M.Dancer Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 in the face of Dancer's manufactured threats, Here I was thinking you are another garden variety bozo.... So you think I manufactured the threats eh? Your vivid and far out imagination must be a real treat for your parents. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 You have no right to say someone is or is not welcome in this country, in Ottawa or at the a publicly funded university. She was clearly welcome enough for them to rent a hall for people to listen to her (who would rent one for you?). That is sufficient. Coulter is a lot of things but I've seen nothing to indicate she's ever broken any laws or intended to. And if all she's done is to give offense to the intollerent, self-righteous prigs of the left, then good on her. I don't like what she has to say, so I won't ever welcome her into Canada. She is not welcome by me. That is my right. That does not say I have the right to block her from entering the country because others want to hear her rant on. I am simply stating she is not welcome by me. You are right she has not broken any laws, but it seems that more people want to shut her up than let her speak. If we live in a democracy (lols) then that majority won. She does offend, and that is her sole purpose. I don't find any honesty or integrity in a person when that is all they do, stir the pot. And it's not self-righteous, it's self-lefteous !!!! Quote
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 So what, I'm not here to do that. Although, I know it irks you so. I don't consider you a true conservative, by any measure. Right wing perhaps, but not a true conservative. Because I don't consider Joe Clark to be a conservative icon? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 It is completely within his right and I would say Duty to have warned Coulter. The university frequently has ultra left wing extremists speak, including those who support terrorism. I don't think I'm going out on a limb by suggesting he's never bothered to send such a warning to any of them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) seems the UofO students union president presents a different slant this morning... one that has the organizers actively vetting persons before allowing them in to hear Coulter. As described, the organizers design on their brand of free speech was one intended to ensure that Coulter wouldn't face opposing views within the meeting hall. How contrived! As described, the reason the situation began to unravel, was because only 100 of 400 seats were filled and organizers wouldn't allow anyone else in... ah yes, right-wing conservative free speech... but only for the select few. Perhaps the organizers were attempting to prevent people like you and Wyly from going in there with the specific purpose of screaming and shouting and throwing things and shutting down her speech. That is unquestionably what the left wing students intended. Those who showed up without tickets were not being allowed in. There is no evidence that they checked over those who bought tickets to see what their views were. And they clearly allowed those with hostile views to attend at UofWO. Edited March 25, 2010 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 You now read like Anne Coulter on a sedative... I suppose even Coulter can be correct at times. What's with all the lefty wack jobs on this topic with misnamed monikers anyway? Bad enough we hace "Charter rights" who hasn't read it and doesn't believe in them but we've got "born free" earnestly telling us how good it is to suppress freedom. Other people's freedom, of course. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 When liberal speakers are invited to speak, the conservatives don't like it. When conservative speakers are invited to speak, the liberals don't like it. Both sides have some people who protest. Both sides have some people who try to stifle the speaker. Really? I'm still waiting for examples of right wing mobs which shut down speeches in Canada. The last person who suggested this happened hasn't been able to back up his claim. Perhaps you can do better. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 ah that would be a big no Jack.... for the politically illiterate here Oh the irony.... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 nothing stirs people up like the thought of Nazi's and their sympathizers crawling out from under their rocks... According to you there are millions of Nazis in Canada. One wonders how you can sleep at night. Must cower under your window, peeking over the sill, phone in hand, ready to dial the human rights commission if someone wanders by saying something unflattering about Muslims or Indians. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
M.Dancer Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 Even though Dancer receives 2 separate suggestions from 2 separate posters that the UofO's student union president, told separate media (as reported by the separate media), that Coulter's organizers were vetting those allowed into the meeting hall... Allow me to make this a simple as possible for you. Two people repeating the allegations from the same highly prejudiced source is 50% as valid as two people citing two separate highly prejudiced sources...which is to say, practically worthless... So which is it Waldo...did they vet attendees over concerns or did the cancel over concerns aboiut the attendees? One or both of these are false. http://coulterincanada.com/cal.html Here...order tickets and be sure to look very hard for the vetting form Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 You are right she has not broken any laws, but it seems that more people want to shut her up than let her speak. If we live in a democracy (lols) then that majority won. Democracy is not mob rule. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 grow a pair posts someone who is afraid to stand up to the Nazi sympathizers on the from...that's sweet... what scares me is your lack of respect for the rule of law... Uh, point of order, but someone who doesn't know what a Nazi is and doesn't understand the law really shouldn't be deriding others for their "lack of respect". I undertand you're a very frightened little man, however. Blondes can be scary, esepcially if they're tall, and wear black boots, eh Wyly? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 sorry editing out a quote doesn't absolve you from not knowing the law, ignorance is not a permissible excuse... there, your editing is fixed.... Repeating something completely inane makes it so much more intelligent... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 I think we have a winner. I don't think she manufactured the letter, or all the ignorant trash out in the street, or the facebook gathering talking about what they could throw at her... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 But naaa. Hell they even let GWB speak there, without arresting him. A haven for war criminals, ex-nazis and racists. If only all right wingers could be rounded up and arrested, eh, Sb? Then life would be so much better! But you know what, once that happened, Joe Clark, your hero, would actually start to be called a neo-con extremist by the Lefties. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 I'll tell you what though, there IS a difference. Despite the protests in Ottawa, nobody in Canada is calling for the U of WO to be boycotted for allowing her to speak. And they won't if she does talk in Calgary. Nobody in Canadian politics, or the media. That's the difference. So despite this tempest in a teapot, we are more tolerant here. Are you so blindly ignorant you're comparing this second rate political pundit to the president of Iran? Americans have many, many reasons to hate him, starting with the fact his country has been aiding extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill Americans. He is virtually the head of an enemy state. Of course they despise him. But would there be a huge national fuss if some political commentator from Iran spoke at Columbia? Of course not! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 And you know this how? The police seem to disagree with you, and I'm far more willing to accept their intuition than yours. The police made no commentary on the crowd's likely behaviour once Coulter got there, nor what they'd do if they got inside - or if they didn't get inside. That there'd be trouble is inference, but it's pretty reasonable inference. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 There's different views coming out of what happen last night. Coulter, on her website, said something about chairs being thrown and fires light, at least, that is what the interviewer, interviewing the head of the student said. Of course the student laughed and said what, that never happen! So now she on to Calgary, and let see what happens. Will they let her have her free speech to personal attack people. People personally attack others on this web site every day - including you. Why should anyone stop her? At least she's doing it in person. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 They weren't threatening her, but merely informing. I think you and the other Lefties are simply grasping at straws in your desperation to find an excuse to justify your happiness at her free speech being denied. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 well it's confirmed Coulter cancelled her U of C rally for the nazi faithful, moved to less hostile environment...the future looks good for Canada the younger generation has no tolerance for hatemongers... Hate to break this to ya, bubba, but you is the hatemonger. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 oh my gawd! Acne!!! another Dancer reach! But no one should deny your freedom right to attempt to draw/infer word associations, misplaced or not. It's about as far a reach as from your pinky to your thumb. Several others were quoting close variations of the same sort of tripe, horrified, it seems, by the prospect Coulter might say something that might offend or "be hurtful" to ethnics, especially those who like to wear their bedsheets around. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
kimmy Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 My hunch is that if Coulter had really expected violence, she'd have done the talk. Nothing would have been more beneficial to her pocketbook or more damaging to her opponents than if chaos had broken out. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Argus Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) You are right she has not broken any laws, but it seems that more people want to shut her up than let her speak. If we live in a democracy (lols) then that majority won. What do you imagine freedom of speech is there for? Do people need it when they remark on the weather? Do they need it when they compliment each other on their shoes? Free Speech is utterly without importance with regard to speech which everyone agrees and approves of. The only importance for free speech is to protect the speech which offends peoples sensibilities, which angers or outrages, or at least irritates. Free speech is there to protect people with minority views, with odd views, with different views. And no free society stays free for very long without free speech. Those in charge will gradually narrow what is acceptable, and expand on what is offensive to the point there really is no legal way to oppose their beliefs. Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. -- Salman Rushdie Edited March 25, 2010 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Moonlight Graham Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 meh... much ado... She used that to her advantage as well. Any publicity is good publicity. Tell that to Tiger Woods. And OJ. But in this case, its great for her. Especially if she still got paid for the canceled speech. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
wyly Posted March 25, 2010 Report Posted March 25, 2010 the Nazi bitch and her sympathizers run for cover...admittance to the new lair is by pre registration only...oh ya her excuse is increased interest we need a bigger facility even though there are much bigger facilities on Campus...now the Nazi sympathizers can have their rally under a rock, maybe MP rob anders can sneak in by the backdoor, not that being recognized should be a problem no one in his constituency has seen him in years... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
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