Multiculturism is a huge failure

[Qwerty]

What Canada needs to do is adopt a policy of integration and immersion or kick them out.

"Learn and speak English or get out!"

"Commit a crime and we'll kick you out!"

These last two are actual quotes from the UK Labour Party.

Hard to believe that a left wing government passing such common sense laws, I know.

I was shocked as well.

Trudeau ruined this country with this multi-cultural agenda.

Multiculturism is a failure. It doesn't work. We need to abandon this failed experiment now and move towards a melting pot type of system.

If it worked racism would fail to be an issue but as it is people tend to feel more comfortable with there own race. There is nothing wrong with this at all and is evidenced by the way that newcomers create there own nations within Canada.

Yet the government still forces us to live together against our will for our own good they say.

Most of these immigrants do not integrate and do not identify themselves as Canadian first, they are always something else first. This is not the way to build a strong nation. Say what you will about the Americans, at least they are all Americans first before anything else.

I was watching Steve Paiken on The Agenda last night and they had Iraqi doctors who were practicing in Newfoundland but they all said that they would go back to Iraq in a heartbeat if it was safe and that they are Iraqi's at heart and always will be.

This is disturbing to say the least. We are admitting people to this country who do not even wish to identify with it. And only to take advantage of us and make money from us then leave when they've had their fill.

I live in GTA. So I don't live in some far away place preaching like the Liberal media likes to do. The media will preach to us about multiculturalism and how great it is to have all these different races and cultures in our neighborhoods when they live in Forest Hill or Barrie or some such. They don't live in it they don't know the hell that it is.

I like all the great food they bring but wished they made more of an effort to live and look like we do.

[August1991]

Trudeau ruined this country with this multi-cultural agenda.

Multiculturism is a failure. It doesn't work. We need to abandon this failed experiment now and move towards a melting pot type of system.

Please define "multiculturalism".

Canada cannot have one single melting pot. Even if you have a passing knowledge of Canadian history, you should at least understand that.

[M.Dancer]

On the streetcar to work today there was a mother and her teenage daughter talking about school. She was a private school girl nicely attired and her mother is someone I see regulalry on the streetcar.

The mother spoke to her daughter in Polish and the daughter answered back in flawless unaccented english.

Yesterday coming home there were 2 chinese gals looking at a map with a confused look on their faces. They looked up from their map looking for someone to help them and they see an elderly chinese looking fellow...they go to him and speak...he looks up and says with accented english, I'm sorry I don't speak chinese....

I love canada, it entertains me quite a lot.

[M.Dancer]

I was watching Steve Paiken on The Agenda last night and they had Iraqi doctors who were practicing in Newfoundland but they all said that they would go back to Iraq in a heartbeat if it was safe and that they are Iraqi's at heart and always will be.

This is disturbing to say the least. We are admitting people to this country who do not even wish to identify with it. And only to take advantage of us and make money from us then leave when they've had their fill.

By being doctors, they are net contibuters to our society. They have as much right to move on as Canadian Doctors.

[eyeball]

Looking at this from the perspective of an Earthling I'd say its multi-nationalism that's failing.

What Earth needs to do is adopt a policy of merger and integration and gently ask the diehards to chill out and to please just go about their own business as quietly as possible, thank you very much.

Folks like Qwerty can always move to places like England if it better suits them.

[Qwerty]

Looking at this from the perspective of an Earthling I'd say its multi-nationalism that's failing.

What Earth needs to do is adopt a policy of merger and integration and gently ask the diehards to chill out and to please just go about their own business as quietly as possible, thank you very much.

Folks like Qwerty can always move to places like England if it better suits them.

Exactly what I just said, thank you for resonating that same sentiment.

That's hilarious as the majority of Europe is going to be a muslim majority by 2050.

They're having open race riots in Europe now and since we are about 6 years behind in things like fashion can we assume that the same riots will take place here in the near future? Perhaps not but I am not the only one who is fed up with all of the accommodation afforded to newcomers while they make little to no effort to integrate at all.

For the other's that posted above this quoted post. I am not lumping them all together because I see everyday newcomers whom are making a genuine effort to live like the Canadian people who were here before them and applaud that.

[eyeball]

Let me re-phrase that, its multi-countryism that's failing.

[mikedavid00]

By being doctors, they are net contibuters to our society.

Only 23% of recent Immigrants are net contributors.

[WarBicycle]

I grew up in an Italian neighbourhood in the late 40’s and 50’s; Italians are probably the least qualified, but the most successful immigrants that we have allowed into Canada. There is nothing wrong with multi-culturalism; the biggest mistake we made is allowing Muslims into the Canada because Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology that refuses to compromise. Its Imams are nothing more than poorly educated troublemakers that take direction from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran.

[M.Dancer]

I grew up in an Italian neighbourhood in the late 40’s and 50’s; Italians are probably the least qualified, but the most successful immigrants that we have allowed into Canada.

What does that mean?

There is nothing wrong with multi-culturalism; the biggest mistake we made is allowing Muslims into the Canada because Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology that refuses to compromise. Its Imams are nothing more than poorly educated troublemakers that take direction from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran.

The two are not mutually exclusive. What quickly comes to mind is modern Conservative Christianity and the established church movement/antidisestablishment church movement of 18th century England....

As well, it isn't even all of islam that has the no comprimise attitude but mainly one segment, wahibism from Saudi Arabia. Sufism, Shia....etc are far less intolerant (but still quite rigid)

[Wilber]

Only 23% of recent Immigrants are net contributors.

Nice number but what does it mean? Are you saying that 77% of employable recent immigrants are not working? That I don't believe.

[Wilber]

I was watching Steve Paiken on The Agenda last night and they had Iraqi doctors who were practicing in Newfoundland but they all said that they would go back to Iraq in a heartbeat if it was safe and that they are Iraqi's at heart and always will be.

This is disturbing to say the least. We are admitting people to this country who do not even wish to identify with it. And only to take advantage of us and make money from us then leave when they've had their fill.

Ya, let's boot them all out. We don't need no stinkin doctors.

[WarBicycle]

What does that mean?

Most of my friend's parents were illiterate peasants from the south of Italy. They worked as laborers eventually opening their own landscaping nurseries, plastering, brick laying, construction and asphalt paving companies. They also saw to it the next generation enjoyed the benefit of a good education. The fourth generation is Italian in name only; most cannot even speak the language. The Greeks that settled in Canada after the war were also poorly educated, many worked as dishwashers to make ends meet. This probably accounts for why so many are in the restaurant industry.

[Argus]

On the streetcar to work today there was a mother and her teenage daughter talking about school. She was a private school girl nicely attired and her mother is someone I see regulalry on the streetcar.

The mother spoke to her daughter in Polish and the daughter answered back in flawless unaccented english.

Yesterday coming home there were 2 chinese gals looking at a map with a confused look on their faces. They looked up from their map looking for someone to help them and they see an elderly chinese looking fellow...they go to him and speak...he looks up and says with accented english, I'm sorry I don't speak chinese....

I love canada, it entertains me quite a lot.

And thousands of "Canadians" gathered on parliament hill the other day demanding the government stop criticising China's human rights record. No doubt hundreds of thousands more were there in spirit.

[Argus]

Nice number but what does it mean? Are you saying that 77% of employable recent immigrants are not working? That I don't believe.

I would suggest it means that only 23% earn enough to be net contributors to the taxation base. Those earning lower than a given amount are more of a drain than an asset. There have been a number of recent studies which debunk the theory that the more immigrants you bring in the richer you are. If you don't bring in the right type of immigrants it causes trouble and you don't have a net economic benefit. Immigrants today are much poorer than they used to be, mainly because of the lack of skills, esp language skills, and the lack of integration with Canadian customs.

[Argus]

Looking at this from the perspective of an Earthling I'd say its multi-nationalism that's failing.

What Earth needs to do is adopt a policy of merger and integration and gently ask the diehards to chill out and to please just go about their own business as quietly as possible, thank you very much.

Simplistic drivel.

To expect people with diametrically opposed customs and cultural conditioning to live together in joy and harmony while respecting one another's customs and habits is the kind of pie in the sky silliness one would expect of the Left. In reality, westerners consider Muslim cultural habits to be backward, ignorant and barbaric, and Muslims consider Western habits to be godless and immoral.

[M.Dancer]

And thousands of "Canadians" gathered on parliament hill the other day demanding the government stop criticising China's human rights record. No doubt hundreds of thousands more were there in spirit.

Ummm....read the news.....that's not what they were demonstrating about.

More than 6,000 pro-China demonstrators took to Parliament Hill Sunday afternoon to show support for the Chinese government.

The demonstrators sang patriotic songs and waved flags to show support for a united China.

This is in the wake of the Chinese government's crack down on Tibetan protests and the ensuing calls for a boycott of the Beijing Olympics this summer.

Protesters said they want the world to take the politics out of the Olympics and accuse the media of supporting Tibetans while completely distorting the real situation in China.

http://www.ctvbc.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNe...413/Eli%20Stone

OTTAWA - A pro-China demonstration on Parliament Hill yesterday attracted about 5,000 Chinese-Canadians from Ottawa, Montreal and Toronto eager to show support for the troubled Beijing Olympics.

"Olympics is nothing to do with politics," said Jeremy Zhang, a 37-year-old Ottawa chemist who emigrated from China in 2002. "I think our country deserves the Olympics. Sports is a peaceful event to join all people together."

A group of Chinese community associations organized the event in the wake of chaotic protests disrupting the world relay of the Olympic torch. Protesters in Paris, London and San Francisco have condemned human rights abuses in China, including recent violent confrontations in Tibet.

http://www.canada.com/news/story.html?id=443605

Not that your comment is apropos to anything anyway...Canadians are free, including Chinese canadians to protest about what ever they want.....

[madmax]

Only 23% of recent Immigrants are net contributors.

That's still more then you have been able to accomplish. If 77% of them didn't vote, You could say

YEAH!!! ME TOO!!!

If 77% didn't have a job, you could say, YEAH!!! ME TOO!!! ...I don't work alot either.

If 77% were offered a job in the west and turned it down, you could say, YEAH ME TOO!!!.

If 77% couldn't spell correctly, you could say YEAH ME TOO!!!

[jazzer]

Trudeau ruined this country with this multi-cultural agenda.

And yet Mulroney signed it into law.

[Wilber]

I would suggest it means that only 23% earn enough to be net contributors to the taxation base. Those earning lower than a given amount are more of a drain than an asset. There have been a number of recent studies which debunk the theory that the more immigrants you bring in the richer you are. If you don't bring in the right type of immigrants it causes trouble and you don't have a net economic benefit. Immigrants today are much poorer than they used to be, mainly because of the lack of skills, esp language skills, and the lack of integration with Canadian customs.

As compared to what for the rest of the country? If for instance they are having more children, that will bring their percentage down but is a good thing because a country has no future without children. We may in fact be bringing in people with not enough skills but that has nothing to do with multiculturalism. That is purely immigration policy. The US isn't really doing any better in that respect with a melting pot principle.

[Sean Hayward]

Multiculturalism is not a failure. If you are present in Canadian society today, you will realize that there is no problem here. Even with multiculturalism as policy, immigrants or their descendants eventually integrate into mainstream society and culture, 10 times out of 10.

[WarBicycle]

As compared to what for the rest of the country? If for instance they are having more children, that will bring their percentage down but is a good thing because a country has no future without children. We may in fact be bringing in people with not enough skills but that has nothing to do with multiculturalism. That is purely immigration policy. The US isn't really doing any better in that respect with a melting pot principle.

Multiculturalism is not a failure. If you are present in Canadian society today, you will realize that there is no problem here. Even with multiculturalism as policy, immigrants or their descendants eventually integrate into mainstream society and culture, 10 times out of 10.

Please provide source.

[Black Dog]

They're having open race riots in Europe now and since we are about 6 years behind in things like fashion can we assume that the same riots will take place here in the near future? Perhaps not but I am not the only one who is fed up with all of the accommodation afforded to newcomers while they make little to no effort to integrate at all.

I can't believe there are such problems in Europe, what with the continent's long history of tolerance and openness when it comes to alien cultures.

[WarBicycle]

I can't believe there are such problems in Europe, what with the continent's long history of tolerance and openness when it comes to alien cultures.

If I were a Muslim living in Europe I would be more concerned with Europe's history of twice committing genocide against a problem ethnic group within the past sixty-five years.

[DogOnPorch]

Multiculturalism is not a failure. If you are present in Canadian society today, you will realize that there is no problem here. Even with multiculturalism as policy, immigrants or their descendants eventually integrate into mainstream society and culture, 10 times out of 10.

Except those who merely are looking for a Canadian passport to provide an escape route when their poor excuse for a nation implodes. Then it's off to the Great White North for a little R&R until things are hunky-dorry in the 'old country'. Thanks...suckers.

Or those who didn't qualify for the US for whatever reason, then choosing Canada as a 2nd choice. First chance they get...California here we come. Thanks...suckers.

Don't tell me it doesn't happen...en masse at times.

I also believe there are reasons certain countries are literally crap-holes...and it isn't just random luck-of-the-draw. They did it to themselves and we're fools to think that they won't behave exactly the same way here. We allow those cultures into Canada at our peril. Example: a fellow comes to our door with an architecture degree from his home country...overlooking the fact that buildings fall over there on a regular basis. Now he wants his degree recognized and employment in his field. Shall we let him? He'll make a big fuss if we 'force' him to drive a cab or anything else he feels is beneath him. Doctors are an obvious problem here. Standards aren't universal...no matter how PC you want to get about it, certain countries produce better doctors. Who do you want a-cuttin'...a doctor trained in a 3rd World university...or one schooled here in Canada or the US?

Seriously...it's your heart...can you afford to be politically correct? If you can you must truely believe in an afterlife...good on you.

Typical Canadian attitude towards folks is to help...it's a natural for us. But we take it too far at times to the point of stupidity. A good example is that MS-13 member/murderer that we're treating like some poor victim of his government in El Salvador rather than the vicious killer that he is.

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Political correctness is the natural continuum from the party line. What we are seeing once again is a self-appointed group of vigilantes imposing their views on others. It is a heritage of communism, but they don't seem to see this.

---Doris Lessing