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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/01/11...a.ap/index.html Looks like they did not hit their targets. And why the hell would they even make an attack in another country? This is like the US has no respect of territory/borders at all. If an escalation in the area is not happening, then why is another carrier strike group on the way there? Terrorism - the THREAT of an attack, not the action of the attack is well. If this is the true definition of terrorism, then the current US administration are masters of terror. They are always saying we should be scared and ready for an attack at anytime. Terrorists want to blow up our cities and kill our people. Al-Quaeda (however the hell you want to spell it) wants to hurt us. ect ect. Don't want the evidence to come in the form of a mushroom cloud. I bet you will be hearing this rhetoric in regards to Iran soon enough. BE SCARED, but don't worry, Bush is taking care of all of us. Give up all your rights and you can have perfect freedom. And you know, 'attacking' the US right now might be worth the effort. Good portion of the US military is half way around the world. Two carrier strike groups, another on the way to the Persian Gulf. Twenty thousand more troops being deployed. Why can they not send 200,000 troops to actually kill the insurgency, KILL it, secure the area and then it would be easier for the new Iraqi government to stand up. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/11/s...ess/#more-13477 I love Keith. He must write his own reports. I mean he must actually write them, and not some group that writes the speeches for him. He is right on so much here it is rediculous. Bush Apologists cannot compete with this man. So much 'Kerry flip-flopping' it astounds me. Please watch the Keith Olbermann clip. Hate to see what Sharkman would have to say about someone so negative about Bush. Just another Bush hater though, right? The facts are clearly laid out here. http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/11/iraq.iran/index.html YAY FOR TROOP AUGMENTATION!! Nice one there Rice. I do not understand the raid on the Iranian diplomats in Iraq. Which for what I have read so far, indicate that Iraq and Iran are trying to pursue diplomatic ties again. Friends close, enemies closer? Possibly. I knew that Iran was next, just after the invasion of Iraq. For those who did NOT see this coming, I really feel sorry for you. Wake up people, this is the LONG WAR Bush was talking about. The war that could last .. decades? Longer? Who knows!! Total transformation of the Middle East. http://infowars.net/articles/january2007/110107Failla.htm It's not that we have ADD, it's just that I cannot tolerate any more bullshit. Those of us who cannot listen for more than 5 minutes are very aware of the REAL situation in Iraq and had the foresight the current US Administration lacks.

Black Dog Considering what Clinton was impeached for, this should have happened a long time ago for Bush. Or can no one see the hypocracy of that? Clinton lied about having sexual relations with a woman (ok an Intern). If the Lewinski case can bring down a President (which to me seemed like more of a personal affair, to which I did not see Hilary make a big deal of it, and they are still together), then getting the US involved in a war that had nothing but lies/bullshit supporting it, then YES he should be impeached. War was delcared on Terrorism. War was NOT declared on Iraq. It just happened. NSA wiretappings PATRIOT Act ect ect ect. Now the White House is making it 100% confidential about who visits the White House. That is taking it a bit to far. But I guess the American public does not need to know what the President does in the white house. If Osama Bin Laden or Kim Jong Ill happen to visit the white house, would you not want to know about it? Why all that secrecy. Is this damage control of some type? Victory for Iraq is still at least 10 years out, 20,000 troops is not enough. If you are not going to fight and secure the areas that are in trouble then you might as well not send any extra troops at all. But that is part of a problem with the current recruiting levels in the US, they are down, and are on the decline. Have been for the last couple years now. And people are aware that the military is looking for and NEEDING these extra bodies to make up their numbers. Spread thin over other 'theatres' around the planet. Impeach him now.

Hey Sharkman, I think you would be best off not to post in any Bush Hating thread. You cannot seem to come up with anything substantial to add to the thread at all. Please, I have see you do this many times , post and run. "OH GEE ANOTHER BUSH HATING THREAD" I see all the threads too Sharkman, but I don't respond to everyone of them pointing out 'OH HEY another bush hating thread' Please find something more constructive to do. I am sick of it, and I am calling you out on it. Please stop. If that man (using the term loosely here) was doing a good job, and if that man was genuine in his words and actions then you can argue for him. But he has consistantly been doing things to undermine the Constitution of the US. Lying to get into a war they never intended to get out of. Oil is a major factor in this new Long War, or war on Terrorism. Guthrie, Impeachement should happen for bush. Polynewbie. Right and Left are the same. This is quite evident. No one seems to want to hold anyone accountable for anything. Proving that both parties are in on the whole deal.

You got that one right there Mr. Bush. Violence is for the weak minded. That is why the US is in the Middle East right now at this very moment. And if you want to take every word on here I say at face value then go for it. I'd hate for anyone to read between the lines and look for more of a meaning. Leaders should be held accountable for their actions. Also baseball bat to knees is way less of a punishment than each familiy of each dead/fallen soldier. Bush would be able to walk one day possibly. There is no possible return of those dead soldiers. Which I think they have died in vain for a worthless cause. I would hope that weighs in on Bush's concience. Sharkman. How about something to add to this thread? Instead of just pointing out that Figleaf hates bush in EVERY thread he makes. Again another thread proving that there really is no separation of Church and State. Dangerous roads we are heading down people. Dangerous.

I think self awareness and a consience seperates us from the rest of the animals. I oppose organized religion for I have come to the conclusion it no longer serves any function in my life. I was brought up without religion. Does that make me a baffoon? I guess it does. Fine. Or maybe it offers me a view of religion that others cannot see. I am an outsider looking in observing. If I don't understand something I inquire about it. Oh hell yes indeed! Since most do not learn from their mistakes (those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it) they have the potential to make another one. I agree here as well. Odd that I would agree on both points. Smart baffoon I am. I have no respect for religion in the sense that they manipulate the stupid. Still believing and fighting for a 'God'. Religion does influence governments all over the world. More than you think. There is no seperation of church and state. None. Israel is a Jewish state, don't tell me that the jewish religion does not come into play when making huge decisions that affect the masses of their country and others close by. Most 3rd world countries are being introduced to Christianity by people of Europe and North America. Trying to 'save' everyone by teaching them the good word. That has the potential for much violence. Even South America got that treatment. Believe in yourself, not some mythical god. And I guess an organized religion like Scientology is nothing to wory about either. All hail XENU !!!! See what I am getting at? Bullshit, lies and missinterpretations of literature presented to the masses to manipulate them for their cause.

The Crusades. End of thread! OK let me elaborate. Religion has been around longer than organized governments. That influence is felt still today. Before recorded history I will say people were killing each other over religion. I agree that this war on terror is a war against religion. The way I see it, Christianity has been the major force in this new war on religion. Since organized religion is older than organized governments, religious leaders had the power to influence the masses. You pay.. er donate to the church to further their cause. So they can spread the good word. (that word today boys and girls is 'freedom') Converting those who can be, and killing those who cannot. That mentality is still strong today. The USA has 'under God' in almost everything they do. Praise Allah is touted by Iran. Even other countries that use 'under God' have a different version of what is God. Every religion wants to be on top. So way back in the day, that money and taxes (kingdoms, kings, taxes, empires, religion) would be spent to defend your view of what is the true and just religion. Since words were not enough to convince you, I should strike you down. It is obvious you are inferior. I need something more than just a book for you to read. Horses, knights, armor swords ect ect. Today it's planes, tanks, and guns. And they are still trying to spread the good word. Just now I am watching with my cousin an episode of Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on Religion.

When is the last time you heard the media talk about that OZONE layer in Antarctica. How has that been going?? Good? Bad? No one knows? Also CO2... this is Carbon Dioxide right??? Like what comes out of my lungs when I exhale? Or is it Carbon MONOXIDE they are refering too? If MONOxide, then you can make a pretty good guess that burning fossile fuels for transportation purposes increases the level of Carbon Monoxide, then you have an argument for that affecting climate change. But regular C02?? Trees baby, lots of them. It has been a warm winter so far here in Ottawa, Canada, but other parts of the continent are getting SLAMMED with cold weather and lots of snow. So the chicken little 'sky is warming' agrument gets tossed out the door. This has been the warmest winter I have seen. I had lived in Sudbury Ont, for most of my life and the last 10 years here in Ottawa. They are close in lattitude and a measly 500kms from each other. And yet the weather in both cities is different. Sudbury has no major bodies of water around it ... check that... major bodies of moving water. Lots of lakes though. The winters were usually very cold and dry. Summers cool/hot/humid ect ... all over the place. Now here in Ottawa, the winters have not been as cold (temperature wise) but feels colder due to the moisture in the air. Ottawa River right in the city, St. Lawrence only a couple hundres KMs from here. The winters in both cities have been quite different from each other. A couple years ago, my dad in Sudbury was telling me it was a warm winter and he could not get out on the snowmobile much if at all for the entire season. Yet in Ottawa here, we were buried in the snow. Weather patterns always shift. Always. Tomorrow has a 100% chance of weather.

I knew there was something I liked about this forums. No garbage to look at. Links and text are where it's at. Most people cannot handle text unless it is l33t sp34k. Roy Wilson Obviously this man knows what he is talking about. Since no one else has the balls to stand up against the Black Dog. And the response to Black Dog's agrument is rock solid as proven in the above statement. Roy's fantastic approach to this argument is in no way flawed. I am under the impression if a debate actually took place between Black Dog and Roy Wilson, ... I am expecting Roy to Cartman it up and leave Black Dog by himself to argue the points of both sides. Way to Go ROY !!!! You win at the Internets. Stignasty True. There is a fascination with death. I am fascinated. I watched the video, and I died a little myself on the inside. It was not gruesome compared to some war/death/killing video you can find on the Internet. I believe his hanging should have been televised throughout the world. Everything is so sanitized by the MSM that people cannot have feelings about the incident. The public views it and forgets it. All those soldiers coffins comming home to the US should have been televised. Major operations in Iraq should be televised...... BUT NOT SANITIZED. Give people the raw unbiased camera footage without commentary and let them make up their own minds. People should be disturbed by watching someone else die. It should affect them so they never forget.

Criminal recklessness. Theres no law in the united states that has the ability to impeach for that. Unless he gets behind the wheel of the limo half cocked. If america is in decline, i hope you like learning chinese. 20 years ago, it was 'I hope you like learning Russian' during the Cold War (always people making with the war).... always an outside threat somehow. Always in danger from the out. Also replace 'terrorism' with 'communist Russia' or Nazi Germany and the rhetoric is the same, only the names have changed.

I can say I am not a big fan of Bush as well. Evil SOB. (Son of a Bush) I see your hatred and understand it and I am with you on this one. Baseball bat to the knees would work well on him.

Provide links next time please or else it is all just herasy.. err heresay whatever. And it took you longer to write 'im too lazy to provide link' than to actually search it. Or cut and past it from where you were reading it. Oh you did not read it, you heard it on the news. If it was not for Black Dog, I may have ... whatever. This ammounts to a covert or overt coup against Syria. Coups are bad for countries for the most part and a coup would not be quite as accepted by Syria. Knowing the US would have a hand in it, I am sure most Syrians are aware of the propaganda the US military and the US government that is taking place. Also this was not Bush's plan. This plan has been in the works for a couple decades now. To think this new vision all of a sudden came from Bush himself is naive and not looking at the bigger picture. The US wants to transform the Middle East to something a little more US friendly. Afghanistan is proof. Iraq is proof. It is not about bringing freedom to Iraqis or Iranians or even Syrians. Change comes from within, not without.

Now I am doubting all that I learned in history class. History was written by the winners. The media is run by winners as well. Most can't see through the lies the media portrays, and that is dangerous. You can manipulate whole populations because of the simple fact that they are ignorant. And also they go against their better judgement to say that.. well if its on TV/RADIO, INTERNET it must be true.

Keep looking at him , cause you arent fit to lick his boots. And if by 'lick his boots' you mean 'hang his ass' you still would not be correct.

I'll be happy when they hang those US officials who helped Saddam Hussein out during the 1980's. I am looking at you RUMSFELD !!!

theloniusfleabag I agree on this one. It is to bad that did not happen, I would have loved to hear Rumsfeld testify on his role in it all. It would have made the US look pretty bad. That trial would have lasted much longer. Catchme According to CNN that was enough to put him to death. They were in the process of convicting him for the death of 100,000 Kurds. Again Us officials would have had to testify. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/...obit/index.html Now in no way am I supporting what Hussein did. But if there was to be any real justice served, many US and possibly UN and British officials would have had to testify when they would have rather kept their mouths shut.

Wrong, armys could no better run the operation any better than some government paper pusher who could even find the oil patch. The government found that out when they bought up the oil companies that formed petro can and cost us billions. Turn off the oil taps and your military is baisly useless. Think about it. Unless you have enough oil reserves (meaning refined or stored oil in a facility, not the stuff in the ground still) your army is going nowhere. No fuel for Humvees Tanks Logistic transportation Planes Helicopters Navel ships (ok some are nuke u lar powered) Troops are in for very very long walks.

Big deal. Why is that a problem? Whoooaaaaaaaa nelly. Ok, please say you are kidding me. Do you want to know the truth? Or are you happy just going about your business and taking in at face value everything they say. Do you have kids? Do you teach them that lying is a bad thing, or have you lied to them about that? Are you married? Ever think the wife is lying to you? Don't worry there is nothing wrong with people bullshitting you and lying to you. Or are you more afraid of the truth? The problem is, that since the media is lying to us all, we are not being told what the real truth is. That does not bother you at all in the least? Are you a yes man? This means not only the media is lying, but your government as well. But you don't see a problem with that. NEWSFLASH SCENARIO - Charles Anthony is a racist and is ignorant. Don't talk to him if you encounter him, he is armed and dangerous. ^^^ If that was in the media, slandering you, you would just be fine with that? Or would you say something. A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie is a lie. No problem.

Freeze a glass of water. What happens? The level rises. Melt it, and it will go back to normal. All that ice in the ocean if it melts will not raise the water levels, if anything by water freezing logic, we will have a lower sea level. I think everyone has it backwards. Try that simple experiment. Take a glass of water, mark the level of the water and throw it in the freezer. Did it rise or drop? Once you have recorded those results, take the glass out of the freezer and put it on the counter and let it melt back to water. Recorde the results of that. Seriously, try this. Or here is another experiment. Take a glass of water (room temperature), fill it half way, and then throw some ice in it, but enough ice to float freely in the glass, like an iceburg. Record the level. Now let that glass sit there on the counter untill the ice melts. Did it rise? Lower? Tell me. That island, like all land is being eroded away, but not by rising sea levels. It is just the seas as they are. The currents cause the errosion. Moving water causes the errosion. Not a rising sea level. Although a rising sea level would accelerate the problem. Ok, let's leave Antarctica and other land masses out of this for this sake. The Arctic is really nothing but ice, not much land there at all, if any. A big ice cube in a huge glass of water. If all the ice melts, using the above logic, what will happen to the sea levels? More or less stay the same, but most likely a reduction in the sea levels. When you take into account, ice and snow that is on land and drains into the ocean then you have the possibility of the sea levels rising. And really considering how large the oceans are on our planet, I think debating about the sea levels rising and really affecting the planet as a whole is useless. Tectonic plates shifting COULD affect the sea level. Volcanoes rising out of the sea creating more land in the ocean, so the water is displaced and the water level rises. The earth regulates itself anyways. The cycle of the year and the flow of the currents balances all that out. Homo Sapiens may have contributed to global warming, but that would be really in the last 150 years. Before that, the earth was able to regulate everything on it's own. Our modernization and industrialization of the planet I think has contributed to a global warming, or maybe accelerating a regular cycle of the planet. Ice age, warm age, dinosaurs, METEOR, ice age, gets warmer ect ect. I really think Mother Nature will take care of everything, and that may mean taking care of us in a way we do not want.

The media is in bed with the government. Not to mention the Pentagon and White House have their own media circus. http://www.cbc.ca/cp/media/060831/X083128U.html This is more or less a way to cover up stuff. If you make the news and give the news to others to report it, this seems like the US Government is in their own propaganda war. (And you wonder why it is compared with Nazi Germany so often). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6100906.stm So the media is slanted and biased and filtered and sanatized for your viewing. Those in power get to tell us what is what now without anyone really questioning anything. Sad sad sad. Wake up. EDIT LE http://usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-1...ntagon-pr_x.htm This is proof that the media is lying to you.

sorry to just pounce in here but, i agree with slavik44, teens will 'do it,' no matter what, life tends to 'break' past walls, it is the uncerinty of chaos in masses. i say we open up a civillian orginization, that works with the police as a 'state guard.' control boarder trafic on all sides and put 'undercover' men at work, or bribe people in the illegal system to work for us, 3X what there being paid (we got to play dirty some time) it seems our problem is not the number of police, its the inisutave to get intell and make a bust, i say give every kid on this side of the world a cell phone or pocket pager with a tracker, all for a one time payment of like: $20, i'm sure the parents could buy the phone, but the service wouldn't put a big dent in the corperations, also make it cheap, a home dial, a 911 dial, and 3 freind dials that are programmable for better access and saftey, also put a tracker in their with an ID # the cops could track down, it would help, no? as well, put black box trackers in cars, so we can pinpoint the exact person or persons holding the child, and pull his pretend life in canada, the states, or even mexico into shambles! the trick to catching a criminal, is to make their nessesities spies. what else does a criminal use we can taint to catch them? Why not just 'chip' your kid? Put a RDIF chip in them and track them? Rediculous. Cell phones and pagers can be tossed out the window, or even thrown in another vehicle to throw the cops off. The criminals are always one step ahead of Law and technology. Parents just need to teach their children the old thing, do not talk to strangers. Many of the kids that are abducted are by someone they know. I am not sure how one would fix this problem. If people are getting smuggled out of this country for sexual exploitation in other countries, then regular local law enforcement is not really going to help.

sunsettommy Well then the media (big surprise there) spun that whole thing then right ? http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/...n.accomplished/ Actually from what I see and read, he was talking about major combat operations in Iraq and NOT specificly about that aircraft carrier off San Diego. So who created and perpetuated that 'myth' ? Seems like you are right. But from that one article alone I get two different meanings. Seemed like the Navy and the White House were passing the buck on who actually made the sign.

sunsettommy Last time I checked, there is still a war going on. Just because the Misscommander in Cheif says 'Mission Accomplished' does not mean so. Looks like there is still work to be done. The War on Terror is just getting started. The problem is that the checks and balances that Hussein had in place were pretty brutal and the consequences resulted in death for the most part. You never heard of Sunnis and Shiites going at it this hard when Hussein was in power. Now it is a daily occurance. And oh, a few Iraqi police? They are targeted as much if not more than civilians. But people are correct when they say that Iraq is free. Total freedom means total anarchy. Do whatever the hell you damn well want to. So if chaos and anarchy means that they are free, then Iraq seems to fit that description. Liam. The US should have had 350,000 to 500,000 troops in order to bring security to Iraq from the start. You need at least double the opposing military for an invasion and then to keep security up. After 'MISSION ACCOMPLISHED' troops were being pulled home, there was a reduction in the troop levels from 2004 to 2005 I believe. Now it is just patch work. Ah crap City A is a problem again .. and as soon as they get troops from City B to come and help, city B is under chaos again. Constantly doing the same thing over and over. No progress is being made in that area at all in my view. One area comes under control but another area is in a shitstorm again. This is progress?? You are right, 30,000 troops is just a small fraction of what they really need. Can this be proof that the US is running thin on the military? Where are they going to get that many more troops? The Iraq invasion was a mistake from the start. Every day the crap that goes on in that country solidifies my belief that the US never intended to win, or vacate the country. It was never about freedom or terrorism. If you want an idea of why the US is there, take a look at the locations of where US military installations are being permanently set up. (hint, like Afghanistan, they are near the oil/gas pipelines and refineries.)

BD I have been there for a while, probably longer than PN. Well it is basic observation. 767 hits WTC 1, explodes and one engine is found intact for the most part. You figure a crash and a free fall of a few hundred feet would destroy the engine. 767 hits the Pentagon, but little to no debris is found. From the photos they have of both sites, the engine from WTC has more material in it than what was found at the Pentagon. That does not strike you as odd?? To me it just does not make sense. Logic may need to come into play. Occam's Razor can lick my ass. I hate it when people quote this. Kimmy I agree. The legislation that was passed after 9-11 is what people should also be taking into account. Here is the way I see it. Short brief summary. The US knows it is in an energy crisis, which if not resolved, the economy will collapse. 9/11, Patriot Act, NSA ect ect ect. Martial Law ..ect Fema Camps. Iraq invasion (sorry preemptive war on terror) Peak Oil/Petrodollar collapse, leads to economic depression. Controlling the oil in the Middle East. When oil becomes to expensive to extract and we use to much of another natural resource to extract it, we loose twofold. Oil and what ever we use to extract it. After peak oil, there is less and less oil in the ground and it creates a bell curve. The result of less oil, is our way of life becomes threatened. THIS is what Bush and Co and really saying in my view. The American way of life is being threatened for sure. But not by terrorists. Once oil is on the down turn, you cannot power everything you had before. Can't move as many vehicles per day, cannot heat as many homes, or cannot provide electricity to people. Transporation slows down and goods and services no longer travel half way around the planet to get to you. Most of the FOOD you eat and buy from grocery chains, does not come from any local farmer. Family farms have been replaced by corporate farms. What happens to the machine when there is no more oil to grease the wheels? Or what happens to the machine when you cannot give it as much oil as it needs. It starts to fail. Cuts are made to non essential areas. Moving food around will become quite hard. I live in Ottawa Canada, no more California grapes for me. With the energy bubble bursting and the food supply becomes interrupted (not to mention killing fast food chain restaurants) Many people are going to be looking for food. Many many people. How does one avoid this crisis? Gotta control the population so things don't get out of hand. Large camps are going to be set up to control this population that is in search of food. I see utter chaos, for everyone thinks this breakneck speed of progression and economic 'growth' will just keep on growing. Wake up, there is more at stake here. Predictions on North America reaching peak oil in 2005-2010. Russia and Europe by 2015. The more China and other countries progress, the energy consumption rises dramaticly. Remember Bush's statement after 9/11 - Go back to the mall, spend spend spend. Everything is fine. War on Oil, not terror. More later.

Black Dog He was talking about the engines. Those should have made holes, or at least made some damage to the outside walls where they would have hit. To say that the wings folded in on then fuselage and was dragged in is quite ludicrus from my view. Those wings would have sheared off and a good deal of wing/engine should have been laying on the lawn somewhere. To address the CD for WTC 1 and 2, you do not need to wire up the whole building. Only key parts. The design of the WTC was unique as well. Only the Sears Tower in Chicago comes close to the design of the WTC. I am on the notion that it is possible the planes has explosived on them as well. Yesterday they put up the first beam for the Freedom Tower. It will be 1776 feet tall. Symbolic in nature as well. 1776 was the year of the US's Declaration of Independance. Those light standards should have ripped the plane up. Some damage to the wings should have happened, and more debris than what was found, SHOULD have been there. How many light posts were damaged? 4-8 of them? (not 100% sure). Not to mention the engine of one of the 767's that hit WTC 1-2 was found a couple blocks away and mostly intact. From the photos (do a search) you can tell it is an engine from a large aircraft. That engine hit the WTC, then fell a few hundred feet and crashed on the sidewalk. Quite different from the Pentagon crash. Little to no debris from the engines. What we should look at for the Pentagon, is take Google Earth for example. Angle your view so you can get an idea of where the plane came into the Pentagon. Now you may not get a 3D view of the surroundings, but with other maps of the area, you should be able to determine how clear the path was into the Pentagon. Actually what I suggest is to fly a 767 into the Sears tower and record the results. Crazy idea, I know. Not really practicle as well. I know Polynewbie is a bit extreem and I find some of his claims outrageous and have end up ignoring alot of what he now dwells on. Something more happened that day, and we have yet to see what the result really was of that tragic day. Black God, you ignore PNs claim about the US turning into a police state. It is quite far off yet, but much is in place to get there. Instead of bringing it in RIGHT after 9-11, it will take time and be really subtle. People do not notice small changes as much as big ones. And most of the population does not consider the small stuff, and put 2 and 2 together. I have researched it some and there are about 5 executive orders that, by themselves do not a whole lot, but together, they are a forumula for Martial Law. The language in which these laws and orders are written confuse many. Even me. So much language clutter it washes away the clear picture of the true meaning. When people get confused, they say 'screw it, I don't understand it' and then throw it aside. Politicians know this and take advantage of it. Just look around and find out how many in congress/senate actually read the Patriot Act before it was signed into law. To have a senate vote on a piece of very important legislature that no one is really certain of what it is about. They have not read it. Those politicians have failed us. Yet they will be the first to call you unpatriotic at every turn when you disagree with them. Britian is practicly there with all the CTC's and now some are mounted with speakers. Big Brother talks back. I gotta get back to work, I will give you my theory why all this is happening. That should take some time to write out.

Canadian Blue The reason why I personaly like PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.net is that most of the time the articles are linked to the original source. A source that would be considered 'legit' in your view. Come on man, the news is filtered with more than just a Brita. MSM does not and will not touch it. here laugh at this site too http://freepressinternational.com I love this site, and I have not made up my mind on what this site is trying to do, but maybe warn us of something. Real news gets to the fringe and comes from the fringe as well.