bloodyminded Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 4. Darth Vader Star Wars Sure, he's cartoony, and yes, the execrable prequels almost ruined him (Darth Vader as a whiny Jedi-child prodigy...god help us). But I saw Star Wars when I was ten, and for the first time, I recognized the joys of movie bad guys, as something more than merely someone to root against. I was baffled that my friends liked Luke or Han Solo the best...when Vader was so much more cool. I was slightly disappointed at his unbelievably abrupt "turn" to the good side at the end of the third movie. I preferred him choking rebels, ferociously berating everybody, and whacking his own men whenever they messed up. Punishment: redemption and a peaceful death. 3. Tommy DeVito GoodFellas I considered Joe Pesci's Nicky Santoro from Casino, but he's almost the same character, so I stuck to the classic. Tommy's viciousness is wondrous to behold. A conversation gone sour has become a classic: "But I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How'm I funny??..." Well, it doesn't translate that well to the page. But everyone who's seen it likely understands the perfection of this scene, much of which was unscripted. Punishment: shot in the head. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. 2. Anton Chigurh No Country For Old Men Almost a force of nature, Anton is so frigging bad-ass that the film's hitman, played by Woody Harrelson, seems positively benign in comparison. Javier Bardem's Chigurh is absolutely ruthless, a kind of rogue gangster who lives, at least to some degree, by a peculiar code based on fate. When a coin-toss favours a would-be victim, Anton mildy congratulates him and leaves. A fifty percent chance of being murdered is, after all, fair, in Anton's world. When he kills Lewellyn Moss's wife, he is a bit baffled by her objections. When she refuses to call the coin toss, he tells her she has to. It's the only fair way, after all. He's also bound by the fact that he promised Moss he would kill his wife. So he does. A promise is a promise. Punishment: Not much. A car accident and an exposed bone. But he can take it. 1. Michael Corleone The Godfather Pacino's trajectory from mild-mannered "good kid" and war hero into a coldly pragmatic murderer is said by some to intentionally echo America's changing self-assessment after the 60's. I don't know about this, but I think that Michael is the ultimate movie villain, in that he hardly seems a bad guy...until the dramatic, house-cleaning murder-spree that closes the film. Ruthless in a supremely sensible way, he signifies the dark truth beneath the veneer of family and conservative values espoused through film portrayals of gangsters, laying the groundwork for even harsher critiques like GoodFellas. Punishment: Ultimately, everything. But in this first film: a betrayal of what he thought he was. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Shwa Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Good villains! With hats off to Dennis Hopper, Frank Booth in Blue Velvet. A total over the top unstable psycho who gives off a sense of familiarity. Creepy. Then there is Anthony Perkins playing Norman Bates in the 1960 version of Psycho. Based on Ed Gein? Brrrr.... The Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector in Silence of the Lambs. Buffalo Bill was simply nuts, but Hannibal was psycho with an incredible intelligence and wit. And good taste apparently. And finally, how about Gaear Grimsrud in Fargo? You could also give honours to Grimsrud's partner Carl Showalter, but he ends up being more pathetic in the end, especially the final disposition of his earthly remains by Gaear - being shot out of a wood chipper on to the lake ice. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bloodyminded Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Posted June 1, 2010 Good villains! With hats off to Dennis Hopper, Frank Booth in Blue Velvet. A total over the top unstable psycho who gives off a sense of familiarity. Creepy. Then there is Anthony Perkins playing Norman Bates in the 1960 version of Psycho. Based on Ed Gein? Brrrr.... The Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector in Silence of the Lambs. Buffalo Bill was simply nuts, but Hannibal was psycho with an incredible intelligence and wit. And good taste apparently. And finally, how about Gaear Grimsrud in Fargo? You could also give honours to Grimsrud's partner Carl Showalter, but he ends up being more pathetic in the end, especially the final disposition of his earthly remains by Gaear - being shot out of a wood chipper on to the lake ice. These are all good. I had indeed thought of Psycho...come to think of it, Perkins definitely belongs. But I can't believe I forgot about Dennis Hopper's Frank--that guy was terrifying. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
kimmy Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 I wrote about Tracy Flick last year. She's either a terrific movie villain, or not a villain at all, depending on your point of view. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
lictor616 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 who stole ze chicken... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Moonlight Graham Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Love Darth Vader. Ivan Drago from Rocky IV is also also the ultimate badass. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
DrGreenthumb Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 I HAD to open this thread to see if Darth Vader was on thlist, and there he was in first place. Good on ya! Vader is the best movie villain of all time. I still hear him breathing in my head every time I think of Star Wars. Quote
kimmy Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 I'm surprised that this thread is nearly 10 posts old and nobody has mentioned The Joker yet. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Moonlight Graham Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 I'm surprised that this thread is nearly 10 posts old and nobody has mentioned The Joker yet. -k True that. But are you talking Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger's Joker? Just kidding. Actually they were both good but Ledger's was off the hook. Great acting and superb script. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
fellowtraveller Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Ben Kingsley as Don in Sexy Beast. The fear just radiates off his former colleagues when they learn that Don is dropping by for a cup of tea. Quote The government should do something.
eyeball Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) Brick-top from the movie Snatch ranks high on my list of favorite villains. Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by a horrible cunt... me. Edited June 4, 2010 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
charter.rights Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Evil Roy Slade (John Astin), of the same movie...... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Jack Weber Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 True that. But are you talking Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger's Joker? Just kidding. Actually they were both good but Ledger's was off the hook. Great acting and superb script. I'm talkin' Cesar Romero in the TV show!!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) Don Alfonso de la Torré (Damien Thomas)...Pirates! (1986) Edited June 2, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wild Bill Posted June 3, 2010 Report Posted June 3, 2010 Who could ever forget the immortal John Lithgow as Dr. Emilio Lizardo in "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai"? "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
DogOnPorch Posted June 3, 2010 Report Posted June 3, 2010 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang's Child Catcher (1968) Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
lictor616 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 Brick-top from the movie Snatch ranks high on my list of favorite villains. oh wholly hell brick-top has to be first... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Jack Weber Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) The French Knight(s) Edited June 4, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
kimmy Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 Brick Top is a great one for sure. -Bill The Butcher from "Gangs of New York" -for sheer campy fun, I think Khan from Star Trek II is a classic. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 Max Cady: Cape Fear (1962/1991) Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted June 4, 2010 Report Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Sam "Ace" Rothstein... Edited June 4, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
AngusThermopyle Posted June 5, 2010 Report Posted June 5, 2010 What. No mention of Alex from A Clockwork Orange yet? The ultimate personification of malevolence and calculated evil, he makes Vader look like a pussy cat in comparison. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
eyeball Posted June 5, 2010 Report Posted June 5, 2010 What. No mention of Alex from A Clockwork Orange yet? The ultimate personification of malevolence and calculated evil, he makes Vader look like a pussy cat in comparison. One Alex was given a hug though he was a pussycat. Recall Frank Cross in Scrooged. Frank Cross: I get it. You're here to show me my past, and I'm supposed to get all dully-eyed and mushy. Well, forget it, pal, you got the wrong guy! Ghost of Christmas Past: That's exactly what Attila the Hun said. But when he saw his mother... Niagara Falls! A real villain has the venal ethos to spit in the face of sentimental regrets right up to the bitter end, like Longshanks in Braveheart. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bloodyminded Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Posted June 6, 2010 I'm surprised that this thread is nearly 10 posts old and nobody has mentioned The Joker yet. -k Yeah....the list could have gone on and on...and in truth, there are a lot of great villains pointed out here. To be fair, at least a top ten list would have been more reasonable (if conventional). That was my original plan, but god love me, I'm a lazy man. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
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