WarBicycle Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 Hamas all out for Obama, believes he will end isolation of terror group On the eve of a planned meeting of its leader Khaled Meshaal with former President Jimmy Carter, the Hamas terrorist organization has expressed the "hope" that Senator Barack Hussein Obama will win the presidential elections and change America's foreign policy. Even though Obama has said that he would not meet with Hamas unless it renounces violence and recognizes Israel, or becomes the recognized leadership of the Palestinians -- he has no qualms about holding talks with the leadership of Iran, Syria, and North Korea -- that doesn't seem to bother the Hamas leadership. "We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections," Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, said in an exclusive interview with World Net Daily and with the John Batchelor Show on WABC Radio in New York. He saw Obama's comments about Hamas as political posturing that was understandable to lull supporters of Israel before the election. "I understand American politics and this is the season for elections and everybody tries to sound like he's a friend of the Israelis," he said. All that would change if Obama would get elected. "I hope Mr. Obama and the Democrats will change the political discourse.... I do believe [Obama] is like John Kennedy, a great man with a great principle. And he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community, but not with humiliation and arrogance," Yousuf said, speaking from Gaza. Obama was criticized last month after it was reported his church reprinted an opinion piece by Hamas defending terrorism as legitimate resistance, denying Israel's right to exist and comparing the terror group's official charter -- which calls for the murder of Jews and the eradication of Israel -- to the American Declaration of Independence. The Hamas piece was published on the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.'s "Pastor's Page" in the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter. After U.S. Jewish groups issued statements of concern, Obama denounced the Hamas piece and distanced himself from his church's newsletter. But he would not disavow his anti-Israel, anti-American pastor. Quote
GostHacked Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 Quite the missleading title of your thread there. For Hussein will be instantly connected to Saddam. Which got my attention for he is dead. So I had to check this thread out. The title should be corrected, for it is already slanted against Obama. And I wonder how this is really relevant (just like the Canadian Opion poll from another poster) to the elections held in the US. Quote
WarBicycle Posted April 16, 2008 Author Report Posted April 16, 2008 His middle name is Hussein, he attended and received his early fundamentalist education at a Wahhabi mosque where he was indoctrinated with hate, contempt and distrust of Jews, Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims. It is time he be exposed for what he is--a closet Muslim. Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 His middle name is Hussein, he attended and received his early fundamentalist education at a Wahhabi mosque where he was indoctrinated with hate, contempt and distrust of Jews, Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims. It is time he be exposed for what he is--a closet Muslim. Obama attended local schools in Jakarta, from ages 6 to 10, where classes were taught in Bahasa, the language of Indonesia. He first attended St. Francis Assisi Catholic school for almost three years, where he received weekly lessons in that Christian faith, although he was registered by his family as a Muslim, his father's stated religion.[10][11] When his family moved to a new neighborhood, he attended the secular, government-run SDN Menteng 1 school for his fourth year, and received similar weekly lessons in Islam and the Qu'Ran.[10][12][13][14] Obama's stepfather was "not religious", and "never went to prayer services except for big communal events", according to Obama's sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng.[12] When Obama was in third grade he wrote an essay saying that he wanted to become president. His teacher later told the Chicago Tribune that she was not sure what country he wanted to become president of but that he said that his reason for becoming president was that he wanted to make everybody happy.[4] Obama returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while attending Punahou School, a private college preparatory school, from the fifth grade until his graduation in 1979.[15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_an...ugh_high_school I am no fan of Obama but neither am I a fan for crappola either... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
jazzer Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 he attended and received his early fundamentalist education at a Wahhabi mosque where he was indoctrinated with hate, contempt and distrust of Jews, Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims. It is time he be exposed for what he is--a closet Muslim. Link please? Quote
Drea Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 Come on warbike! Just admit it -- you think he's.... get ready... you ok?... scared yet?... Obama is.... the .... ANTI... Christ! Of course, on the other hand, he could be your saviour... how are you going to tell? What if the decision you make (whether he is the antichrist or the saviour) and get it WRONG!? What then? Hellfire and brimstone for you forever baby! Hey I always thought I was the antichrist, the antiallah, theantigod, the antizues, the antisanta -- what a guy that Obama -- stealing my thunder, why I oughta... go shake his hand. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
WarBicycle Posted April 16, 2008 Author Report Posted April 16, 2008 Catholic School Docs Show Obama Registered As Muslim Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 Catholic School Docs Show Obama Registered As Muslim So he attended a named Catholic school and there is a claim he attaned an unamed muslim school.... You don't have to be a vet to know this smear smells like bullpoop.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Drea Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 Catholic School Docs Show Obama Registered As Muslim What difference does it make whether he is "Catholic" or "Muslim"... you both worship the same invisible entity... just have a different "doorway*" to get there. *one says Jesus, one says Muhammed -- who is to say who is right or wrong? How stupid is religion again? I just don't understand how a person can believe in an invisible entity and at the same time, not believe in the same invisible entity with a different name? There's this guy in my house, he calls me "Hon" -- there's this other guy there too, he calls me "Mom"... Am I two different people? Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
WIP Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 His middle name is Hussein, he attended and received his early fundamentalist education at a Wahhabi mosque where he was indoctrinated with hate, contempt and distrust of Jews, Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims. It is time he be exposed for what he is--a closet Muslim. I am more nauseated by the stories of how he found God in Rev. Wright's church after an atheistic upbringing, then I am about a chance that he could be a secret Muslim. I'm hoping that his God-talk is just the usual blather that presidential candidates are expected to spout now, and not a foresign that he is a left of center George Bush. http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0716/p01s01-uspo.html Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
GostHacked Posted April 16, 2008 Report Posted April 16, 2008 Obama's Muslim question has bene answered in another thread that bears his name. This thread can die, nothing new to see here, move on. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 17, 2008 Report Posted April 17, 2008 Trying to kill this thread will not erase the reality of Barack Hussein Obama, and the name associations are the least of his troubles. Seems that the Wright Reverend will be Senator Obama's poliitcal "Monkey Business"...at least Gary Hart got laid! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted April 17, 2008 Report Posted April 17, 2008 Trying to kill this thread will not erase the reality of Barack Hussein Obama, and the name associations are the least of his troubles. Seems that the Wright Reverend will be Senator Obama's poliitcal "Monkey Business"...at least Gary Hart got laid! So much for seperating religion from politics. Can't attack his senate record, so they attack his private social life and the religion he beleives in, which tells me they really have nothing on him. Also you are one that has said here many times that Obama will not get the Dem nod to be President, so really all this talk means nothing. Not to mention you are a McCain supporter from what I can gather here. BUT I AM JUST A CANADIAN, MY OPINION DOES NOT MATTER !!!! Canada is on strike ! We want more money ! Quote
WIP Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 So much for seperating religion from politics. Can't attack his senate record, so they attack his private social life and the religion he beleives in, which tells me they really have nothing on him. Also you are one that has said here many times that Obama will not get the Dem nod to be President, so really all this talk means nothing. Not to mention you are a McCain supporter from what I can gather here. BUT I AM JUST A CANADIAN, MY OPINION DOES NOT MATTER !!!! Canada is on strike ! We want more money ! Fear not! Once the Democratic primaries are over, the spotlight will start shining on John McCain too. We'll see how many Americans are willing to give George Bush a third term this November. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
HisSelf Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 (edited) So freedom of religion is OK as long as you're not a Muslim Edited April 18, 2008 by HisSelf Quote ...
sharkman Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 So freedom of religion is OK as long as you're not a Muslim Exactly! Well, except strike the part about as long as you're not a Muslim and insert, as long as you don't feel your religion commands you to murder unbelievers and Jews. Quote
HisSelf Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Exactly! Well, except strike the part about as long as you're not a Muslim and insert, as long as you don't feel your religion commands you to murder unbelievers and Jews. O goodness! I tot I tsaw a puddy cat! So by your thinking, all Catholics are child molesters? The Bible tells us to stone a few people, so are you saying anybody who follows the Bible should be out picking up stones? Jimmy Swaggart is gonna have words for you on Sunday. "I hear ya" brother... Quote ...
sharkman Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 (edited) O goodness! I tot I tsaw a puddy cat!So by your thinking, all Catholics are child molesters? The Bible tells us to stone a few people, so are you saying anybody who follows the Bible should be out picking up stones? Jimmy Swaggart is gonna have words for you on Sunday. "I hear ya" brother... Get a grip. Now reread my post. Notice I said as long as you don't feel your religion commands you to murder unbelievers and Jews. The Catholic faith does not command it's followers to murder anybody, and apparently you aren't familiar with Jimmy Swaggart's problem. However, if certain bible readers feel commanded to kill, then my comment still stands; they shouldn't be free to practice their religion. The Koran commands the killing of infidels and Jews as standing orders. The bible does not. Edited April 18, 2008 by sharkman Quote
sharkman Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 O goodness! I tot I tsaw a puddy cat! BTW, it's kind of odd that any remark you read would give voice to the above quote. Just what exactly are your viewing habits? Quote
HisSelf Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 BTW, it's kind of odd that any remark you read would give voice to the above quote. Just what exactly are your viewing habits? You've never seen Bugs Bunny and the Road Runner? What are you, a commie? Quote ...
buffycat Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 What difference does it make whether he is "Catholic" or "Muslim"... you both worship the same invisible entity... just have a different "doorway*" to get there. *one says Jesus, one says Muhammed -- who is to say who is right or wrong?How stupid is religion again? I just don't understand how a person can believe in an invisible entity and at the same time, not believe in the same invisible entity with a different name? There's this guy in my house, he calls me "Hon" -- there's this other guy there too, he calls me "Mom"... Am I two different people? Wow, thanks Drea. How totally refreshing! I love this: There's this guy in my house, he calls me "Hon" -- there's this other guy there too, he calls me "Mom"... Am I two different people? That is a GEM!! As far as the OP goes - well it's classic smear by association - 'nuf said! Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
GostHacked Posted April 22, 2008 Report Posted April 22, 2008 The Koran commands the killing of infidels and Jews as standing orders. The bible does not. Cite? Quotation? Or are you just pulling this out of your ass? Or are you basing this on what others say is in the Koran? By your definition, it seems to me the Bible promotes other types of violence. Is that okay? Is it really the type of violence one 'holy book' preaches that is superior to another 'holy book' that promotes and preaches other types of violence? Think about it. Quote
Andy Posted April 24, 2008 Report Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) The Koran commands the killing of infidels and Jews as standing orders. The bible does not. It is quite easy to take things out of context, like the one above. The following list shows how easy it is to show how God either killed or order to be killed over 2, 000,000. The number behind the scripture quote represents those killed. Lot's wife for looking back, Gen.19:26, 1 Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Gen.38:7, 1 Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10, 1 Pharaoh and 600 chariot captains Ex.14:8 26 601 Naked dancing around Aaron's golden calf Ex.32:27 28, 35, 3000 Offering strange fire before the Lord, Lev.10:1 3, Num.3:4, 26:61, 2 A blasphemer Lev.24:10 23, 1 A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32 36, 1 Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families)Num.16:27, 12+ Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10, 250 For complaining Num.16:49, 14,700 Fpr whoredom with the daughters of Moab" Num.25:9, BT 24,000 Midianite massacre Num.31:1 35, 90,000+ Stoned to death,.Joshua 7:10 12, 24 26, 5+ God/Joshua attack Ai and kill everyone. Joshua 8:25 12,000 Joshua kills 5 kings, Joshua 10:24 26, BT 5 God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, 10,000 Message from God: a knife into the king's bell, Jg.3:15 22, 1 God delivered Moabites , Jg.3:28 29, 10,000 God forces soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2 22, 8:10, 120,000 The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson, Jg.14:19, 30 The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14 15, 1000 Samson's God assisted act of terrorism, Jg.16:27 30, 3000 "The Lord smote Benjamin" Jg.20:35 37, 25,100 More Benjamites Jg.20:44 46 25,000 For looking into the ark of the Lord , 1 Sam.6:19 50,070 God delivered Philistines, 1 Sam.14:12 20 Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death, 1Sam.15:32 33 1 "The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Sam.25:38 1 Uzzah, ark falling,2 Sam.6:6 7, 1 Chr.13:9 10 1 David and Bathsheba's baby boy, 2 Sam.12:14 18 1 Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6 9 7 Plague as punishment re David's census, 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ A prophet for believing another prophet's lie, 1 Kg.13:1 24 1 Religious leaders killed in prayer contest, 1 Kg.18:22 40 450 God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands, 1 Kg.20:28 29 100,000 God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers, 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 God sent lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet,1 Kg.20:35 36 1 Ahaziah, talking to the wrong god. 2 Kg.1:2 4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7 9 1 Burned to death by God, 2 Kg.1:9 12 102 God sends two bears to kill children, 2 Kg.2:23 24 42 Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah, 2 Kg.7:17 20 1 Jezebel, 2 Kg.9:33 37 1 God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners, 2 Kg.17:25 26 3+ Sleeping Assyrian soldiers, 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 Saul, 1 Chr.10:14 1 God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah , 2 Chr.13:15 17 500,000 Jeroboam, 2 Chr.13:20 1 "The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 2 Chr.14:9 14 1,000,000 God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out, 2 Chr.21:14 19 1 Judean soldiers, 2 Chr.28:6 120,000 Ezekiel's wife, Ezek.24:15 18 1 Ananias and Sapphira, Acts 5:1 10 2 Herod, Acts 12:23, 1 Actually some of these may cause distress to the religious fundamental camp as many of my examples speak for themselves and do not require context. Edited April 24, 2008 by Andy Quote
eyeball Posted April 24, 2008 Report Posted April 24, 2008 God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out, 2 Chr.21:14 19 1 You mean like, out of his butt or something? I have to say I kind of find the thought of that a little distressing too. So much for truth being stranger than fiction. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
M.Dancer Posted April 24, 2008 Report Posted April 24, 2008 So much for truth being stranger than fiction. In relation to this you have a NSFW pm....suffice to say, it happens. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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