mikedavid00 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Why don't we have more kids? Well.. I'm a tax paying newly married Canadian who works in the private sector and who is not part of a union. Neither is me wife. We both have to work full time. We plan on having 2 kids max. I would be happy with 1 child. But why don't we have more kids? Lets talk about the REAL reasons. The reasons that do NOT incude the gov't. Lets sit back and immagine. To have 3 kids we need... - A big house. Not a 1250 sq. ft. semi that costs $400,000 all because immigrants come here, buy homes, and drive up housing prices. The house should have a huge, massive yard, large inside, huge kitchen and lots of space for the whole family. Something like this: http://www.move2raleigh.com/images/779471%20copy.jpg This home is 3700 sq. ft. and sold for $274,900 in NC. Ah yes.. maybe that's one of the reason why North Carolin'ins have more kids. Think that could be? - Good pay. A degree should garuntee you an above average, white collar job. Same with diploma. Hey that house above was $274k. That is for the laborers and factory workers. The people that went through the expense of education should be living in: http://www.usaens.com/images/dbwanner.com/...ages/266785.jpg You think I'm joking but I'm serious. This is the quality of lives that we SHOULD be living. Now. Suppose we had access to these home prices, and our pay was increased and TAXES LOWERED. How many kids would you have? Be honest. You would have at least 3. I know I would. When you allow +300,000 people into your country a year with free education and no jobs, when there is high unemployement rate, when there is too much education, and when every family buys a home (while not working), it does nothing but drives up the housing prices. The more people that buy houses in a specific area - The higher the prices. The more people that apply for a single job: 1) The lower the pay. 2) The more credentials are required. The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. Read that again. If you don't get it take your time to see what immigration really does in Canada: The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. When you live in a shoebox, paying a premium price, the LAST thing you are going to do is have three kids. Take more time off work, etc. etc because you are having trouble making ends meet. And so is your company. I ask you this: suppose you had a great job with benefits, a *huge* home (by our standards), an easy, high pay work environment with low unemployment, and no worries because your country passed laws that protected you. You were 'safe'. Your country didn't allow in 300,000 people a year to saturate the job market and create a housing bubble and higher taxes. How many kids would you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Why don't we have more kids?I ask you this: suppose you had a great job with benefits, a *huge* home (by our standards), an easy, high pay work environment with low unemployment, and no worries because your country passed laws that protected you. You were 'safe'. Your country didn't allow in 300,000 people a year to saturate the job market and create a housing bubble and higher taxes. How many kids would you have? I would have as many as my XX partner would allow. In my case thats two. And the choice had nothing to do with immigration. Immigrants may control your procreative activities but they don't control mine. Thats where my XX partner comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 My wife wants another but I turned 50 this month... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Why don't we have more kids? Please dont. Do yourself a favour , adopt or stop at none. You think I'm joking but I'm serious So am I. Well.. I'm a tax paying newly married Canadian who works in the private sector and who is not part of a union. Neither is me wife. We both have to work full time. Welcome to life. ("..me wife" ..? Are you from downeast?) Sincere congrats on your nuptials. But why don't we have more kids? Lets talk about the REAL reasons. The reasons that do NOT incude the gov't. Let me guess. It rains a lot in your bedroom? Lets sit back and immagine. To have 3 kids we need... 3 Viagras and no rain. I hear Cialis works and they have that new pill for "immediate pleasure". - A big house. Not a 1250 sq. ft. semi that costs $400,000 all because immigrants come here, buy homes, and drive up housing prices. The house should have a huge, massive yard, large inside, huge kitchen and lots of space for the whole family. Something like this:http://www.move2raleigh.com/images/779471%20copy.jpg This home is 3700 sq. ft. and sold for $274,900 in NC. Ah yes.. maybe that's one of the reason why North Carolin'ins have more kids. Think that could be? So, you cant afford a $400G house. No surprise, plenty of people cant. But you also want..everything given to you. Huge massive yard-ktichen-space for the family. Wake up mikey....no one will give you what you want. Immigrants come here and after a few years work and saving their money , and not to forget toiling in the rain , they purchase that semi @ 1250SF. I know plenty of kids, one particularly raised in a Hamilton home, maybe 900sf, with mom dad and 6 brothers. Three of whom are Olympians. See what hard work gets you? Probably not, but I tried. - Good pay. A degree should garuntee you an above average, white collar job. Same with diploma.Hey that house above was $274k. That is for the laborers and factory workers. The people that went through the expense of education should be living in: http://www.usaens.com/images/dbwanner.com/...ages/266785.jpg You think I'm joking but I'm serious. This is the quality of lives that we SHOULD be living. A degree helps, but the lack of one (in your case) coupled with atrocious spelling assures your continued existence in a teepee. Do immigrants look at you and walk away wondering where you went wrong? Now. Suppose we had access to these home prices, and our pay was increased and TAXES LOWERED. Dont forget the BJ's from Selma Hayek every evening , and the nude body rubs by Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders in the morning. And after breakfast...........? How many kids would you have? Be honest.You would have at least 3. I know I would. You found 3 Viagras? When you allow +300,000 people into your country a year with free education and no jobs, when there is high unemployement rate, when there is too much education, and when every family buys a home (while not working), it does nothing but drives up the housing prices. Prove, with a cite.... 1) who gets free education. (your parents were rooked you know) 2)show where there are no jobs and high unemployment (Nunavut doesnt count) Everyone who wants to will buy a home but you. Uh oh.....did you promise your bride a house and happiness? Edited October 29, 2008 by guyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 [drool]Selma Hayek [/drool] Nope, she's an immigrant taking the job away from a less skilled Canadian.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why don't we have more kids?Well.. I'm a tax paying newly married Canadian who works in the private sector and who is not part of a union. Neither is me wife. We both have to work full time. We plan on having 2 kids max. I would be happy with 1 child. But why don't we have more kids? Lets talk about the REAL reasons. The reasons that do NOT incude the gov't. Lets sit back and immagine. To have 3 kids we need... - A big house. Not a 1250 sq. ft. semi that costs $400,000 all because immigrants come here, buy homes, and drive up housing prices. The house should have a huge, massive yard, large inside, huge kitchen and lots of space for the whole family. Something like this: http://www.move2raleigh.com/images/779471%20copy.jpg This home is 3700 sq. ft. and sold for $274,900 in NC. Ah yes.. maybe that's one of the reason why North Carolin'ins have more kids. Think that could be? - Good pay. A degree should garuntee you an above average, white collar job. Same with diploma. Hey that house above was $274k. That is for the laborers and factory workers. The people that went through the expense of education should be living in: http://www.usaens.com/images/dbwanner.com/...ages/266785.jpg You think I'm joking but I'm serious. This is the quality of lives that we SHOULD be living. Now. Suppose we had access to these home prices, and our pay was increased and TAXES LOWERED. How many kids would you have? Be honest. You would have at least 3. I know I would. When you allow +300,000 people into your country a year with free education and no jobs, when there is high unemployement rate, when there is too much education, and when every family buys a home (while not working), it does nothing but drives up the housing prices. The more people that buy houses in a specific area - The higher the prices. The more people that apply for a single job: 1) The lower the pay. 2) The more credentials are required. The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. Read that again. If you don't get it take your time to see what immigration really does in Canada: The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. When you live in a shoebox, paying a premium price, the LAST thing you are going to do is have three kids. Take more time off work, etc. etc because you are having trouble making ends meet. And so is your company. I ask you this: suppose you had a great job with benefits, a *huge* home (by our standards), an easy, high pay work environment with low unemployment, and no worries because your country passed laws that protected you. You were 'safe'. Your country didn't allow in 300,000 people a year to saturate the job market and create a housing bubble and higher taxes. How many kids would you have? Newsflash a university degree is piss all. Workers in Fort Mac don't have university degrees and make a fortune, dare I say more than most people with university degrees. i don't have a university degree and I am definetely not poor. It's all about hard work, if you don't a PhD isn't going to save your ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Newsflash a university degree is piss all. Workers in Fort Mac don't have university degrees and make a fortune, dare I say more than most people with university degrees. i don't have a university degree and I am definetely not poor. It's all about hard work, if you don't a PhD isn't going to save your ass. Thats not to say that people should have anything against higher education though, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thats not to say that people should have anything against higher education though, is it? That depends on the point of the higher education, if you are taking a BA, your probably wasting you money. Most of my friends who left with the BA went back to the same low pay restraunt job they left to go to university. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedavid00 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thats not to say that people should have anything against higher education though, is it? No they shouldn't. But seriously no one is better than anyone else. All Canadians should have a decent life no matter where they work. The lowest of minimum wage jobs should be for students and teens. Adults should still be able to purchase good sized homes if working at WalMart. And they do. I would put this to you: An American family with both husband and wife working at WalMart probably have more sq. ft. and property in their home than a Canadian couple with a degree who are working in the non-union private sector. If you want to have kids, you need to have the room. You need a home to house everyone comfortably. When you don't have money, you don't have the space to raise kids. Canada's policy of creatign housing bubbles, over saturating our education, over saturating our job markets, and over taxing leaves the people with a small home, no money, and not in a position to have more kids. You guys have got to let go of the Canadian mentality that we need to look to the gov't to socially engineer us. I know.. it's hard.. you've grown up with it. When there's a problem, lets look at Daddy Gov't to fix it for us. A credit here, a program there.. do you really think a daycare program with massive gov't unions and billions in more civil servants and even higher taxes are going to make us have more kids? But this is beyond that. The fact that we're not having more kids is a sign of how poor we've become. How lowly our lives really are. When a company has tons of money, it doesn't hire immigrant labor and part time contracts. When we live in 3700 sq. ft homes, we don't fill it with 1 child. When we have lots of money and cheap gas, we don't buy little 4 cylinder cars. Again, I would wager that in parts of the US, Americans workign at WalMart have a larger home and property to raise children than University education Canadians. Immigration is simply destroying our country and the lives of Canadians. Tommorow, 500 people will wander out of Pearson Airport with no jobs, no goals, no English, and no benefit to Canada. They will indeed have their life savings and down payment money for a home while they collect tax payer benefits to support their mortgage. The agreement is, they support Liberal. And that is the ONLY reason these people are here. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW TO STOP THIS SLOW KILLING OF THE CANADIAN DREAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedavid00 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thats not to say that people should have anything against higher education though, is it? No they shouldn't. But seriously no one is better than anyone else. All Canadians should have a decent life no matter where they work. The lowest of minimum wage jobs should be for students and teens. Adults should still be able to purchase good sized homes if working at WalMart. And they do. I would put this to you: An American family with both husband and wife working at WalMart probably have more sq. ft. and property in their home than a Canadian couple with a degree who are working in the non-union private sector. If you want to have kids, you need to have the room. You need a home to house everyone comfortably. When you don't have money, you don't have the space to raise kids. Canada's policy of creatign housing bubbles, over saturating our education, over saturating our job markets, and over taxing leaves the people with a small home, no money, and not in a position to have more kids. You guys have got to let go of the Canadian mentality that we need to look to the gov't to socially engineer us. I know.. it's hard.. you've grown up with it. When there's a problem, lets look at Daddy Gov't to fix it for us. A credit here, a program there.. do you really think a daycare program with massive gov't unions and billions in more civil servants and even higher taxes are going to make us have more kids? But this is beyond that. The fact that we're not having more kids is a sign of how poor we've become. How lowly our lives really are. When a company has tons of money, it doesn't hire immigrant labor and part time contracts. When we live in 3700 sq. ft homes, we don't fill it with 1 child. When we have lots of money and cheap gas, we don't buy little 4 cylinder cars. Again, I would wager that in parts of the US, Americans workign at WalMart have a larger home and property to raise children than University education Canadians. Immigration is simply destroying our country and the lives of Canadians. Tommorow, 500 people will wander out of Pearson Airport with no jobs, no goals, no English, and no benefit to Canada. They will indeed have their life savings and down payment money for a home while they collect tax payer benefits to support their mortgage. The agreement is, they support Liberal. And that is the ONLY reason these people are here. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW TO STOP THIS SLOW KILLING OF THE CANADIAN DREAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 That depends on the point of the higher education, if you are taking a BA, your probably wasting you money. Most of my friends who left with the BA went back to the same low pay restraunt job they left to go to university. It's relative..it all depends on who has the BA. I have one friend who didn't finish his MA and now edits a national business mag and another who is a published auther and teached journalism at Ryerson. A woman I know has a BA social sciences and now manages an upscale seniors residence. What a BA does more than anything is an assurance to your potential employer that you are capable of critical thought and is an admit one to a better degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Ashley Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why don't we have more kids?Well.. I'm a tax paying newly married Canadian who works in the private sector and who is not part of a union. Neither is me wife. We both have to work full time. We plan on having 2 kids max. I would be happy with 1 child. But why don't we have more kids? Lets talk about the REAL reasons. The reasons that do NOT incude the gov't. Lets sit back and immagine. To have 3 kids we need... - A big house. Not a 1250 sq. ft. semi that costs $400,000 all because immigrants come here, buy homes, and drive up housing prices. The house should have a huge, massive yard, large inside, huge kitchen and lots of space for the whole family. Something like this: http://www.move2raleigh.com/images/779471%20copy.jpg This home is 3700 sq. ft. and sold for $274,900 in NC. Ah yes.. maybe that's one of the reason why North Carolin'ins have more kids. Think that could be? - Good pay. A degree should garuntee you an above average, white collar job. Same with diploma. Hey that house above was $274k. That is for the laborers and factory workers. The people that went through the expense of education should be living in: http://www.usaens.com/images/dbwanner.com/...ages/266785.jpg You think I'm joking but I'm serious. This is the quality of lives that we SHOULD be living. Now. Suppose we had access to these home prices, and our pay was increased and TAXES LOWERED. How many kids would you have? Be honest. You would have at least 3. I know I would. When you allow +300,000 people into your country a year with free education and no jobs, when there is high unemployement rate, when there is too much education, and when every family buys a home (while not working), it does nothing but drives up the housing prices. The more people that buy houses in a specific area - The higher the prices. The more people that apply for a single job: 1) The lower the pay. 2) The more credentials are required. The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. Read that again. If you don't get it take your time to see what immigration really does in Canada: The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. When you live in a shoebox, paying a premium price, the LAST thing you are going to do is have three kids. Take more time off work, etc. etc because you are having trouble making ends meet. And so is your company. I ask you this: suppose you had a great job with benefits, a *huge* home (by our standards), an easy, high pay work environment with low unemployment, and no worries because your country passed laws that protected you. You were 'safe'. Your country didn't allow in 300,000 people a year to saturate the job market and create a housing bubble and higher taxes. How many kids would you have? The pic looks a lot like the govenor generals house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 mikedavid00. I understand fully what you are talking about and I agree 110%. Things are looking bleak. Many people on this board are either like M.Dancer and are in the twilight of their careers , have made their money and now out of guilt feeling like sticking up for the poor helpless immigrant to make themselves feel better about having so much or they are a young kid who has yet to do anything worth a damn yet. I just turned 30 and would bet dollars to doughnuts we are the same age give 5 years either way. I am as frustrated as you are for the same reasons. I feel we should have the same tax benefit that Quebecers have. That is tax credit for having more children. That's right, in addition to the new child tax benefit, if you live in Quebec and have more than 2 children every family get an additional benefit. And why? Because of the constant pandering the gov't does for Quebec. I'm not anti-Quebec, far from it. They are showing us the way to get real change. If the Natives and the Quebecers are good for one thing, it's that they know how to get what they want and deserve. Why can't the rest of Canadians get the same benefits? After all we're all supposed to be equal right? There are 2 separate sets of rules and it seems to depend on who is more organized and who screams the loudest. White liberals have learned this well and are constantly protesting and changing things for their betterment. Working class families need to band together and do the same thing as I see it. Just my opinion of course. It sucks and it's not fair. We want to have a job, work hard and you're supposed to be rewarded right? That's what they tell us in school, but it isn't the truth. We know what the truth is but we aren't to say it else we be labeled as bigots or worse. No, we're supposed to take it and ask for seconds so that someone else can take what we've worked for. They don't call us the silent majority for nothing mikedavid00. How long will we be silent? How long will we take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why dont we have more kids. Because, we don't want to. If people want to have kids, they will. You don't need 3000 square feet plus a "huge yard". Most of the people I know who don't have kids, don't want kids because they are having too much fun going on vacations to mexico and Florida, and buying fancy vehicles, and going out socializing. Hedonism and parenthood, do not go well together. If you want to find the reason for your state of poverty, dont forget to blame businesses who only care about the bottom line, no interest in the community because their headquarters is in another country anyway. And the fat cats are doin alright jack, they don give a sheit about you. They will hire the one who will do the job for less. See thats where the unions you hate would come in and protect your job from the employer who wants to make it part-time or 3 month contract, so's they don pay no benefit. I hate the unions too but I hate the rich capitalist abuser who calls himself boss, even more. But still, if you get a good education and work hard, or even no education but work really hard, you can get somewhere. And maybe someone, a real man will explain to you where to put your peepee, so you will eventually figure out how to have a baby, for sure. Tell you what we have here, just a generation is spoiled complacent whiners. What you want, maybe the government will come and buy you a house? How about do some frikkin work, like your daddy used to do, bust your balls for 8-10 hours a day in a steel company, for 15 dollars. Then come home and listen to your spoiled lazy ass kids whine about how they don't get enough stuff to play with. They get a university degree and go back to working in a restaurant. Stupid is as stupid does. Lets blame others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'll make a bet that you're under 25 Sir Bandelot. Probably 21 or 22. Once you get a bit older you'll have a better grasp on what we're discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) I'll make a bet that you're under 25 Sir Bandelot. Probably 21 or 22. Once you get a bit older you'll have a better grasp on what we're discussing. Yeah what you guys are talking about is so deep. You can't have kids because of immigrants... what an idiotic excuse. For your information I have 3 kids, and I've been working for over 22 years. You have lost your bet. I won't say how old I think you really are, because I like kids, and I dont want to be mean to them. Unless they deserve it. But you seem ok, Mr. Canada. A little dumb perhaps Edited October 30, 2008 by Sir Bandelot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. Read that again. If you don't get it take your time to see what immigration really does in Canada: The more people come in, the more houses are going to get smaller, the prices going up, and the jobs paying less. MikeDavid, you are a one trick pony.According to you, everything is the fault of immigrants. Higher house prices? Immigrants. Smaller houses? Immigrants. Higher unemployment? Immigrants. Lower wages? Immigrants. Lower house prices? Immigrants. Bigger houses? Immigrants. Harper's election? Immigrants. Dion's defeat? Immigrants. MikeDavid, you should patent this idea. Cancer? Immigrants. Traffic jams? Immigrants. ----- It reminds me of a joke when I was young. Freight rates. People in the West used to complain about "freight rates". They blamed everything on "freight rates". I remember thinking, why not change the rates and make these people happy? If it's such a big deal, why not just change the rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunopolis Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why should the Canadian government spend any money on nationalized daycare? They just increase the country's population through immigration. This way some other country gets to spend the money raising and educating those soon-to-be Canadian citizens. Isn't life grand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 My wife wants another but I turned 50 this month... Happy Birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why don't we have more kids? Well, where to begin. I would think there are a couple of main reasons; social, and economic. Social: Let's face it, there was a time when if you were a woman and unmarried at 18, without kids, people started calling you an old maid. You were expected to have kids, and lots of them. Both men and women faced heavy family and peer dissaproval if they didn't have a lot of kids. And it wasn't like there was much else for you to do if you were a woman. Clearly all of that has been swept away. Your peers now look at you oddly if you have more than 2 kids. If you have four they start making jokes about you. And virtually nobody today has the eight or ten kids which used to be the standard. Women don't want to spend ten years pregnant and changing diapers. And no one is pushing them to. Economic. Sorry, but you don't need a big house to have a few kids. My parents raised three in a series of small, rented townhouses, and we never felt crowded. For that matter, her parents raised 8 kids in a small house, and they functioned quite adequately. The major economic factor affecting how many kids people have today is the availabilty of cheap daycare. If it costs you $750 a month for daycare - when you can find it - you're not going to have more than one kid at a time. A woman I know has twins, so she has to stay home for four years because the daycare costs would be $1500 per month - hardly worth working for. Most have one kid, then wait a few years, and have the second, so only one will be in day care at a time. People get married later, have kids later. By the time the second kid is ready for day care and they could possibly think about another people are getting older, and don't want to start in on the diapers and day care again. They want to buy all the shiny stuff they see in the stores, and figure they've done their duty with 2 kids. Or 1. BTW, even families with heavy incomes don't seem to have a lot of kids. I haven't seen any studies which show the birth rate is significantly higher for those families earning in excess of $200k, for example, or $300k. So how much is the economic factor even worth compared to the social factor? Still, we can't do much for the social, other than government ads, and how succesful are those? I would support a national guaranteed daycare program if one were proposed and costed and looked like it would actually provide daycare for everyone who needed it at a low cost. So far I haven't seen any such proposal. The Liberals' "National daycare plan" was nothing of the sort. It was simply money given to the provinces to do with as they chose, tarted up with grandiose suggestions this would result in a bazillion new daycare spaces, but no actual evidence to back that up. One final note. We hired a guy whose income was in the high twenties and had three kids. He said he had no difficulty supporting a stay-at-home wife and the three kids because they economized, and didn't need all the fancy gadgets. So if you want to do without the electronic wonderland you can have kids. A final final note. For those mocking the idea immigration could have influence on birth rates: there indeed have been studies which seem to show that, historically, heavy immigration does indeed tend to lower the national birth rate, as with so many workers flooding the job market people have less money and have fewer kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 For those mocking the idea immigration could have influence on birth rates: there indeed have been studies which seem to show that, historically, heavy immigration does indeed tend to lower the national birth rate, as with so many workers flooding the job market people have less money and have fewer kids. It would not stop me, so why would it affect you? Does the chinaman scare you so much you can't get an erection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why don't we have more kids? Why do we even need more kids? There seems to be a presumption that population growth is good. Why is it? We can certainly accomodate population changes both growth and declines so long as it is gradual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drea Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) It would not stop me, so why would it affect you? Does the chinaman scare you so much you can't get an erection excellent. People don't have as many kids, because, as Argus stated... women don't have to. Having 4, 5, 6+ children is hard on a woman mentally and physically. Most women today do want children, just not litters of them. I would have loved to have one more but alas it is too late (I just turned 44) and hubby and I are looking forward to that empty nest in the next five years or so. Then we will travel and enjoy focussing on each other. IMO, life is not strictly about bringing more people into the world. Life is about enjoying yourself. For some this may mean having tons of kids... but those people are rare. Most people want to not struggle and to enjoy a few amenities -- life is too short as it is. Enjoy yourself! Edited October 30, 2008 by Drea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Why do we even need more kids? There seems to be a presumption that population growth is good. Why is it? We can certainly accomodate population changes both growth and declines so long as it is gradual. Given our population is rising strictly due to immigration policy I think one can infer that government has decided our population needs to rise. I personally don't believe that is the case. I don't think the parties in power have even given any consideration to what Canada needs in terms of immigration. Immigration policy is strictly designed to enhance the political position of the party in power. The instant the Liberals or Tories determine they will get more votes from a total ban on immigration they will be in favour of that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 It would not stop me, so why would it affect you? Does the chinaman scare you so much you can't get an erection I said there were studies which suggested this, not that it influences me directly. I forgive you for the mistake, however. I'm guessing moving your finger across the screen and sounding out every syllable as you read can have a poor effect on comprehension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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