Obama a marxist, a racist and an anti-semite?

[Mr.Canada]

I have just watched a shocking video on you tube that depicts Obama as a racist, Marxist among other things. He won't wear a USA lapel pin, he won't put his hand over his heart during the national anthem...It contains some pretty damning evidence.

Edit- It's pretty interesting. I'm sure we'll hear the usual suspects pipe in about tin foil hats and the like. That's fine, those comments will be ignored.

Besides that if you're going to disagree please provide some proof that backs up your claim.

Non partisan FACTS from the video.

1. His name Barrack Hussein Obama - Three Muslim names.

2. Next to nothing known about his past.

3. Born to a Muslim from Kenya.

4. Attended a Muslim school in Jakarta.

5. Over 100 times in the house Hussein Obama has not voted yes or no just present.

6. Large Cuban flag with a portrait of mass murderer Che Guevara hangs in his office.

7. Refuses to wear American flag pin on his lapel.

8. Refuses to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem.

9. Anti-American statements from his wife during campaign.

10. Stated Rev. Jeremiah Wright is his mentor for over 20 years.

11. Condemns a white man for making off colour remarks but doesn't do the same for his Mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

12. Hussein Obama's Mentor for over 20 years preaches Black Liberation Theology and Liberation Theology which are based on Marxist ideals and originated Fidel Castro's Cuba.

13.Hussein Obama's Mentor Rev. Jeremiah Wright also holds James Cone's books in high regard. Dr. Cone teaches that Gods that are not for black people but for white people they'd better kill them. Also Black power which states that Blacks should kill their white oppressors by any means necessary.

14. Black Liberation theology teaches that all white people are racists.

15. Husein Obamas Mentor Rev Jeremiah Wright also teaches that Israel is a dirty word and Jews are like whites and opressors of black people. Supports and has travelled with Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam hate monger. He has been tought this doctrine for over 20 years.

16. Hussein Obama has stated that he will lift the ban on terrorist leaders and will sit down with them face to face.

Edited October 26, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[M.Dancer]

Shocking!!!

You know the expression "It's Better To Remain Silent-And-Appear Stupid Than To Speak And Remove-All-Doubt"?

Just saying....

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[Kitch]

"In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the

things you have long taken for granted." -- Bertrand Russell

But be prepared to learn something that you don't like. Whether it be that Obama is a racist, or that Marxist ideas aren't all that bad.

And let me drop this gem too:

Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it.

George Bernard Shaw

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[Shady]

Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it.

Not at all. If I were American, I'd feel that my country was superior due to its freedom, human rights, standard of living, etc, not just because one was born in it.

[peter_puck]

Besides that if you're going to disagree please provide some proof that backs up your claim.

Because Obama had a preacher who make some anti-American remarks, who read books by James Cone, who believed in Black Liberation Theology, which was connected to the Liberation Theology in Central America, some of whose supporters like Che Guevara, who was a communist, whose picture hung behind one persons desk in one of hundreds of Obama campaign offices, that makes Obama a communist, a racist and an anti-semite ?

That whole video did not really say anything about Obama, just some people he knows. If that video causes you too loose sleep, you probably have eye holes in your pillowcases.

[Kitch]

Not at all. If I were American, I'd feel that my country was superior due to its freedom, human rights, standard of living, etc, not just because one was born in it.

Freedom now or 8 years ago? Human rights for whites or for everyone? Standard of living in all regions? If you were American, you'd fit right in.

Sorry. Cheap shot at America, not you.

[Shady]

Freedom now or 8 years ago?

Both.

Human rights for whites or for everyone?

Both.

Standard of living in all regions?

Yes.

[Kitch]

Both.

Both.

Yes.

Soooooo, Americans freedom wasn't reduced, even if slightly, after 9/11?

The fact that a black man is running for president is a problem to nobody?

Everyone in America has access to the things they need to survive?

I suppose my eyes are too open to see reality. I should close them just enough so that I see only what I want.

This is all besides the point, which is a digression in itself. Even IF we assume that things are as rosy as you'd like to think in America, is Canada different? The UK? Germany? Do the people of Argentina feel differently about their countries (I don't know)? People from most countries are proud of the country that they were born in... more so than of other countries. Therefore, I believe Mr. Shaw is correct.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Because Obama had a preacher who make some anti-American remarks, who read books by James Cone, who believed in Black Liberation Theology, which was connected to the Liberation Theology in Central America, some of whose supporters like Che Guevara, who was a communist, whose picture hung behind one persons desk in one of hundreds of Obama campaign offices, that makes Obama a communist, a racist and an anti-semite ?

That whole video did not really say anything about Obama, just some people he knows. If that video causes you too loose sleep, you probably have eye holes in your pillowcases.

I think Melanie Philips has the best answer for your post:

Just consider if the boot had been on the other foot and McCain’s political career had been launched by an abortion clinic bomber, his mentor for 20 years had been a Ku Klux Klansman, and he had paid nearly a million dollars to far-right militias who strong-armed voters into fraudulent registrations.

The media would have a field day. The campaign would be a non-starter - a la David Duke.

[BubberMiley]

Except her analogy compares different types of boots and feet, so the argument is a non-starter.

[Sir Bandelot]

Patriotism under the GOP leadership means conformity. Clapping when the leader speaks, laughing when the leader jokes. Even if not funny. If you are different, you are outcast by this crowd, purely on superficiality not substance. They cannot comprehend that someone may not want to wear a flag pin, or shout in unison when the crowd shouts. They consider it to be anti-american, because they define america by their standard of conformity. This form of patriotism is at the root of distrust for other-ness, thus aliens, other cultures are despised. People who are different get branded with names that have no meaning from their original context. "Marxist", "Socialist", "Islamo-Fascist". There is no room for free-thinking, only servitude. Obama is clearly a free-thinker, non conformist. But not by any means "un-american". But some people will fall for that. Thats why I think john McCain represents a continuation of the same old ideas about America, patriotism, flag waving. A lack of critical self-analysis. If Obama wins it will help influence and change that kind of thinking, but not in huge ways and not immediately.

[bush_cheney2004]

.....If Obama wins it will help influence and change that kind of thinking, but not in huge ways and not immediately.

Nope...not at all. Barack Obama has actually embraced such things on the campaign trail to suit his own political motives.

But how could you know?

[Sir Bandelot]

Nope...not at all. Barack Obama has actually embraced such things on the campaign trail to suit his own political motives.

But how could you know?

Perhaps that is true, but by the same argument it doesn't matter what Obama really thinks or does, it matters what the people believe he thinkks and does.

[bush_cheney2004]

Perhaps that is true, but by the same argument it doesn't matter what Obama really thinks or does, it matters what the people believe he thinkks and does.

There is no perhaps about it....Obama's "patriotic" behaviours changed dramatically during the campaign. That would make him "guilty" of the exact same pandering you accuse Republicans of. Frankly, I don't think you know much about this dynamic unless you are an American, living in America. Americans define "patriotism" in many different ways.

Edited October 25, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[peter_puck]

I think Melanie Philips has the best answer for your post:

The media would have a field day. The campaign would be a non-starter - a la David Duke.

Her/your Analogy fails on many levels.

First of all, David Duke was Grand Wizard of the KKK. You are right, that if McCain had been a Grand Wizzard of the KKK, his political career would be a non-starter.

As for Melanie Philips twisted analogy, it is based on lies and exaggeration.

Obama did not launch the his political career in Ayers living room. Nobody has been able to show any significant connection between the two of them.

Reverend Wright is not the equivelent of the KKK. He is a black Archie Bunker at best.

Acorn is not a right wing militia. They did not "strong arm voters into false voter registrations. They simply paid people on a commission basis, and in a small number of cases, they were ripped off by their employees.

[bush_cheney2004]

Her/your Analogy fails on many levels.

First of all, David Duke was Grand Wizard of the KKK. You are right, that if McCain had been a Grand Wizzard of the KKK, his political career would be a non-starter.

Not true...see Senator Robert Byrd (he served in the US Senate for almost 50 years).

[DarkAngel_]

I've not been on this site for some time. so please bear with me cause, i am insane.

But over all, with Barrack Obama and John Mccain, people almost have no choice as to who to choose because its a double sided sword. both are a muck-pit to research, both election candidates are 'porked' or 'with motive' as well as having one good promise and hundreds of red flags with a 'Hush hush' plan written all over it. to add as well in that measure they have fickle minds and had troubling reservations admitted by both in the media.

this stems most likely (mind you I'm a contemptuous, self-centered, hypo-manic fight monger )

from the fact that they are politicians, and human. a famous quote of whom i don't recall states; "All people are delusional, but some of us question."

my point is this: beyond our delusions and between what we think is real in the political reality, and what are the delusions conjured by these 'choices?' Is What in this fight we do need.

(to be honest I'm gonna vote for my cat, she always gets what she wants and when presented with pests always takes decisive action, and she's spade so no nuclear war as predicted by not only sexists but also by unhappily married men )

Barrack Obama John Mccain

[Mr.Canada]

I find it humorous that everyone is afraid to discuss the video.

[BubberMiley]

Frankly, I don't think you know much about this dynamic unless you are an American, living in America.

I don't think you know much about this dynamic when you are too immersed in it. One requires an objective perspective to truly get a full picture of the situation.

But how could you know?

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't think you know much about this dynamic when you are too immersed in it.

Right..Americans are "too immersed in it"...that's why we get to vote and you don't.

One requires an objective perspective to truly get a full picture of the situation.

If that's true, then a witness from Mongolia would be even better than a poser wannabe from Canada.

[Mr.Canada]

The video makes a pretty clear portrait of a man who has been harboring communist ideals. Not to mention being trained into being a racist and anti-semite.

THe evidence is overwhelming which is why not one post on this topic disagrees with me but instead have been placed here to derail the thread and hijack it.

[Kitch]

The video makes a pretty clear portrait of a man who has been harboring communist ideals. Not to mention being trained into being a racist and anti-semite.

THe evidence is overwhelming which is why not one post on this topic disagrees with me but instead have been placed here to derail the thread and hijack it.

I haven't watched the video and so it wouldn't be reasonable for me to comment on what you said. But is it not possible for a person to have beliefs but not impose them on others?

[bush_cheney2004]

...THe evidence is overwhelming which is why not one post on this topic disagrees with me but instead have been placed here to derail the thread and hijack it.

I haven't watched the video, but I suspect it only reinforces beliefs already held/not held. My wife said something that probably reflects a significant sentiment about the candidates: she doesn't know who she will vote for, because she knows McCain so very well, but hardly knows Obama at all.

[eyeball]

I find it humorous that everyone is afraid to discuss the video.

I doubt if anyone bothered to watch anymore than it took to realize it would take too much time to bother.

As for your question, he's not a Republican so of course he must be a marxist, racist, anti-semite etc etc etc.

[Mr.Canada]

I doubt if anyone bothered to watch anymore than it took to realize it would take too much time to bother.

As for your question, he's not a Republican so of course he must be a marxist, racist, anti-semite etc etc etc.

He is another Jimmy Carter, the worst president in US History. No experience just like Carter. Hasn't run anything that impacts anything larger than a city.

Look at Obama's platform and compare it to Carters. Almost identical.

I base my decision on much research and reading. The video reaffirms everything I have read. Watch it and let's discuss it. I'd love to see you guys try to deny the truth of it.