guyser Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 ...it is only slightly better than watching an infomercial at 3AM. Slightly? You dont get those bikini clad girl commercials at 3am? The commercials are far better., why almost educational....almost. Quote
benny Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Doug Benson didn't know Canadians were in a fight in Afghanistan. Everybody should learn that secrecy is an integral part of good military operations. Edited March 25, 2009 by benny Quote
Army Guy Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 Mostly, they want us to buy arms because they make so much money selling them. They're not worried we're going to become more powerful than them Thats the best you can come up with, because they want to make a few bucks off of us. has nothing to do with entering a defence agreement and pulling our share of those responsabilities...Nobody is worried about Canada becoming a world military super power, what they are concerned is Canada doing it's share in the defence of North America... You're mostly wrong. I was talking about history in general, not the war of 1812. Give us an example or do you have one. What military attack? Who? Being able to detect any military attack would be a nice asset for our nation to pocess, would it not. being able to do any other asset. Seeing how it is in our constition and one of the things our government must provide... Just saying it won't happen does not garentee anything and would not be much comfort to those effected by such an attack if it did happen. sticking our heads in the sand and hoping it does not happen is not what i would call reseasonable government. Maybe if we just stopped attacking 3rd world countries, the terrorists would be less motivated to come here. And if they don't then what....last time i heard just under 30 Canadians died in 9/11, guess it was there fault for working in the US, or leaving Canada....where do we draw the line in protection of Canadain citizens....where do we draw the line in regards to our defence agreements. Are you for real? The US military is going to save us from natural disasters? Maybe someone should have told them about Katrina. Yes i'm for real, during the last Winnipeg flood US military forces assisted us in many different rescue and relief areas...not to mention the Major ICE storm. do you real think our government could respond to a major earth quake or katrina of our own....even if every last member of the CF deployed we would be still cleaning up katrina and what a tragic day that would be be.... Organized crime is there mostly because of drug prohibition. Drug prohibition is there mostly because of the knuckle-dragging right wing refused to address reality. Most of the knuckle-dragging right wing is in the US. And since when did the US military fight organized crime? Your true colors are showing, military forces from both sides have been used in combating org crime for years, shit CF-18 have forced down drug planes, naval ships have siezed drug boatas, or ships involved in hauling illigal human traffic....not to mention the wpns trading market....As you know the RCMP and CSIS are also part of our nations security and defence, all of which are under equiped....so there is alot of lending of capabilites...including across our borders... It's really not all that easy to sit here and watch trillions of dollars wasted on high tech machinery specifically built to kill people. Or all that easy to see minds poisoned to the point where people are willing to run off to foreign lands and destroy countries. All for the sake of mindless paranoia Ever since man has flaen out of the trees we been killing each other, or spending most of our time and energy designing new wpns. and until we invent something that enforces peace to break out and group hugs all around...there will always be a need for a military. Hans Island is a small pile of rock in the middle of nowhere. It is disputed territory, with both Canada and Denmark claiming ownership so your claim that this is Sovereign Canadain (sic) terroritory is a matter of dispute. Thankfully, Canada and Denmark have agreed to go to arbitration instead of starting a war over it. BTW, Denmark is our NATO ally. Also, AFAIK, we still have a territory dispute with the US around 54'40" Might be different if Hans island was sitting on top of the worlds largest oil deposit, it is still in Canadian waters it still part of north america, it's still on our maps of Canada....are you sugeesting because it is disputed it belongs to no one...what if they claim the entire north... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
madmax Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 Ever since man has flaen out of the trees we been killing each other, or spending most of our time and energy designing new wpns.and until we invent something that enforces peace to break out and group hugs all around...there will always be a need for a military. So very true. BTW FOX NEWS SUCKS!!! Quote
benny Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 So very true. BTW FOX NEWS SUCKS!!! By deriding the Canadian army for wanting a break, FOX was only acknowledging that there is always a need for a military. Quote
kimmy Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 Ever since man has flaen out of the trees we been killing each other, or spending most of our time and energy designing new wpns. "Humans have been trying to kill each other off since the beginning of time, now we finally have the technology to finish the job." -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
benny Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 To function as a war deterrent, a state has to be public about its readiness to use its armed forces. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 Personally i think is such a non-issue. I could give a crap what FOX thinks of Canada. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
tango Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I absolutely agree. They can say whatever they like about Canada. But they disrespected our troops. That's different. It deserved our outrage. Gotta defend the soldiers. They defend us. It's all just free speech. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I absolutely agree.They can say whatever they like about Canada. They did..... But they disrespected our troops. As do many Canadians..... That's different.It deserved our outrage. Outrage noted... Gotta defend the soldiers.They defend us. Then stop underfunding them.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) I absolutely agree.They can say whatever they like about Canada. But they disrespected our troops. That's different. It deserved our outrage. Gotta defend the soldiers. They defend us. It's all just free speech. A general should never say publicly his soldiers need a break. He should be wise enough to cipher his message by saying that his army needs fresh recruits. Fox was giving Canada tough love in tough times. Edited March 28, 2009 by benny Quote
Army Guy Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 A general should never say publicly his soldiers need a break. He should be wise enough to cipher his message by saying that his army needs fresh recruits. Fox was giving Canada tough love in tough times. Generals and CDS for over 20 years now have been quitely passing this very message to our government, and to it's citizens....i don't think there is one Canadian out there that DOES NOT know the state our military is in....and yet it is like we have to embrass everyone into doing something or as in most cases Canadian soldiers have to die in order to get a few purchases made.....For Canadians it's all about money....and nothing about defence requirements....if there is no money left over then there is no money for defence....unlike most other nations... Our soldiers where not pissed off at those remarks because most of them where true....Ordinary Canadians where caught once again neglecting thier armed forces, and now are pissed because some American had the nerve to piont it out.. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 Anyways this will be my last post for a little while, got word i'm packing my kit up and heading home soon, very soon....going to have some time off and get reaquianted with my family....and Canada's winter wonder land....it's going to be great...while i sat down in front of my lap top smashing the keys with my big fat fingers trying to figure what to say.....I am very excited about returning home, it now consumes my every thought, but strangely i will miss this place...the smells, the mad minutes, the life style, the people, the country...And i will count my blessings of just how funtunite i am to be a part of a world class military, and a world class country....and to have served with some of the finest men and women in the world... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
benny Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 Generals and CDS for over 20 years now have been quitely passing this very message to our government, and to it's citizens....i don't think there is one Canadian out there that DOES NOT know the state our military is in....and yet it is like we have to embrass everyone into doing something or as in most cases Canadian soldiers have to die in order to get a few purchases made.....For Canadians it's all about money....and nothing about defence requirements....if there is no money left over then there is no money for defence....unlike most other nations...Our soldiers where not pissed off at those remarks because most of them where true....Ordinary Canadians where caught once again neglecting thier armed forces, and now are pissed because some American had the nerve to piont it out.. Yes. I think that too much Canadians believe that because we have undefeatable natural borders (three oceans) we don't need an army. Quote
Army Guy Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 Yes. I think that too much Canadians believe that because we have undefeatable natural borders (three oceans) we don't need an army. Undefeatable natural borders is a myth, serveral nations have gone out of thier way to prove that fact to Canadians and yet they won't listen... Bin Labin proved that fact with 9/11, Russians have on several occasions placed military troops on Canada's northern areas, plus placed a Russian flag under the ice in our waters, Denmark has also done the same with Hans Island.. but if it does not mess with Canadians lives they don't care, about anything defence related. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
benny Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 Undefeatable natural borders is a myth, serveral nations have gone out of thier way to prove that fact to Canadians and yet they won't listen...Bin Labin proved that fact with 9/11, Russians have on several occasions placed military troops on Canada's northern areas, plus placed a Russian flag under the ice in our waters, Denmark has also done the same with Hans Island.. but if it does not mess with Canadians lives they don't care, about anything defence related. But I think that the enemy within will always be our worst enemy. Quote
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