black Dog]

It's hard to beat a campaign that's cliched the demographic of drunk-drivers, wife-beaters and slumlords. That's a lot of people.

"Just folks" numbskull populism coupled with incoherent rage clearly resonates with suburban voters and their ilk a well. Not sure how that translates to good civic governance , though.

[msdogfood]

It's hard to beat a campaign that's cliched the demographic of drunk-drivers, wife-beaters and slumlords. That's a lot of people.

true!

[CANADIEN]

That's good for her, but Canada doesn't need her here. We don't even have enough jobs for ourselves. This is again a 'number's factual thingy' that the far left don't like discussing.

She does a lot of damage by being here that is too long to get into.

Her dreams came true here, but at a cost to a Canadian. We are the only country in the world that allows this 'crime' to happen. (Australia arguably also).

Let's put it this way, I would MUCH rather have welfare indolents from Somalia here than your wife as your wife causes MUCH more damage to our country than the indolents. But that is probably a bit over your head to reason with you exactly why.

(and no it's not your wife in specific of course, I'm just using her as an example.. people like her do not benefit Canada at all, but rather do 'extreme' damage to our country).

Immigrants who actually SUCCEED economically and socially and CONTRIBUTEto the well-being of this country are actualy causing damage?

This is one of the most stupid postings I have seen here. YOU are unable to do and be omething useful? YOUR problem.

Edited September 13, 2010 by CANADIEN

[Jack Weber]

That's the thing. She's not needed. Remember the key word is needed.

Tell that she's needed to all my educated friends with degree's who can't find work in their field.

Educated immigrants are NOT needed in Canada.

The woman in question could not get a job in her field,even though she's university educated...

So she went back to school,at her and her husbands expense,retrained,and,is now fully employed....And looking to go back to schol to further her education and better her job prospects...

Perhaps there's a lesson there????

[scribblet]

I think there's a bit of a tea party going on in Toronto, they are rising up against the entrenched left wing establishment, Ford represents the anti establishment. Personally I hope he gets in, just to shake them all up, even if it's only for one term. Go Ford !!

[Oleg Bach]

If Smithermans own brother betrays him it means Smitherman some where along the line betrayed his brother.

[Oleg Bach]

Which means that SMITHERMAN will betray the public - of course unless you sleep with him....and I am sure he is the top dog and not the bottom pillow biter...ooooh that was so politically incorrect..between Ford the glutton and Smitherman the psudeo phag..looks like we might as well try to recruit that hyper active yes corporate troll John Tory...yes we are in a bread basket already in hell...Toronto has gone to the dogs...they control the town.

[Dog]

Rob Ford has run a successful business while i don't believe Slitherman has ever been successful running anything but a glory hole .

[Michael Hardner]

Rob Ford has run a successful business while i don't believe Slitherman has ever been successful running anything but a glory hole .

And you have trouble putting together a successful post.

[Dog]

And you have trouble putting together a successful post.

Not really

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[Michael Hardner]

Rob Ford has a 24 point lead in the race.

That’s a 24-point lead since Nanos Research’s June sampling of who voters wanted in the mayor’s saddle.

Its latest poll of 1,021 Torontonians — released Sunday — has Ford with 45.8% of decided voters. A new Pollara study shows him chomping farther ahead at the bit, with 46% of 700 people it sampled.

Nanos says Ford’s five closest rivals trailed well behind in its Sept. 14-16 telephone sampling. Ex-Ontario health minister George Smitherman captured 21.3% of decided voters, deputy mayor Joe Pantalone was third with 16.8%, ex-Liberal party honcho Rocco Rossi had 9.7% and businesswoman Sarah Thomson placed next with 6.4%

[Black Dog]

I think there's a bit of a tea party going on in Toronto, they are rising up against the entrenched left wing establishment, Ford represents the anti establishment. Personally I hope he gets in, just to shake them all up, even if it's only for one term. Go Ford !!

And the like the teabaggers, there's no actual substance to the pro-Ford movement. Just rage.

[Black Dog]

Rob Ford has run a successful business while i don't believe Slitherman has ever been successful running anything but a glory hole .

Rob Ford plans to "stop the gravy train" by drinking all the gravy.

Rob Ford turned his Humvee into a low rider just by sitting in the driver's seat.

When Rob Ford's cellphone beeps, people get out of the way 'cos they think he's backing up.

I'm here all week. Try the veal...oh wait: Rob Ford ate it all.

[Wild Bill]

And the like the teabaggers, there's no actual substance to the pro-Ford movement. Just rage.

That may or may not be true but all those angry people are going to get to vote, just the same.

A better question might be, why all the rage? Obviously, it's a reaction to Miller and his council's previous actions. What did they do to trigger such a strong reaction?

[Black Dog]

That may or may not be true but all those angry people are going to get to vote, just the same.

A better question might be, why all the rage? Obviously, it's a reaction to Miller and his council's previous actions. What did they do to trigger such a strong reaction?

Angry people don't need real reasons to be angry: they just need a target. in this case, it's Miller and his left-leaning council, the unions and "fat cats" in city hall, immigrants...pretty much the usual targets for people of a certain political persuasion (and little sophistication) who feel hard done by.

The better question is: what real steps do the rageaholics plan to take to pull the city up from the state they claim it's in? So far, Ford has proposed cutting spending at city hall (which will amount to a savings of $16.5 million for a ciy with an operating budget of nearly $9.2 billion), dropping in excess of $4B on a tranist plan from the 1950s and cutting city revenues by more than $250M. And that's it.

[Shwa]

That may or may not be true but all those angry people are going to get to vote, just the same.

A better question might be, why all the rage? Obviously, it's a reaction to Miller and his council's previous actions. What did they do to trigger such a strong reaction?

The piling mountains of garbage liquifying and fermenting in the blasting summer heat last year might have something to do with it. Experiencing such odours leaves one with an indelible memory of the event regardless how one believes the final outcome was justified or not. It was a lose-lose situation for Mayor Miller and he knew it. Plus the rats.

[nicky10013]

I heard an interesting quote from outgoing councillor Kyle Rae. It's interesting to note that the mayor has only one vote and has to bring the rest of the councillors along with him if he wants to get any initiative done. Rob Ford is going to completely alienate the majority of council and Kyle Rae predicts a mayor in all but name will come out of the wood work that will actually get that work done leaving Rob Ford completely useless for all functions but ceremonial.

[Michael Hardner]

I heard an interesting quote from outgoing councillor Kyle Rae. It's interesting to note that the mayor has only one vote and has to bring the rest of the councillors along with him if he wants to get any initiative done. Rob Ford is going to completely alienate the majority of council and Kyle Rae predicts a mayor in all but name will come out of the wood work that will actually get that work done leaving Rob Ford completely useless for all functions but ceremonial.

This will be his challenge. Can he build bridges ? Doesn't seem likely does it ?

[nicky10013]

This will be his challenge. Can he build bridges ? Doesn't seem likely does it ?

I don't think so. Unless theres a conservative sweep of council, which isn't going to happen, he won't be able to get any of his initiatives done. He's good at alienating people and not much else.

[Shwa]

I heard an interesting quote from outgoing councillor Kyle Rae. It's interesting to note that the mayor has only one vote and has to bring the rest of the councillors along with him if he wants to get any initiative done. Rob Ford is going to completely alienate the majority of council and Kyle Rae predicts a mayor in all but name will come out of the wood work that will actually get that work done leaving Rob Ford completely useless for all functions but ceremonial.

And Rob Ford would hate this how? I mean, for starters, the pay has got to be pretty sweet...

[Wild Bill]

Angry people don't need real reasons to be angry: they just need a target. in this case, it's Miller and his left-leaning council, the unions and "fat cats" in city hall, immigrants...pretty much the usual targets for people of a certain political persuasion (and little sophistication) who feel hard done by.

The better question is: what real steps do the rageaholics plan to take to pull the city up from the state they claim it's in? So far, Ford has proposed cutting spending at city hall (which will amount to a savings of $16.5 million for a ciy with an operating budget of nearly $9.2 billion), dropping in excess of $4B on a tranist plan from the 1950s and cutting city revenues by more than $250M. And that's it.

Well, your premise is only relevant if your yardstick is to improve the city's situation. This is politics, remember. If the premise is whether Ford can defeat all challengers and get the mayor's job his chances look pretty good! Afterwards, he doesn't actually have to deliver to be successful. He simply has to be perceived, rightly or wrongly, as the man who is trying! If he doesn't get much support from the rest of his council, those councilors run the risk of being perceived as obstructionists. Politically, Ford would get credit for trying and the others would get the blame for any failure.

If the tide in Toronto is to blame leftwing councilors for high taxes and poor services Ford could win an enviable position! He doesn't necessarily have to come up with GOOD ideas! He simply has to make sure the other guys take the blame for any failures.

This would put the leftwing councilors in a difficult position. If the name of the game is self-sustaining, properly delivered services and lower taxes they tend to be handicapped in originating such. They do much better at handing out blank cheques.

[nicky10013]

And Rob Ford would hate this how? I mean, for starters, the pay has got to be pretty sweet...

That doesn't mean he still won't be a bloated red faced loud mouth. If I were to pick between do-nothing mayors, I'd rather have one that doesn't offend everyone within a 100 mile radius.

[Jack Weber]

Some one in Toronto can correct me if I'm wrong,butwas'nt Ford's Dad an MPP from Etobicoke during the first Harris Mandate??

I rememeber this person as being quite a bullying lout at Queens Park during that time...

[Dog]

Some one in Toronto can correct me if I'm wrong,butwas'nt Ford's Dad an MPP from Etobicoke during the first Harris Mandate??

I rememeber this person as being quite a bullying lout at Queens Park during that time...

Please don't tell me that people are going to start attacking Rob Fords dead father . Doug Ford was the main reason Etobicoke General Hospital got a CT scan when it did . Doug was known for paying for many many people to get back and forth from cancer treatments out of his own pocket .

At least keep your hate directed at people that can respond to it .