jdobbin Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 http://www.homelesscons.com/ For conservatives in Canada, the United States and Britain who don't feel at home in "conservative" parties. There is hope for some of the unhappy conservatives out there. John Robson, formerly of the Reform party is trying to start up a new conservative party in Canada. What conservatives here are ready to drop Harper to join it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 http://www.homelesscons.com/There is hope for some of the unhappy conservatives out there. John Robson, formerly of the Reform party is trying to start up a new conservative party in Canada. What conservatives here are ready to drop Harper to join it? Will you be joining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visionseeker Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 http://www.homelesscons.com/There is hope for some of the unhappy conservatives out there. John Robson, formerly of the Reform party is trying to start up a new conservative party in Canada. What conservatives here are ready to drop Harper to join it? Hum, is a circular firing squad beginning to form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Hum, is a circular firing squad beginning to form? circle jerk, perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 circle jerk, perhaps no that would be a liberal feel good hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Will you be joining? Why would I be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I checked it out but found it not so easy to navigate. It seems more like a big blog page than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progressive Tory Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) I checked it out but found it not so easy to navigate. It seems more like a big blog page than anything. Actually this is not anything new, though comments from many Conservatives reveal that they are not happy with the present Conservative Party in Canada, but feel they have no place else to go. I'd give it a look see, so long as they were strong on the conservative principles that I adhered to, like fiscal responsibility, accountability, smaller gov't and an elected senate. However, if they were instead just strong social conservatives, I'd have to pass. I firmly believe in the separation of church and state. I've bookmarked the site though and won't pass judgement until I read their platform or goals. Stephen Harper has been a huge disappointment. Edited April 3, 2009 by Progressive Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85RZ500 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 PT, go look at the Canadian Charter and read the first couple of lines. Or call your god, the Convenient Canadian and have him change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 What I did see was a bit too much emphasis on social conservatism. IMO, government is $ manager first and foremost. Give me a prudent, conservative manager of tax $, and the ones who seek to micromanage my life, whether by way of Leftish collectivism, or Rightish regimentation, can go to the depths of Hell and enjoy the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Actually this is not anything new, though comments from many Conservatives reveal that they are not happy with the present Conservative Party in Canada, but feel they have no place else to go. I'd give it a look see, so long as they were strong on the conservative principles that I adhered to, like fiscal responsibiluty, accountability, smaller gov't and an elected senate. However, if they were instead just strong social conservatives, I'd have to pass. I firmly believe in the separation of church and state. I've bookmarked the site though and won't pass judgement until I read their platform or goals. Stephen Harper has been a huge disappointment. Five posters is many conservatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Actually this is not anything new, though comments from many Conservatives reveal that they are not happy with the present Conservative Party in Canada, but feel they have no place else to go. I'd give it a look see, so long as they were strong on the conservative principles that I adhered to, like fiscal responsibiluty, accountability, smaller gov't and an elected senate. However, if they were instead just strong social conservatives, I'd have to pass. I firmly believe in the separation of church and state. I've bookmarked the site though and won't pass judgement until I read their platform or goals. Stephen Harper has been a huge disappointment. Interestingly enough i agree with everything you're saying here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I'd give it a look see, so long as they were strong on the conservative principles that I adhered to, You have not shown, thus far, in all your many postings on a myriad of subjects, that you have now or have ever had ANY conservative principles or beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Actually this is not anything new, though comments from many Conservatives reveal that they are not happy with the present Conservative Party in Canada, but feel they have no place else to go. I'd give it a look see, so long as they were strong on the conservative principles that I adhered to, like fiscal responsibiluty, accountability, smaller gov't and an elected senate. However, if they were instead just strong social conservatives, I'd have to pass. I firmly believe in the separation of church and state. I've bookmarked the site though and won't pass judgement until I read their platform or goals. Stephen Harper has been a huge disappointment. Why do you continue with the pretence that you are anything but a profound Liberal hack? Do you think you are fooling anybody with this nonsense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progressive Tory Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Five posters is many conservatives? I wasn't referring to the posters on the new attempt at reviving the Reform Party, just disillusionment in general. You can read it on blogs and comments at the end of on-line newspaper articles. The demise of the Conservative movement of Canada has been a hot topic lately. This is just one: The death of the Conservative agenda There's a hilarious right-wing talking point making the rounds on talk radio to explain why the Conservatives brought in a great lumbering leviathan of a left-wing budget this week: The Liberals made them do it. You can't blame the true believers for trying. After all, Jan. 27 marked the death of the Harper agenda and the end of a 21-year quest to bring genuine conservative policy to bear on this country. I can find many more but I suspect you've already read them. I wasn't talking about the five posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progressive Tory Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 You have not shown, thus far, in all your many postings on a myriad of subjects, that you have now or have ever had ANY conservative principles or beliefs. You obviously haven't read many of my posts. I don't believe in the silly notion of a Christian Revolution as being 'conservative'. It's a 'revolution' against most of our established institutions. Anti-Tory by any definition. I supported the PCs for most elections until they folded. The direction the Party has gone since, is a complete 180 of a fiscally conservative platform. Gov't waste, appointed senators, 'bailouts'... to name just a few. We don't really have a conservative party in Canada anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progressive Tory Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 IMO, government is $ manager first and foremost. Give me a prudent, conservative manager of tax $, That's the basis of conservatism in gov't. I want a party that thinks like that. I can decide for myself on moral issues and so far haven't done half bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 You obviously haven't read many of my posts. I don't believe in the silly notion of a Christian Revolution as being 'conservative'. It's a 'revolution' against most of our established institutions. Anti-Tory by any definition. I supported the PCs for most elections until they folded. The direction the Party has gone since, is a complete 180 of a fiscally conservative platform. Gov't waste, appointed senators, 'bailouts'... to name just a few. We don't really have a conservative party in Canada anymore. You left long before that, that is the last 6 months, you were voting NDP since mulrooney left office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 http://www.homelesscons.com/There is hope for some of the unhappy conservatives out there. John Robson, formerly of the Reform party is trying to start up a new conservative party in Canada. What conservatives here are ready to drop Harper to join it? You'd just love to see a split party again, so the Liberals can come up the middle eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Actually this is not anything new, though comments from many Conservatives reveal that they are not happy with the present Conservative Party in Canada, but feel they have no place else to go.Since when have true activists ever been happy in any established party? The perfect is always the enemy of the good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 You'd just love to see a split party again, so the Liberals can come up the middle eh? The more the merrier! About time they learned to work with diverse groups of people who really represent the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 The more the merrier!About time they learned to work with diverse groups of people who really represent the people. Exactly. Some people rubbed their hands with glee with the Green party winning more votes and said that it would keep the Tories in power forever. Personally, I'd rather have people who were dissatisfied or felt disenfranchised in their own party. If some people who voted Conservative last election feel this way, many won't feel like voting for the other party choices. It makes more sense that they start their own party that reflects their values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc1765 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 If only there were a place for unhappy liberals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 If only there were a place for unhappy liberals... There is. In power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noahbody Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I supported the PCs for most elections until they folded. The direction the Party has gone since, is a complete 180 of a fiscally conservative platform. In fairness, it is the direction of the minority government. If Harper governs like he has a majority, he gets criticized for it. If he provides massive bailouts that the other parties demand, he gets criticized for it. Gov't waste, appointed senators, 'bailouts'... to name just a few. We don't really have a conservative party in Canada anymore. Well, he did save billions that would have been given away with kyoto. If that isn't waste, I don't know what it. Again, if they had a majority, I doubt we'd see all the spending/waste. Every time they try to make a cut, they hate women or the Arts. And the opposition claims they'll restore funding/waste. It's a ridiculous minority government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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