Harper to prorogue parliament AGAIN?

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Harper doesn't need to prorogue parliament. The vast majority of Canadians couldn't give a rat's ass whether some Taliban detainees were ruffed up. They care about jobs, jobs, and jobs. That's all right now.

The opposition is wasting its time. This is a complete non-issue.

All members of the House of Commons are in this up to their eyeballs. The public will soon start asking some hard questions about this jobless recovery. It is in fact all about jobs. The jobs have moved to places with lower production costs. That is not simply the fault of the government it is a symptom of the economic reality of a changing global situation. A situation that will not be solved without monetary reforms and domestic investment. The public in this nation are going to start demanding answers.

[nicky10013]

Agreed, although it does indicate that regardless of how much the opposition rants on this issue it has little traction with the public.

Considering he was close to 40% a week or two ago, 34% isn't exactly a great number. At 28% the Liberals are within striking distance. Polls really only dramatically change during a campaign. The next one is going to be downright nasty and it's the opposition that has the ammunition with the utter failure to represent Canadian ideas at Copenhagen to the cover up going on right now in terms of Afghan detainees. Perhaps the Taliban has no traction, but people love it when ministers lie in parliament.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Considering he was close to 40% a week or two ago, 34% isn't exactly a great number. At 28% the Liberals are within striking distance. Polls really only dramatically change during a campaign. The next one is going to be downright nasty and it's the opposition that has the ammunition with the utter failure to represent Canadian ideas at Copenhagen to the cover up going on right now in terms of Afghan detainees. Perhaps the Taliban has no traction, but people love it when ministers lie in parliament.

The polls will swing from day to day, let alone week to week. Each and every little thing contributes to the woes of a government. The only way to provide themselves with a safety blanket is to be operating during "good times".

[Jack Weber]

The issue is no longer if some Taliban members were cuffed around by their own.I suspect they were and frankly,I don't care.The issue is whether the gov't knew about it,hid information,and,broke with The Geneva Conventions guidelines on the teatment of prisoners.In doing so,mislead parliament and the populous at large.The "Cover up" is far worse than the actual crime because it goes to the trust factor.

So...We've got the Agghan detainee issue,potential regional conflict over anything coming out of Copenhagen,and,the HST issue that will go strongly against the Cons in BC and Ontario...And they are falling in the polls...Add in a potential jobless recovery and serious gov't cutbacks in the spring session and things don't look to rosey for the Cons....

[M.Dancer]

The issue is whether the gov't knew about it,hid information,and,broke with The Geneva Conventions guidelines on the teatment of prisoners.

Put your mind at ease, there are no prisoners in Afghanistan that are eligible for protection under the Geneva Conventions, re: prisoners. For that matter, for the same reaon, there are none in Canada either.

[Topaz]

All parties voted on stimulus spending so you don't get to take the high road now. I don't think we'll be listening to the NDP on how to balance the books.

I really don't think Canadians really care if some members of the Taliban were mistreated.

Crippling a rebounding economy will hardy sit well with voters.

Its NOT about the torturing as much its about the lying and the coverup. Again, this government is failing as trust goes. Of course, the voters who suppose the Tories and know exactly what the government is doing and has done, appear to have low moral standards and their only goal is to keep the Tories in no matter what they do!

[eyeball]

The "Cover up" is far worse than the actual crime because it goes to the trust factor.

I recall more than a few Harper supporters defending his broken lie on fixed election dates. The climate debate as well is another case where supporters acknowledge deception, where the appearance of concern is to avoid completely alienating swing voters.

I think this "Cover up" goes more to the transparency factor, but here too its not at all uncommon to find many people shrugging off talk about transparency without action as being necessary to getting elected.

[Sir Bandelot]

Its NOT about the torturing as much its about the lying and the coverup. Again, this government is failing as trust goes. Of course, the voters who suppose the Tories and know exactly what the government is doing and has done, appear to have low moral standards and their only goal is to keep the Tories in no matter what they do!

The chickens are coming home to roost. Hopefully these little Eichmanns will soon be standing in front a judge, and they will get some payback!

[M.Dancer]

Lefties are funny.

[Topaz]

Lefties are funny.

Thanks Dancer,wouldn't you want to be a laughing Lib than a crying frustrate Tory? Just wait until 2010 and after and more money is going out of YOUR pocket to the Feds!

[Sir Bandelot]

Lefties are funny.

Well we need to have a bit more fun around here. I mean, with you constantly going around telling people they are stupid and all.

[blueblood]

Thanks Dancer,wouldn't you want to be a laughing Lib than a crying frustrate Tory? Just wait until 2010 and after and more money is going out of YOUR pocket to the Feds!

I didn't know that the Harper is resigning and the tories are all becoming independants on Jan 1.

[M.Dancer]

Well we need to have a bit more fun around here. I mean, with you constantly going around telling people they are stupid and all.

Telling People? I thought I was just telling you...

[William Ashley]

Canadians are apathetic to the war... fact is the lines are already crossed.. Inhuman hawks could care less, peace lovers will be anti violence anyway... people expect politicians to lie, and it woulnd't be their first time to spout total rubish that some of the public accepts mindlessly.

It won't be prorouged FOR SCANDALOUS REASONS -like last time the election was called it would be PROROUGED TO STOP PARLIAMENT FROM CAUSING ISSUES AT THE OLYMPICS!!!!!

I personally could care less about the fact of torture warcrimes are common place in NATO. What would get me though is the BLOODY COST of a war that will be totally meaningless to Canada as a nation. Let development and private security firms work with the afghan government if it is a cause, leave NATO and Canada as a nation out of it.. it has no place to occupy a quasi nation for cultural reasons.

and if you don't think it is an occupation with nato pulling the strings, you are a moron.

Part of the lie that does bother me though.. Here is the lie - that Canadian troops will be pulled out .. they arn't going to be. They are only being reorganized for support roles - but damn straight they will act to acheive natos mission if they need to. A support role is still a shoot and kill role if needed. Where are they going today? But what if there are enemies there..?? Does this sorta sound like an ability for search and destroy missions?

And what about all that equipment that is being deleted and left behind in Afghanistan - what is that for?

The government is lying to Canada to appease them, but it is just a bottomless money pit for NOTHING. 2017 is not 2011

Edited December 23, 2009 by William Ashley

[Smallc]

It will be prorogued to reorganize the Senate Committees.

[madmax]

Lefties are funny.

You crack me up

[DrGreenthumb]

I heard on the radio this morning that Harper will act like a cowardly bitch (female dog), and run with his little tail between his legs to the governor general today to ask for ANOTHER prorogation of parliament. He seems really frightened that the Afghan commitee will discover the extent of his and Peter MacKay's violations of the Geneva convention. This government is determined to hide the truth from the Canadian people.

[wulf42]

All the Tory members skipped out on the Afghan committee hearing even though 4 had previously confirmed they would attend. It seems that Harper has ordered his MP's to go into to full cover up mode. There must be some really damaging stuff that they would go to such ectremes to suppress it. How will Canadians react if they find out that Harper and MacKay are indeed guilty of violating the Geneva convention?

I've heard that Harper is even thinking of prorogueing parliament again so the

Conservatives can avoid testifying before the committee.

There are far more important issues on the table than what happens to a few Taliban scum! Most Canadians could give a rats ass what happens to those people........only people squawking about it are the Liberals and NDP, and since when does anybody listen to them... ,Obviously not to many considering neither party is doing well in the polls!

Edited December 30, 2009 by wulf42

[Shakeyhands]

There are far more important issues on the table than what happens to a few Taliban scum! Most Canadians could give a rats ass what happens to those people........only people squawking about it are the Liberals and NDP, and since when does anybody listen to them... ,Obviously not to many considering neither party is doing well in the polls!

It's too bad that you people just can't seem to grasp the point. It's disheartening to see how badly some peoples moral compasses are off. God help us.

[wulf42]

It's too bad that you people just can't seem to grasp the point. It's disheartening to see how badly some peoples moral compasses are off. God help us.

And its too bad you can't grasp the fact Canadian soldiers didn't do anything wrong! the Afghan Army may have but so what? The Americans used to hand over VC prisoners to the South Vietnamese Army all the time and they tortured and executed many of those prisoners. Whatever the Afghans do with Al Qaeda or Taliban scum is their business, who cares! they are terrorist's and deserve whatever happens to them....silly Canadians should be more concerned about their own safety as evident with the attempt to blow up another Jet by Al Qaeda than worry about the safety of the people who are trying to kill us!

[Argus]

Well we need to have a bit more fun around here. I mean, with you constantly going around telling people they are stupid and all.

There appears to be ample justification for that here.

[Argus]

Its NOT about the torturing as much its about the lying and the coverup.

Yes, well, unfortunately for you, there seems to be a profound lack of evidence to support your delusionary beliefs.

[Argus]

It will be prorogued to reorganize the Senate Committees.

Wow. Someone who actually reads a newspaper.

[Argus]

And its too bad you can't grasp the fact Canadian soldiers didn't do anything wrong!

Most of these guys are salivating at the prospect the military could be found to have done something wrong. Then they can shout "Ahah!" and all their anti military hatreds can come out into the open. Half the lefties on this topic smile a tight little smug smile of satisfaction every time a Canadian soldier dies.

[bloodyminded]

And its too bad you can't grasp the fact Canadian soldiers didn't do anything wrong! the Afghan Army may have but so what? The Americans used to hand over VC prisoners to the South Vietnamese Army all the time and they tortured and executed many of those prisoners. Whatever the Afghans do with Al Qaeda or Taliban scum is their business, who cares! they are terrorist's and deserve whatever happens to them....silly Canadians should be more concerned about their own safety as evident with the attempt to blow up another Jet by Al Qaeda than worry about the safety of the people who are trying to kill us!

Every detainee is NOT a "terrorist."

As you surely must know.