Army Guy

Let me spell it out slowly, within our justice system terrorist, murders, and soldiers are treated differently, with different laws, with varying punishments..if gang members are convicted of murder they get 25 years or life, a Terrorist charged with murder gets 8 years and 10 mil dollar settlement, a soldier who is obeying orders gets no charges at all no settlements, sweet FA...That is according to history and our laws....meaning each is treated differently according to our justice system....which would translate into they are not considered the same crime and do no carry the same sentence...regardless of what you and Marcus think...

Once again you go down a road with little knowledge on the topic... First off Police and soldiers have different powers , Soldiers are only allowed to be used in domestic ops with governmental orders, such as protecting Olympic games, or G-8 conferences or responding to a provincial request such as aid to power, dart missions, etc etc... ...the government has the right to suspend your rights when they feel it is nessicary , it has already happened in our history...they can suspend one or all of them as they see fit....During normal day to day operations Police will respect your rights given to you by our government of the time....Those same rights will govern all military missions in Canada...until you break the law, and some of your rights are going to be bruised a little.. Lawful Orders are not based just on your constitutional rights, they are based Geneva convention, military law, Canadian civil law, and government policies/ orders at the time.. For example the riots in Toronto had gone on to long and the military was called in , they would have used force to stop those riots, the level of force is decided by the government, not soldiers...that means if for some crazy reason deadly force was authorized how many of your constitutional rights would have been broken..."as many of them as nessicary to complete the mission"..... Your rights can be changed at any time by our government... The government decides what your rights are and they can be changed in an afternoon if need be....like I said the FLQ / OKA crises are an example....most of the citizens rights were suspended. once again the government decides what is lawful and what is not.... The courts are run by the government in case you have not been following the SNC thingy.....

It has everything to do with Islam, and the terrorist own understanding of those Islamic scriptures...Just as Christian terrorist who use the bible to explain away their attacks .. to deny this is to deny the entire problem here...Religion has killed more people in the world than everything else combined...

What does the law say about that Marcus....perhaps you and jacee could lay it all out for us....Canadian law and inter national law have separate laws for terrorist, separate laws for Murders, and separate laws for Military personal who are defending their countries, plus military personal are subjected to Geneva Convention , Canadian civil and military law as well ... According to the law they don't receive the same punishment, a gang member will get 25 years no parole, a convicted terrorist gets 8 around years and a 10 million dollar payout, and an F-16 pilot who drops bombs on targets designated by our government gets Nothing, but has to fight his government for pensions or medical payouts ....Your rendition of events is nothing more than your opinion, because some army girl stole your boy friend.

Could you give us some examples of cut throat conservatives creating anxiety and fear.....

You may have read the OP , but you did not understand it....Your OP is talking about RCMP, CSIS, and Public safety , All federal Depts, there for all part of the Federal government . Local/ provincial policing and take their ques and most of their intel from the above listed federal depts., very few large Canadian cities have there own intel network for terrorist or far right extremist. but you knew that already because you read the op right....but then you keep misquote it so maybe you did not read it very well.....

Anyone with half a brain, and some life experience would also agree they are Wrong, you have a small sample of Canada's population response and yet you are good with that, must be true it was in the intra net, so you've automatically assumed, that all Canadians feel this way.....you yourself have painted all Canadians the same....I offered you another opinion, you did not like it, and assumed once again I was wrong....see how this is going around in circles...why don't you reevaluate your issue with new info ? lots of assumptions out there , that are wrong but some people think are facts, like most Asians can not drive worth a shit....or all Asian are smart .

Do you mean like the Muslim women who are now in custody of Syrian free army or Kurds, most of them are saying openly that they agreed with ISIS and the killing, and all that goes with being a member of ISIS and now they want to come home so they can suck of the western tit of free things...so they can start preparing for the next Jihad......and yet many here in the west see those tears and ask why can we not bring them back" That is what sets my evil detector off.

That is not what you said you quoted that the government does not track far right extremists....which is not TRUE, period..... This is a double edge sword , with people being guilty of these acts on both sides, not just extremist right wing nuts....these new laws or policies you want to bring in have to reflect this...But in Canada today we can not debate this openly for fear of being called a racists or Islamophobic….look at this site for instance.... Both have responded to this incident....they were late getting out of the gate, that does not mean in any way they agree with the attack, your pulling straw out of your ass again....

Maybe you should reread what he wrote, he said that the Quran does have passages in it that promotes mistreatment of non Muslims...would that be a yes or no.....also can scripture in the Quran be changed or modernized , is that permitted...yes or no, if it can not be brought into the 21 st century how can it evolve, does it not tie the moderates hands behind their backs does it not... And yet when a ex Muslim living in Europe made a drawing of Mohamad he had death threats placed upon his life, from all over Europe, North America, from around the globe , normally these people are what we considered moderate Muslims live in these areas..….Next the day of 9/11 happened US new agencies were broadcasting from many Muslim countries , who were not suffering or disgusted by the attack, nor where they condemning the attack, instead they were celebrating the terrorist act, and calling them martyrs....It is hard to see them as the peaceful Muslims you want us to believe most are.....I have also visited a lot of Muslim countries, including some that are consider moderate or civilized such as turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and they are not so much friendly , but you draw a cartoon of Mohamad here or condemn Islam you run the risk of losing your life or arrested to languish in a Turkish prison.......... Yes i'm sure there are a lot of peaceful, and very moderate Muslims... but do you think they are the majority, or minority ?

Justin could not be conservative, he's a joke, no more conservative than whats her name owner of the green party....

sounds like a liberal, Justin is that you....

We need to cut corporate welfare in this country.....how many parties have that in their election campaigns....only one...

Ask your self WHY the contrate on Islamic terrorism....could it be that 95 % of todays terrorism are carried out by people with Islamic back grounds, could it be that these Islamic terrorist are well funded, and their attacks are far more dangerous, "with a few exceptions Tim mcvhea attack was very potent..." How much resources do you think they have to counter these terrorist attacks, I mean how many people do you think are employed to track and surveill all these possible terrorist, be it Islamic or white racist.....and while you seem to be directing your anger towards CSIS and RCMP, maybe you should be pointing towards the man with control over budgets....start your research right there and follow the money....Why is it their budget is so low, because Canadians want it that way.... Despite what Jaccee try's and feed you as the truth ….she is full of shit....read the below link and while it is not much it does state that CSIS alone tracks over 100 extreme right wing groups...it does not mention RCMP, or Military Intel which also tracks domestic and inter national terrorist groups....each with their own budgets, all are underfunded when compared to actual treats in Canada. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1057610X.2016.1139375?journalCode=uter20 Closing web sites is an ongoing battle with all policing services, as fast as they close them new ones pop up.....once again these guys are on a budget , and they do wonders with what they have but it is not enough.....But all this is a matter of public record, budgets, manning, equipment requests etc etc all public, goggle that shit....

Once again I will repeat my above statement...It is next to impossible to prove ANY wrong doing of any of these people...to the level of burden of proof in Canada.... These terrorist know that, and take advantage of that, they joined ISIS a known terrorist group, to take part in that groups terrorist activities... with no fear of getting caught, or facing criminal charges...And because of that reason we do not want them in the country. so they may come and go as they want to commit mayhem any where in the world.... Fighters are not the only problem here, women have also taken part in these criminal activities, via recruiting, organizing financial aid, providing any aid to the enemy is a legal form of treason, another reason we do not want them back into the country......which now leaves only the children that have no blood on their hands... child services should strip them from their parents and place them up for adoption....unless of course you see a reason why these terrorist make good parents... In the end the courts will decide, and if the liberals get voted out i'm sure the laws will be changing.....and then all this bleating and crying about bringing these scumbags back into the country will be just liberals and greens bleating about how we are abusing their rights....but here is the real question, when did we forget about the rights of all the Iraqi or Syrian civilians that these terrorist marched out into the desert to cut their heads off.....Who stands up for those individuals not the liberals or the green, let them all face justice in Iraq or Syria...

Yes, your right, i'm wrong, good talk.....it's got to be true it was on the intra net right....good luck with that.

Not all these home grown terrorist are just Canadian , they in fact hold dual citizenship....therefore the law states they can be striped of Canadian citizenship and sent back to their orginal countries..... Yes they are, but in case you have not been listening , it is next to impossible to gather enough evidence to convict them in our courts, which gives them caret blanch to do what ever they want to whom ever they want with out consequences…. well ok Canada is making them take some poetry , and arts and crafts lessons at our expense hoping they will forgive us and become a productive member of our nation....Most people are saying thats bullshit, we should change our laws, to make it tougher on these scumbags, besides I think most Canadians are wiling to just leave them in what ever shit hole they find themselves today....by refusing entrance into Canada or the use of a Canadian passport....they can call themselves what the F*** the want just not able to travel any where.... Yes the children are innocent, perhaps they can be sent to Canada and seized and adopted out to normal Canadian families....I mean most of these kids were born in Iraq, and in most countries that would make them Iraqi would it not....

It's easy to sit in your chair in the safety of your home, under security provided by men and women who defend our nations, by risking their lives to kill these scumbags you deem human and deserve some kind or rights or respect......and then have the balls to try to explain why a terrorist is the same as a gang member who is the same as a soldier, or pilot....Thats rich....but ok your entitled to your opinion....One day when you leave mom basement your going to find the world is not all peaches and cream you think it is , that in reality it is full of bad people who's only goal in life is to bring pain to your life....one day your going to wake up and thank those men and women who defend our nations allowing you the freedoms to waste band width on this forum....

If by now you still don't see a huge misjudgment here by the liberals then you deserve what ever our corrupt liberal government hands to you...I on the other hand will be down at the voting station not only to vote for any party except liberals but also to choke the shit out of liberals like you, until you come to your senses.........And if your OK with all the lying , cheating, misleading , corrupt liberals..... you share different morals and values than the rest of Canadians.

Your using university kids as your example, the same kids that do not have any world experience, have probably never even seen an American, let alone talk to them, base their opinions on false data or what has been passed around the university...So ya i'm telling you it's bullshit, how can you paint all 300 plus million of them with one brush kind of like saying all Asians are shitty drivers, or need glasses.

Why would I be imprisoned , our nation has always stood next to the US of A , maybe you should put the pipe down , sober up a little bit...look at what happened the day of 911, stranded Americans were brought into Canadian homes, our PM told the US anything they need as only a phone call away..... and then ask me if we would join the rest of the world in fighting the US....

well a couple of steps better than being European....i'll give you that...As far as moving next to Europe let them , shit i'll buy them a ticket, we have more in common with the US than any other nation in the world, we depend on the US for not only our security, but also finically as well, our cultures are inter twined.... to the point we don't have that much in common with Europe any more.... If the whole world turned against them Canadians would stand shoulder to shoulder with the US, don't let all that bickering or complaining fool you..The answer is yes, I would and have already. would I risk my family....shit son they are my family....

Yes they did purchase a pipeline, but tell me without laughing "did the liberals act fast enough" on several fronts, one pushing the construction through via using already established legislation, two ensuring that all the conditions were adhered to by the letter, not just engaging with native talking heads, and not all those that needed to be consulted, like hereditary chiefs, the cleaner down at timmies, and a paw print from lassy...this is not the liberals first rodeo....they should have had it right..... Quebec is not blocking the pipeline because they are concerned about the environment, it is because there is nothing in it for them.... Your claim of holding on for better land claims sounds a lot like horse shit, she refused the position because she could not defend the current Indian act as a whole...she would have had an inside seat if she had accepted to make changes nobody else could.....as for settling land claims, when totaled their are valued at more than a trillion dollars, we as a nation can not afford that amount, we will never see all these land claims settled. Her political ambitions are not looking good here right now, nor when she stepped down, she can never hope to lead the liberals, if she sits as an independent she gets nothing, maybe if she crosses the floor...that is perhaps her only move right now....and if she does cross I doubt she will get a high profile job.... Trudeau did what he did because it was in his best interest, and his plan fell to the floor in pieces, it actually became a run comical affair watching them every day spew lie after lie....sorry I don't want him leading anything except maybe another drama dept....

WTF does this mean we can only care about Quebec's jobs and people, 100,000 jobs have been lost in the oil patch, those are real numbers.....how many jobs were tanked when Quebec said no to energy east, how much SNC corruption has been proven right here in Canada ....Even the liberals can't say for certain how many jobs would or could be lost.....as for them moving their HQ out of the country , never happen, thats already been proven false....

How is it you have not been banned yet...