Saturn Posted December 17, 2006 Report Posted December 17, 2006 If you think the Conservatives are left wing, the only possible conclusion would be that you a fascist. The Conservatives have funded womens groups, have given public $100 welfare payments to all families with kids, they've given funding for more public programs, they have not done anything about our immigration crisis but instead have pandered for votes, they have given money to the Chinese for head tax.. they've gone spending crazy. You were the first to approve of that. Quote
Remiel Posted December 17, 2006 Report Posted December 17, 2006 Did you completely miss the first part of my post, or are you just be willfully ignorant? It addresses your issues. Quote
Saturn Posted December 17, 2006 Report Posted December 17, 2006 For the two axes to truly be different dimensions, you have to explain what distinguishes Left Economics from Right Economics while keeping the level of Authoritarianism constant -- which can not be done. You cannot put two different dimensions on one axis. The test measures two different dimensions, therefore it uses two axes. What's your problem with that? Quote
mikedavid00 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Posted December 17, 2006 You were the first to approve of that. I approve of it from a political stategy like a hockey lineup to win a game. But it's not acting on behalf of the Canadian people. It's just pandering for votes so he can win. I hate Mulrouney... just thought I would mention that. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
Charles Anthony Posted December 17, 2006 Report Posted December 17, 2006 You cannot put two different dimensions on one axis. The test measures two different dimensions, therefore it uses two axes. What's your problem with that?The problem is that the two axes are NOT measuring independent things. I am saying that Left/Right in economics involves authoritarianism. Here is a problem for you: Try to show me how you can move Left/Right on an Economic level while staying the same along the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Saturn Posted December 17, 2006 Report Posted December 17, 2006 You cannot put two different dimensions on one axis. The test measures two different dimensions, therefore it uses two axes. What's your problem with that?The problem is that the two axes are NOT measuring independent things. I am saying that Left/Right in economics involves authoritarianism. I guess you will have to take a random sample of people, measure them and then show that the two are not independent before you can claim it. Even if they are not independent, they are not perfectly correlated and the second axis provides additional information. In fact, two dimensional graphs are typically used to show a relationship/or lack of it between two factors. Height and weight are related too but what gives you more information - a graph of height vs weight or a graph of height only? Quote
August1991 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Posted February 17, 2007 With all the new posters on this forum, it's time to bring this thread to the top again. New here? Do the test below. It's fun and takes about five minutes. Then post your results (Economic Left/Right) and (Social Libertarian/Authoritarian) in this thread. Political Compass Test ---- Later, check out the following link to see the mapping of other posters. If you post your results here, you'll be added to the graph. Quote
jdobbin Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 With all the new posters on this forum, it's time to bring this thread to the top again.New here? Do the test below. It's fun and takes about five minutes. Then post your results (Economic Left/Right) and (Social Libertarian/Authoritarian) in this thread. Political Compass Test ---- Later, check out the following link to see the mapping of other posters. If you post your results here, you'll be added to the graph. I must have been left off the last addition. Quote
leonardcohen Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Economic Left/Right 1.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian 1.64 This is a cool test,I'm pretty well where i expected to be. The second test puts me right in downtown Centerville,almost Bullseye,Who knew? Quote Whatever Thy Hand Finds To Do- Do With All Thy Might!
PolyNewbie Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 I am a left leaning libertarian. Its funny that I get labled as a lefty of this forum when I am never in that kind of debate. Just because I think society has gone corrupt does not mean that I am a left winger. I am a paleo conservative. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
August1991 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Posted February 17, 2007 Well, I did this test (again) after a glass of wine or two this time and here's what I got: Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79 Quote
August1991 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Posted February 17, 2007 I am a left leaning libertarian.What were your numbers? Quote
geoffrey Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Well, I did this test (again) after a glass of wine or two this time... Seems like your becoming more socialist August, wasn't French wine you were drinking? My previous result: Economic Left/Right: 5.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.97 Result today (also after having two... maybe three glasses of the red stuff): Economic Left/Right: 6.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82 More to the right economically, more to the left (down in this case) socially. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Slavik44 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 seeing as how today seems to be the day of the retest.... Economic Left/Right: 2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13 Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
Charles Anthony Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 I guess you will have to take a random sample of people,No. You will have to understand exactly what the axes measure. Height and weight are related too but what gives you more information - a graph of height vs weight or a graph of height only?Your analogy is inappropriate. Answer these questions: What does increasing (or decreasing) values along the "Economic" axis represent? What does increasing (or decreasing) values along the "Authoritarian" axis represent? There should only be on axis in this test. I say the "Authoritarian" one because your "Economic" behavior -- as questioned in this test -- is a manifestation of authoritarianism. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Who's Doing What? Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Wow! What a fanatical Lefty I am. Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -1.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05 Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
geoffrey Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 There should only be on axis in this test. I say the "Authoritarian" one because your "Economic" behavior -- as questioned in this test -- is a manifestation of authoritarianism. That's a possibility. I see where your coming from, that a truly open market would have equal rights for all those that participate in it, and the freedom of the market would decide social policies. But that's highly idealistic. You can have a moderately free market such as in Canada, but still many restrictions on your social activities. I think in the current state of affairs, both axes are neccessary. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Canadian Blue Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 My previous test on Compass: Economic Left/Right: -5.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18 My present result: Economic Left/Right: -6.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51 I'm close to Ghandi ,Nelson Mandela, and the Dalai Lama, and I don't really mind that. I am a paleo conservative. So your basically in the same camp with Pat Buchanan, Samuel Francis, and Thomas Fleming. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Figleaf Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Figleaf political compass Economic Left/Right: -2.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79 Quote
apollo19 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Posted February 17, 2007 Your political compass Economic Left/Right: 2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85 Compared to last time, I moved down a bit and stayed about the same economically. Quote
August1991 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Posted April 19, 2007 With all the new posters on this forum, it's time to bring this thread to the top again. New here? Do the test below. It's fun and takes about five minutes. Then post your results (Economic Left/Right) and (Social Libertarian/Authoritarian) in this thread. Political Compass Test ---- Later, check out the following link to see the mapping of other posters. If you post your results here, you'll be added to the graph. Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Economic Left/Right: -1.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51 ...What ever that means, unfortunately, there was no "Don't give shit" button....how can it say there's no wrong answer if you have no option for apathy.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Martin Chriton Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 My score: Economic Left/Right: -0.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.26 Quote
buffycat Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 What the heck - Economic Left/Right: - 5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: - 5.68 Last time I took this I was about -4 on each. Seems I'm drifting...but in a good way! Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
rover1 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Econ l/r .88 Social Lib/Auth -1.85 Close to centre Quote
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