Saturn Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 If you think the Conservatives are left wing, the only possible conclusion would be that you a fascist. The Conservatives have funded womens groups, have given public $100 welfare payments to all families with kids, they've given funding for more public programs, they have not done anything about our immigration crisis but instead have pandered for votes, they have given money to the Chinese for head tax.. they've gone spending crazy. You were the first to approve of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Did you completely miss the first part of my post, or are you just be willfully ignorant? It addresses your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 For the two axes to truly be different dimensions, you have to explain what distinguishes Left Economics from Right Economics while keeping the level of Authoritarianism constant -- which can not be done. You cannot put two different dimensions on one axis. The test measures two different dimensions, therefore it uses two axes. What's your problem with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedavid00 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 You were the first to approve of that. I approve of it from a political stategy like a hockey lineup to win a game. But it's not acting on behalf of the Canadian people. It's just pandering for votes so he can win. I hate Mulrouney... just thought I would mention that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 You cannot put two different dimensions on one axis. The test measures two different dimensions, therefore it uses two axes. What's your problem with that?The problem is that the two axes are NOT measuring independent things. I am saying that Left/Right in economics involves authoritarianism. Here is a problem for you: Try to show me how you can move Left/Right on an Economic level while staying the same along the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 You cannot put two different dimensions on one axis. The test measures two different dimensions, therefore it uses two axes. What's your problem with that?The problem is that the two axes are NOT measuring independent things. I am saying that Left/Right in economics involves authoritarianism. I guess you will have to take a random sample of people, measure them and then show that the two are not independent before you can claim it. Even if they are not independent, they are not perfectly correlated and the second axis provides additional information. In fact, two dimensional graphs are typically used to show a relationship/or lack of it between two factors. Height and weight are related too but what gives you more information - a graph of height vs weight or a graph of height only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 With all the new posters on this forum, it's time to bring this thread to the top again. New here? Do the test below. It's fun and takes about five minutes. Then post your results (Economic Left/Right) and (Social Libertarian/Authoritarian) in this thread. Political Compass Test ---- Later, check out the following link to see the mapping of other posters. If you post your results here, you'll be added to the graph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 With all the new posters on this forum, it's time to bring this thread to the top again.New here? Do the test below. It's fun and takes about five minutes. Then post your results (Economic Left/Right) and (Social Libertarian/Authoritarian) in this thread. Political Compass Test ---- Later, check out the following link to see the mapping of other posters. If you post your results here, you'll be added to the graph. I must have been left off the last addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardcohen Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Economic Left/Right 1.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian 1.64 This is a cool test,I'm pretty well where i expected to be. The second test puts me right in downtown Centerville,almost Bullseye,Who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolyNewbie Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 I am a left leaning libertarian. Its funny that I get labled as a lefty of this forum when I am never in that kind of debate. Just because I think society has gone corrupt does not mean that I am a left winger. I am a paleo conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Well, I did this test (again) after a glass of wine or two this time and here's what I got: Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 I am a left leaning libertarian.What were your numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Well, I did this test (again) after a glass of wine or two this time... Seems like your becoming more socialist August, wasn't French wine you were drinking? My previous result: Economic Left/Right: 5.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.97 Result today (also after having two... maybe three glasses of the red stuff): Economic Left/Right: 6.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82 More to the right economically, more to the left (down in this case) socially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavik44 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 seeing as how today seems to be the day of the retest.... Economic Left/Right: 2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 I guess you will have to take a random sample of people,No. You will have to understand exactly what the axes measure. Height and weight are related too but what gives you more information - a graph of height vs weight or a graph of height only?Your analogy is inappropriate. Answer these questions: What does increasing (or decreasing) values along the "Economic" axis represent? What does increasing (or decreasing) values along the "Authoritarian" axis represent? There should only be on axis in this test. I say the "Authoritarian" one because your "Economic" behavior -- as questioned in this test -- is a manifestation of authoritarianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who's Doing What? Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Wow! What a fanatical Lefty I am. Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -1.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 There should only be on axis in this test. I say the "Authoritarian" one because your "Economic" behavior -- as questioned in this test -- is a manifestation of authoritarianism. That's a possibility. I see where your coming from, that a truly open market would have equal rights for all those that participate in it, and the freedom of the market would decide social policies. But that's highly idealistic. You can have a moderately free market such as in Canada, but still many restrictions on your social activities. I think in the current state of affairs, both axes are neccessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Blue Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 My previous test on Compass: Economic Left/Right: -5.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18 My present result: Economic Left/Right: -6.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51 I'm close to Ghandi ,Nelson Mandela, and the Dalai Lama, and I don't really mind that. I am a paleo conservative. So your basically in the same camp with Pat Buchanan, Samuel Francis, and Thomas Fleming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figleaf Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Figleaf political compass Economic Left/Right: -2.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo19 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Your political compass Economic Left/Right: 2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85 Compared to last time, I moved down a bit and stayed about the same economically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 With all the new posters on this forum, it's time to bring this thread to the top again. New here? Do the test below. It's fun and takes about five minutes. Then post your results (Economic Left/Right) and (Social Libertarian/Authoritarian) in this thread. Political Compass Test ---- Later, check out the following link to see the mapping of other posters. If you post your results here, you'll be added to the graph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Economic Left/Right: -1.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51 ...What ever that means, unfortunately, there was no "Don't give shit" button....how can it say there's no wrong answer if you have no option for apathy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Chriton Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 My score: Economic Left/Right: -0.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffycat Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 What the heck - Economic Left/Right: - 5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: - 5.68 Last time I took this I was about -4 on each. Seems I'm drifting...but in a good way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover1 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Econ l/r .88 Social Lib/Auth -1.85 Close to centre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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