DogOnPorch Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 In a typical display, rioters turn their anger against Swedish police and property. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlPo2EObceI A crowd of more than 7,000 turned out to protest Israel playing Sweden in the Davis Cup of Tennis. But it wasn't long before the protest turned ugly, with rioters throwing rocks, bottles, fireworks, etc at police. The game had to be played without an audience in the stands as the Swedish police couldn't guarantee the safety of the Israeli tennis squad. Malmo is well known for its violent riots involving mainly immigrant Muslims who literally control the city. Police, paramedics and firemen claim many sections of the city are 'no-go' areas where they get attacked as they try to do their jobs. Perhaps a stupid place to hold the Davis Cup in the first place...(?) Your opinion... --------------------------- It's a Daisy. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Question - did Israel hold the high moral ground in the way they conducted themselves recently regarding the Palistinians? Most rational persons can safely say that the behaviour was over the top and facistically brutal. If rational people see this - It is easy for those that are less rational to grasp the concept and riot. This is very dangerous - Israel is not fully aware - that what happened in the past can happen again. This is not a question of Jew vs Gentile or Muslim - it is a question of right vs. wrong - and I believe that Israel was wrong - and the protective cloak of the poor persecuted Jew is not going to cut it - People have had enough of America supporting and manipulating Israel and Israel in turn attempting to manipulate the middle east. America must not really care of the Jews - because if they did - they would make sure that the behaviour was up to civilized international standards. Israel is like a daughter that is a harlot - and America is like the mother that never corrects the dauther - because being a whore is part of the distaff tradion of the family...You are either wrong or right - and America and Israel are wrong - people for the most part do not hate with out being stimulated by some offence or injustice. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 ...You are either wrong or right - and America and Israel are wrong - people for the most part do not hate with out being stimulated by some offence or injustice. You are ignoring the prime directive....does Israel still exist? Keep the moral convictions at home...at least until your own house can withstand such stones. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 You are ignoring the prime directive....does Israel still exist? Keep the moral convictions at home...at least until your own house can withstand such stones. Okay let em fight - to hell with all of them.....now number one - make it so - we are out of here! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Okay let em fight - to hell with all of them.....now number one - make it so - we are out of here! Fighting is so....natural !! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Fighting is so....natural !! Once in a while I mention that big shot I talk too..He is a very wise old guy that has seen it all - and I will quote him "Some people don't want to be saved". Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Posted March 8, 2009 Their behaviour was barbaric. Period. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
ironstone Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 I think the protesters are the stupid one's.Peaceful protests are fine,but all too often they resort to violence. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Their behaviour was barbaric. Period. There is private and well hidden internal barbarism - and their is public outward barbarism. From you point of view if you are a sob...and polite - you are better than the honest man who raises his voice and fist..both are barbarians. Quote
eyeball Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Their behaviour was barbaric. Period. Violence doesn't help anyone alright. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Violence doesn't help anyone alright. There are provocateurs who intice the naive to violence. The masses are always controled though emotion - look at the Obama phenomena. Once you move a person to violence you control that person - as for this protest - some individual organized it and some individual manipulated the mob - If we had real intelligence services who were skilled and wise - they could find the seed of such problems and stomp on that. Once you are moved to violence you are finished..the group participating in violence loses as does the target of the hate...."violence doesn't help anyone." What makes one think that the protestors or the Israelis wanted to help someone - evidently both sides are not helpful and working their way to helplessness. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Posted March 8, 2009 Still you gotta wonder what brainiac said... "Hey...why not hold the Davis Cup in Malmo?" ------------------------------ I remember youuuuuuu-uuuu... ---Slim Whitman Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 No kidding, damn near as silly as "hey...why not drop Isreal right on top of Palestine"? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Posted March 8, 2009 No kidding, damn near as silly as "hey...why not drop Isreal right on top of Palestine"? Yer point being? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Yer point being? Point might be that we will see that under of the dropped house of Israel will be a pair of feet wearing stripped socks...or vise versa. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Violence doesn't help anyone alright. Not true....just ask Gary Bettman. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2009 Report Posted March 8, 2009 Not true....just ask Gary Bettman. Violence in nature is a crazed wolf killing another wolf and taking it's food and mate - human beings are not like that.....wait ----- Iraq...they have oil - lets go wage some violence on them and say we are giving them freedom..perfect! Quote
GostHacked Posted March 9, 2009 Report Posted March 9, 2009 Fighting is so....natural !! Only to the idiots. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 9, 2009 Report Posted March 9, 2009 No kidding, damn near as silly as "hey...why not drop Isreal right on top of Palestine"? I was thinking this as I read the opening post, I thought I'd have to be the one to say it .... you made my day. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Posted March 10, 2009 No kidding, damn near as silly as "hey...why not drop Isreal right on top of Palestine"? That there was no 'Palestine' at the time (or ever, really) makes no difference to some, apparently. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 Only to the idiots. I guess the smart people let others do the fighting for them? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 I guess the smart people let others do the fighting for them? Like sitting at a bar - on your left is a big tough with his cash laying in front of him. On your right is the same...I in the middle whisper to the guy on the left - "The guy too the right of me says you have sex with your mother" - then I turn to the person on my right and say "The guy beside me says you are a thief" All hell breaks loose and they beat the crap out of each other. Both lay on the floor bleeding...I pick up the cash from both sides and leave. I believe that is the eccence of Machinavelian politics. That's why you never trust a person who has a copy of Art of War on his desk along with Dante`s Inferno. Don't ask me how that connects because I don't have a clue - and B C you should hear what Ignatieff has to say about you when he gets a few drinks into him... Quote
GostHacked Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) I guess the smart people let others do the fighting for them? Indeed, the so called 'smart' ones are called politicians. and the rest are called the military services. Edited March 10, 2009 by GostHacked Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Posted March 10, 2009 This was the third major confrontation in Malmo since January. The riot in January involved a pro-Israeli demonstration (with permit) being attacked by Muslim immigrants and their supporters. Rocks, bottles and fireworks thrown at peaceful pro-Israeli Swedes and their families (including Holocaust survivors apparently)...classy. Article: 'People can finally see the hatred' for Jews in Malmö Vid highlights of January riot. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 It's what happens when you let in too many Muslims from places where toilets are considered magic fountains. Malmo a haven of crime and violence Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.