Mr.Canada Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I make plenty of mistakes myself, but two there/their/they're mistakes so close together ( a pet peeve of mine) is too much for me to let slip. I rarely make those mistakes ah well, even angels make mistakes. For the record I hate it as well. To and too is another one I don't like to see but do see it often. I cannot wait until Sun News starts up. It'll be refreshing to get a balanced point of view up here instead of the constant leftist view of things and the soft commentary panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 If they're going to call this thing "Sun News", I doubt it will succeed. The Sun brand of papers is widely viewed as a lightweight news/sports/entertainment page intended to be quick and easy to read on a bus or during breakfast. It's not aimed at people who are interested in serious journalism. People who are interested in lightweight news/sports/entertainment aren't likely to invest much of their TV time in "Sun News" when there's way more entertaining things on TV. Branding it after the Sun chain of papers is going to alienate the people who are most likely to spend their TV time watching a news program. My guess is that branding this after the Sun chain of papers is a big mistake. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 If they're going to call this thing "Sun News", I doubt it will succeed. The Sun brand of papers is widely viewed as a lightweight news/sports/entertainment page intended to be quick and easy to read on a bus or during breakfast. It's not aimed at people who are interested in serious journalism. People who are interested in lightweight news/sports/entertainment aren't likely to invest much of their TV time in "Sun News" when there's way more entertaining things on TV. Branding it after the Sun chain of papers is going to alienate the people who are most likely to spend their TV time watching a news program. My guess is that branding this after the Sun chain of papers is a big mistake. -k I agree. On top of the channel it will replace (Sun TV) which already has poor ratings and a snooze inducing line up, adding a brand that is seen as low brow and calling it an all news channel is a risky venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 That's it? That's the best you can do? Any real opposition? How 'bout some sort of Francisco Franco seance(sp) show? Perhaps we could channel all that Fascistic power into our Prime Minister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 I agree. On top of the channel it will replace (Sun TV) which already has poor ratings and a snooze inducing line up, adding a brand that is seen as low brow and calling it an all news channel is a risky venture. Are you trying to tell us that you are NOT a fan of the Casino Rama Grill Room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 If they're going to call this thing "Sun News", I doubt it will succeed. The Sun brand of papers is widely viewed as a lightweight news/sports/entertainment page intended to be quick and easy to read on a bus or during breakfast. It's not aimed at people who are interested in serious journalism. People who are interested in lightweight news/sports/entertainment aren't likely to invest much of their TV time in "Sun News" when there's way more entertaining things on TV. Branding it after the Sun chain of papers is going to alienate the people who are most likely to spend their TV time watching a news program. My guess is that branding this after the Sun chain of papers is a big mistake. -k You mean to tell me that you don't think a tabloid of 65? pages cannot be taken seriously when 43 pages are full page car ad's/TV and stereo ads? I think I'll watch if they have a daily sunshine girl boucing around the set at various times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdogfood Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 If they're going to call this thing "Sun News", I doubt it will succeed. The Sun brand of papers is widely viewed as a lightweight news/sports/entertainment page intended to be quick and easy to read on a bus or during breakfast. It's not aimed at people who are interested in serious journalism. People who are interested in lightweight news/sports/entertainment aren't likely to invest much of their TV time in "Sun News" when there's way more entertaining things on TV. Branding it after the Sun chain of papers is going to alienate the people who are most likely to spend their TV time watching a news program. My guess is that branding this after the Sun chain of papers is a big mistake. -k Thais is so true!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 It sounds weird, right? Why, of course we have a balance of news sources in canada, we're civilized after all. Not really. Since we are talking about TV news, lets zero in on that. I learned a simple method by which to judge whether a network is left or right of center or even objective. Take a person that is firmly in one camp, and watch how a particular network reports on him. Take the CBC and Dubya, for instance. Not once did I ever see them report on a story he was in without bias rearing it's ugly head. It got quite comical actually, watching them sneer or report with skepticism that which was fact. And watch how a network reports on, say, Al Gore. The CBC loves him and wants to have his children, and they can't keep their bias out of the reports containing him. The sad thing is, many of the younger people don't even recognize bias when they see it. Networks in Canada are mostly firmly ensconced on the left side of the spectrum, and it does not benefit Canada to have such an imbalance in perspective. Good yardstick. A lot of posters here are on a strict diet of CBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 If they're going to call this thing "Sun News", I doubt it will succeed. The Sun brand of papers is widely viewed as a lightweight news/sports/entertainment page intended to be quick and easy to read on a bus or during breakfast. It's not aimed at people who are interested in serious journalism. People who are interested in lightweight news/sports/entertainment aren't likely to invest much of their TV time in "Sun News" when there's way more entertaining things on TV. Branding it after the Sun chain of papers is going to alienate the people who are most likely to spend their TV time watching a news program. My guess is that branding this after the Sun chain of papers is a big mistake. -k And explains the reason you are not an entrepreneur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 And explains the reason you are not an entrepreneur. I think not...what it doesn't expalin is why Kimmy isn't a branding strategist... Consider the Gap...they know the market is segmented...and there is a whole chunk who avoid the Gap because they feel the prices are high....but they go to Old Navy..and buy pretyy much the same items....the Gap owns Old Navy. The Sun (newspapaers) has a loyal following...but that demographic isn't what you would call a national marketers dream. The Challenge for Sun Media is to attract a new demographic (as opposed to loyal sun readers) to their product....and branding it with "Sun" isn't a good way to do it. I mean, say you are a national food marketer...and you want to sell a premium steak to an urban upper income white collar demographic, would you label it after your best selling brand...if your best selling brand was Meow Mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdogfood Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Seee This!!. My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdogfood Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Than thare is this to!!!. My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted September 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Well, today, the CRTC said no to Sun Media and its "special licence" it wanted. It's nice to know some people can't be bought after all. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukin Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well, today, the CRTC said no to Sun Media and its "special licence" it wanted. It's nice to know some people can't be bought after all. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/ Scared of an opposing voice, aren't you topaz. Let's cut all tax-payer funding for the biased CBC. You won't agree with that because they preach what lefties like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well, today, the CRTC said no to Sun Media and its "special licence" it wanted. It's nice to know some people can't be bought after all. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/ If you have any information that bribery was attempted, you should contact the authorities. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Scared of an opposing voice, aren't you topaz. Let's cut all tax-payer funding for the biased CBC. You won't agree with that because they preach what lefties like. I don't think lefties have much use for the CBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I don't think lefties have much use for the CBC. Ya' gotta remember that ol' Luky thinks that even CTV is "biased"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Ya' gotta remember that ol' Luky thinks that even CTV is "biased"... Some people think if a news source doesn't post "God Bless the West" as part of its title, or use "homicide bombers" rather than "suicide bombers," or spend a lot of time announcing "support the troops" (which in fact they often do)...then the source has a "left-wing bias." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The thing that gets me over this, is the left wing hysteria and attempts to stop it, why are they so afraid of an opposing opinion. Why do they not believe in freedom of speech and media ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I dont believe in news by opinion. i know that's what you think we have, but really it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I dont believe in news by opinion. i know that's what you think we have, but really it isn't. Really it is. Compare Fox news to the CBC. Does the CBC seem neutral? It rarely acknowledges any political point of view that isn't liberal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I don't think lefties have much use for the CBC. That's funny. Who has then? Just the Liberal party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I think not...what it doesn't expalin is why Kimmy isn't a branding strategist... Right. I take it back with, apologies to kimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Seee This!!. My link I thought it was already decided that applying for a business licence wasn't lobbying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Really it is. Compare Fox news to the CBC. Does the CBC seem neutral? It rarely acknowledges any political point of view that isn't liberal. Theres a big difference between an organization with that may have a percieved bias, and an organization like Fox that engages in direct political activity, donates and participates in campaigns, organizes rallies, etc. My guess is the CBC wouldnt be allowed to donate a bunch of money to liberal candidates in various races. I could be wrong though. CNN DOES make political contributions but they claim that each party gets the exact same ammount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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