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I'm really suprised you guys are either diverting the main point here. Its not about the $90000, it is that the $90,000 had conditions attached. That is what is illegal. Paying back the $90000 as a gift is totally legal. However, saying I will give you this $90000 if you agree not to communicate with the media is illegal. A payment for acts is not the same as a gift with no strings attached. The secondary issues are that everyone has a different story meaning the PM either lied to the public or has no idea what is going on in his office. The 90000 wasn't a gift it was shutup money which is a bribe and is illegally influencing a legislator to act or ommit acts that would otherwise be of public interest, especially when this issue was raised IN parliament. Failure to be honest or truthful with bribe money behind it is very illegal. The 90000 itself is not the issue, the fact the 90000 was a bribe is the issue. As gift no biggie, as a bribe, CRIMINAL and an indictable offence.. very serious. The PMO's and even the prime minster either or acted to cover that fact up, or Nigel Wright, and/or duffy obstructed or misled the RCMP also criminal. Criminal offenses occurred, it is just a question of who committed them at this point. The money isn't the issue, it is what the money was for, and it wasn't just to pay back Duffy's promised housing expenses and other party activities. Giving gifts is one thing,, there are tax laws on that.. but money for acts or ommissions of specific government officials, that include senators, VERY illegal. This isn't about paying money back it is about bribes to shut up legislators who are suppose to be acting for the public of a province, not for a Toronto business persons interests, or on an unelected Prime Ministers orders. Legislators are suppose to be representative of their constituents and seat, and the public interest, not for an unelected officials wishes to censor free speech of legislators in their dealings with the media. The law was broken that is the issue, not 90000 was given to pay back housing expenses. This goes back in some respect to the Chuck Cadman issue. "But when the widow and the daughter of a respected former B.C. MP claim that the Conservatives tried to pay a $1-million insurance policy for a vote, the Globe and Mail somehow managed to bury this story within the pages of the paper. " how much bribery is going on in the PMO? and what private funds are being used to do it? "Other national media outlets are also underplaying this issue. The slavishly pro-Stephen Harper National Post also didn't put this story on its front page on Thursday or Friday, even though Chuck Cadman's widow Dona claims her husband was offered the benefit for voting against the 2005 Liberal budget. " http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/parliament39/cadman.html In my mind this is just screaming... so how many uncaught bribes are happening. Its like saying how many unreported crimes are occuring. Obviouly the conservatives were aware of unreported crimes, now things are making a little more sense. New smelling prisons, unreported crimes.. the conservative game is becoming ever more clear.

Why is that we have a whole bunch of countries spying on Canada... some of those are intelligence partners like the US Britain and france.. which allow for sharing through groups like the 5 I's and Echelon Royal. Meanwhile we have monitoring of sigintel from Alert god knows where, and the entire backbone monitored. This breaking news isn't breaking news at all.. it was released over a decade ago, about programs like PRISM.. none the less the whole thing is ... who has the authority to access the information and what words and communication points are automatically warrants for monitoring. It is more so knowns that are monitored not just noise. Groups like the CSE mil counter intel and mil counter counter intel all exist in the national security framework and outside "civil law" national security is not civil or jducially warranted because it isn't traditionally criminal investigation.. sadly due to obscuring the laws on terrorism and putting it in the CcC things have become very grey. One can only assume that Canada is under martial law. We have automatic detentions without warrants for indefinite periods on suspicion and secret trials Civil law only exists for fancy it really doesn't exist anymore in terms of the way things use to be. It is based on necessity of the executive not determination of the judiciary. The judicature is no longer the judge on habeas corpus or other constitutional rights.. the constitution is suspended due to unconstitutional legislation which is blindly supported by the masses. the problem with challenging those laws is there is no access to do so short of actually defending yourself and person by use of force if force is being used... so effectively it will look very bad to resist it because the public in the name of "needs" against terrorism. blindly accepts the loss of the constitutional protections... people are left to trust the executive as they once trusted the judiciary. the executive has become the judiciary of first instance for rights that it never previous had for the same duration nor the same extent. thankfully the abusive provisions weren't used in this instance.. however I am still a little curious on the actions leading up to this.. particularly the "diversion" due to hazardous materials, and the police showing up at their apartment some time before, it shows a rather long period of police actions in the weeks not on short notice.. I'm wondering if a search warrant was obtained or executed at the time they faked the chemical spill. --- there are much worse things that could have happened, these people if so are being cast as goofs, not threats... they use KGB methods on threats.. that is they disappear, end up tortured and drugged if not worse.. but the names seems familiar I just can't recall where they are from.

except this ins't the US sounds like buying new subs every 10 years would cost less than upkeeping them. none the less i'm curious what terrorist groups have a subsurface or surface fleet? Isn't Afghanistan landlocked?

I was actually very suprised how many Hazmat incidents there are... today http://hazmat.globalincidentmap.com/map.php none the less the natives are right, we need better safety systems to insure industrial waste and hazourdous materials don't enter our public air and water systems, or public soil as well as those things personal to us, and that they do not cross provincial or federal, including native teritorial boundaries without consent of those adminsitrations. The federal government is making a grave error with sacrificing the natural environment especially watersheds by allowing profit before public safety. Peoples health has been adversely effected by petrochemical companies who do not have sufficient safe gaurds as well as industries which do not put the local environment before their own profit. The natives are right. The law was broken but for the public good. I would let someone blow someone elses head off if they were going to release the ebola virus into a populated area... relatively this act was a good act from the message attached. One must question if the mind is criminal, and while there could have been ways which did not require the deprivation of property.. I think that their is a sincere risk.. sadly the federal government and courts don't care about the public health before corporate profit, as far as I can tell. That is just part of the fascist system embedded into Canada. What is the higher cause.. corporate profit over public safety... This was brought on by a failure of the federal government to create safety measures that protect the public. If these natives can do it some terrorist can. None the less, imo perhaps Stantec may be able to sue for civil damages... none the less they are native so the chance of jail time is much higher than if these were some white yuppy kids.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/07/05/pol-rcmp-duffy-documents.html Media coverage that the RCMP saying that "there were" conditions attached to 90k money transfer to a senator.., this seems relevant. --- It sounds like a bribe to shut duffy up at first sight.. definitely would be illegal in that case. Payment to a sitting senator for acts or omissions is very illegal in Canada. should the RCMP be right my guess is this should go to court. None the less based upon the complete corruption of government I will be suprised to see it advance that way. 16. (1) No member of the Senate shall receive or agree to receive any compensation, directly or indirectly, for services rendered or to be rendered to any person, either by the member or another person, (a) in relation to any bill, proceeding, contract, claim, controversy, charge, accusation, arrest or other matter before the Senate or the House of Commons or a committee of either House; or (b) for the purpose of influencing or attempting to influence any member of either House. Marginal note:Offence and punishment(2) Every member of the Senate who contravenes subsection (1) is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not less than one thousand dollars and not more than four thousand dollars. Marginal note:Offering prohibited compensation(3) Every person who gives, offers or promises to any member of the Senate any compensation for services described in subsection (1), rendered or to be rendered, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year and to a fine of not less than five hundred dollars and not more than two thousand dollars. R.S., c. S-8, s. 23. 119. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years who (a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, directly or indirectly, corruptly accepts, obtains, agrees to accept or attempts to obtain, for themselves or another person, any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by them in their official capacity, or (b) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives or offers to a person mentioned in paragraph (a), or to anyone for the benefit of that person, any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by that person in their official capacity. Marginal note:Consent of Attorney General(2) No proceedings against a person who holds a judicial office shall be instituted under this section without the consent in writing of the Attorney General of Canada. R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 119; 2007, c. 13, s. 3. 121. (1) Every one commits an offence who (a) directly or indirectly (i) gives, offers or agrees to give or offer to an official or to any member of his family, or to any one for the benefit of an official, or (ii) being an official, demands, accepts or offers or agrees to accept from any person for himself or another person, a loan, reward, advantage or benefit of any kind as consideration for cooperation, assistance, exercise of influence or an act or omission in connection with (iii) the transaction of business with or any matter of business relating to the government, or (iv) a claim against Her Majesty or any benefit that Her Majesty is authorized or is entitled to bestow, whether or not, in fact, the official is able to cooperate, render assistance, exercise influence or do or omit to do what is proposed, as the case may be; Also I have to say fining a senator $1000 for taking a bribe is a joke, whereby the person who pays goes to jail for a year... why is their a double standard in the law if people are suppose to be equal before the law?

What? You must explain this comment. --- Conservatives renewing is an oxymoron to Canadians Forgetting. It is surprising what over-medication and dementia can do to a baby boomer past prime voting landscape.

yeah half a billion to refit the subs.. how much do new ones cost...? none the less it is done hopefully they are good refit... "The Russians have sold diesel submarines for as little as $200 million and the French have exported their Scorpene submarines for $300 million." odd this from 2011 "HMCS Chicoutimi, has been in active service of the Royal Canadian Navy exactly two days in the 13 years since it was purchased from the Brits. The Chicoutimi caught fire on its maiden voyage from the U.K. to Canada, killing one sailor and injuring a number of others. It has been in the repair shop ever since, and isn’t expected back in service for at least another two years and $400 million more in repairs and retrofits." is this 400 million for the chicoutimi and 131 million for the other 3 subs maintenance?

its not just menzies about 5 cabinet ministers minimum will not be running in the next election and have seemed to say they should not get a cabinet post.. most are older than 60.. this includes Le Breton who is 73.. and the tories say no more cabinet posts will come from the senate, which is a pretty broad and shortsighted statement. the senate is filled with some of the most experienced people around. They are going into retirement from politics. There will probably be a few more before 2015. there will be a major shift in finance (this potentially in relation to changes in industry and trade as well as the central bank). its just a question of who.. from what I can tell foreign affairs, maybe citizenship and finance, an potentially public safety will all change. but flaherty will likely stay on as minister of finance... People to watch are baird and kenney to see if their portfolios change. the rest will be back benchers.. people say it will all be people from western canada. imo the biggest change may be public safety. if it doesn't come now there is a good chance it will happen before 2015. the other posts are minor such as fisheries, and ministers of state. also it seems environment may also see a change... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/environment-minister-signals-he-may-leave-in-cabinet-shuffle/article13023539/ not that type of climate change silly. ok everyones name in a hat now...

really, kindly supply information, immigration shifted to smaller communities in countries such as the US,... well if there isn't room. then it looks like people won't have homes? doesn't make sense to me. None the less I advocate for a better immigration settlement system one which takes into account and provides a supply demand basis for labour. example what are the persons skills, where are those skills in demand etc.. with factors such as sponsorship. But no there is plenty of land beyond the tundra, there are various areas with a demand for skills. I do as said think that the system could be vastly improved and should involve more consultation. None the less I would guess there are already existing communities for these minority groups in urban areas. I do need to state one more time I do agree to certain extent but it is not as simple as there is no room, there is room. but it isn't necesarily the ideal long term settlement location. It is vital that refugees are settled into the system with work available where they would like to stay from a list of options.. where support programs exist for adjustment to the new culture.

Are you suggesting Sledxi for the witner time? n think now much money the municipalities could save in not ploughing roads and sidewalks and instead renting out pedal operated ski sleds. just pedal to move the ski poles / / / / / / / / / / /

We will know the end is near by the time of the year... when the fig tree..... et stellae caeli ceciderunt super terram sicut ficus mittit grossos suos cum vento magno movetur obviously it will lead to... ..... et caelum recessit sicut liber involutus et omnis mons et insulae de locis suis motae sunt 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The bill of rights does, and the bill of rights is still very much in effect. http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-12.3/ "(a) the right of the individual to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property, and the right not to be deprived thereof except by due process of law;" due process is an important consideration, in exactly what that means, especially in an era where Canada is entering warrantless arrests, arbitrary extended detention, and secret trials. This in addition to political executive actions and authority without Governor General central authority as the point of executive origin, and likewise, where the courts themselves are becoming increasingly dominated by partisan forces. This is not all bad for all people, but the idea of it should be very clear in why the concept of due process of law becomes an existential concept. It is more than ever a two tier society one where executive officers have the power to act in their own coven, while individual citizens have no rights if the privileged wish the to be deprived by the privileged as opposed to the premise of equality before the law, and protection of the law. It is a giant step backward to a time where the people's rights did not exist. Now I would not say that the occurrence was not a pro bono act. The guns were likely safer in storage. I have yet to hear any reports of guns being damaged while in storage. Everyone will likely be going through problems. I have yet to hear how complex the onus that has been placed is. Perhaps people have the serial number or description of their gun? I think the story that we are not hearing is, how many people cannot claim their gun because they don't have a PAL, and had it "illegally". There are other issues though like needing to go to the RCMP detachment I think people could ask for an injunction or go through the courts as opposed to the RCMP to request the gun mailed back to them or deliver to the court etc.. there are avenue but I think in this instance it will be faster for people just to go get their gun if it is legal. Of course they may be able to write it off and bill the province for the value of the gun if it is not returned. As any confiscated materials during the emergency can be claimed if damaged, destroyed, lost etc..as a result of seizure. It seems the ID process isn't overly complex..... "owners must have photo identification and a possession acquisition licence," the photo id thing is strange, as isn't the PAL... a photo ID why have a double requirement? Apparently the PAL is not 100% required to be physically produced.. so I am guessing photo ID in absence of the physical pal is sufficient as "If owners cannot produce the document, police can check the Canadian Police Information Centre computer" This is confusing though "If an owner has the licence, police can also give weapons to a friend or relative to store." source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/rcmp-returning-seized-guns-to-high-river-residents/article12973758/

Apparently foreign affairs just approved 1600 syrians... because there is a war in Syria. Its not like assad wouldn't let the women have babies. Sure there are probably going to be issues but I think this chinawoman thing is being blown out of proportion by some people. You know there is lots of room in Canada.. I think it is a valid human rights concern. Probably a bit like the syrian refugees who see their country locked in an endless war where terrorism will escalate and they will potentially be killed by either side. But wow 1600, a small number of people sure but I'm curious how this processing was done.

It pisses me off people take a police statement as the truth. It is their position. Wait until court, as clearly the other side hasn't been heard. We havn't seen the investigative information only statements relating to the event that being recovery of pressure cookers with some sort of explosives that seemed to have been planted a day early? Which doesn't really make sense. Also the name of the woman is really familiar either military intelligence or communications, or a protestor or something I know I have read the name in the news before. No idea about the guy. None the less.. these people visited a local mosque a few times, and don't appear to have been indoctrinated. Even the police say they were self learned, yet hold on? From where, the internet? Do they have any link to al qaeda.. well none so why even use the word al qaeda. Radical Islamist Terrorism no even that doesn't do it they'd probably be abducting jews and cutting their heads off if that was the case. Chenyian inspired terrorism much closer to home. None the less all we now is that the cops were running operations on them including a sting operation and inspecting the residence without a warrant. apparently on an undercover operation. Right there brings in the potential of evidence tampering or manipulation. But it does appear authentic.. but we havn't heard the otherside. It would be wonderful if people let the accused defend themselves before saying what happened. While the truth may never be known, atleast this wasn't an arbitrary arrest under the terrorism laws that allow secret trial, arrest without warrant, and indefinate holdings without access to justice. Atleast these are real charges, we can be thankful for that. The police really freaked them out though by the under cover op.. it threw them off big time, causing them to not spend time at home, which was related to apparently not being able to pay their rent, possibly to move... and basically they hit the wall so if this went on.. it was likely the spook operation that actually caused them to a dead end in life and force them to the extreme of the act.. which is another example of how police operations can cause crimes.. not keep the peace. None the less hopefully this won't be a ridicoulously long trial like the g20 conspiracy riots trials. Like quick and to the point just the facts leave the story at home.\ My geuss one or all three things tipped off the RCMP 1. Visiting a mosque and not being muslim raised. i.e. convert 2. visiting websites online that were flagged such as sites not about pressure cooker recipes. 3. and I've forgotten the third... Can you imagine how many people would be the list for the second one, who here hasn't visited radical islamist websites and learned about making pressure cooker bombs, arn't we suppose to know why we are killing and arresting them? Euh, none the less I still havn't figure out why these pressure cookers are so good, is this the same as a rice cooker? The PSI In an air compressor is way bigger, and can be operated off of a remote battery why are people using cookware? I don't really get it but yeah, clearly seems pretty sick. It seems pretty open and closed but still I'd rather see the facts from trial rather than people saying the cops said its true. Cops and the crown lie. I'm not saying these cops have, but I am saying they do. "It is their story, not the truth per se."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQo34x7bcYA You may remember when this was implemented... BTW was the patdown obligatory before the scanners were brought in? Or is this one of them escalatons of standard security that was brought in. I remember flying before this and they generally scanned belongings, a patdown didn't happen. Now it is patdown or you go through the scanner. It seems if the scanners are removed, unlikely, that patdowns will stay.. These are ok... what about these.. or the car scanners or the house scanners? If police and military arn't aware of the dangerous of radiation both their and others exposure then how will over use of these technologies on people who are exposed to multiple sources going to be protected? And what happens when remote robot drones start doing it instead of humans? This isn't just in the US the UK Has also been developing a system... newer safer? no warrant required... well why not me? Or that perv? or just the curious? What about theives?

1. Disaster zones can be looted, 2. Police require a judicial warrant to conduct a search. This is not to a say a judicial warrant or power to search in event of a disaster such as a flood did not exist to prevent the loss of life and property. Indeed an emergency was declared. Now if a provincial emergency is declared then it is likely local municipal police that do that sort of policing operation. Who does high river policing. Indeed the RCMP is the provincial police force in Alberta, in addition to the Federal Police. They were acting on a provincial emergency declaration made by Alison Redford the premier of Alberta. 3. Some of the guns may have been protected by the seizure. 4. Proof of ownership is complex. Police should have recorded where the guns were taken from, such as house number. providing ID should be enough to prove ownership because they were on their premises. Although there may be exceptions where a gun may have been stored on someone elses property. Police should be able to determine illegal weapons by cross reference PALs with the registered address to determine if any suspicious weapons exist held by unlicensed individuals. A house is a very large case, none the less, yes people could have broken firearms storage rules. People should seriously consider taking prohibited and restricted and non restricted firearms with them, transferring them to their vehicle etc..much the same as prescription medications. People have a duty to prevent transfer of those items including by negligence. While it is understandable that life comes before property, people who had time to secure especially prohibited and restricted items should have done so by keeping them in an area they have control and access to. None the less, I would suggest 1. That police issue instructions to secure or surrender controlled materials if enough time exists to prevent involuntary seizure as it causes people to feel violated and victimized. 2. That proper record keeping is kept to insure seized property includes the place of seizure. Now I wouldn't say in all this the cops weren't the bad guy, it seems like they were just acting on a Provincial emergency declaration. I'm not familiar with any provincial laws, but both the provinces and the federal government have access to the federal emergencies act, so yes in effect martial law was declared, or as close as Canada gets to Martial law without wartime actions imposed. It is the closest civil state to martial law when the emergencies act is invoked. http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/E06P8.pdf A local authority (a) shall, at all times, be responsible for the direction and control of the local authority’s emergency response unless the Government assumes direction and control under section 18; ( shall prepare and approve emergency plans and programs; © may enter into agreements with and make payments or grants, or both, to persons or organizations for the provision of services in the development or implementation of emergency plans or programs. RSA 2000 cD-13 s11;2007 c12 s9;2010 c5 s4 Declaration of state of emergency 18(1) The Lieutenant Governor in Council may, at any time when the Lieutenant Governor in Council is satisfied that an emergency exists or may exist, make an order for a declaration of a state of emergency relating to all or any part of Alberta. (4) Unless continued by a resolution of the Legislative Assembly, an order under subsection (1) expires at the earlier of the following: (a) at the end of 14 days, but if the order is in respect of a pandemic influenza, at the end of 90 days; ( when the order is terminated by the Lieutenant Governor in Council. Powers of Minister in emergency 19(1) On the making of the declaration and for the duration of the state of emergency, the Minister may do all acts and take all necessary proceedings including the following: (e) control or prohibit travel to or from any area of Alberta; (g) cause the evacuation of persons and the removal of livestock and personal property from any area of Alberta that is or may be affected by a disaster and make arrangements for the adequate care and protection of those persons or livestock and of the personal property; (h) authorize the entry into any building or on any land, without warrant, by any person in the course of implementing an emergency plan or program; (5) On the making of an order under section 18(1), the Managing Director or some other person whom the Minister appoints is responsible for the co-ordination and implementation of any or all necessary plans or programs prepared pursuant to this Act and all persons and agencies involved in the implementation are subject to the control and direction of the Managing Director or other person appointed. RSA 2000 cD-13 s19;2007 c12 s11;2010 c5 s8 Powers of local authority 24(1) On the making of a declaration of a state of local emergency and for the duration of the state of local emergency, the local authority may do all acts and take all necessary proceedings including the following: (a) cause any emergency plan or program to be put into operation; ( exercise any power given to the Minister under section 19(1) in relation to the part of the municipality affected by the declaration; © authorize any persons at any time to exercise, in the operation of an emergency plan or program, any power given to the Minister under section 19(1) in relation to any part of the municipality affected by a declaration of a state of local emergency. (1.1) If the local authority acquires or utilizes real or personal property under subsection (1) or if any real or personal property is damaged or destroyed due to an action of the local authority in preventing, combating or alleviating the effects of an emergency or disaster, the local authority shall cause compensation to be paid for it. Hey atleast people weren't conscripted right. Yes wageless conscript workers can be drafted in Alberta if an emergency need for labour exists... PS xray type trucks and ultrasonics exist to scan inside vehicles and buildings for objects including the material composition. These are in use at various areas particularly in Us border security, they are also used in drug checkpoints in some places etc.. Here is an example of one such tech, there are many http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

IMO if the government needs to know they can get a warrant. If the CRA wants to know they can order an audit. If the public wants to know they can join the union. Lots of corporations that get tax breaks don't disclose their finances publically. The whole idea that since Unions get tax breaks or union donations are tax breaks then their finances should be a public matter is flawed. Well where is the political parties transparency, or church transparency, or businesses that are contracted by the government. There are two sides to payments and not all of it is tax free. Example the person the Union hires may be a private individual., the company they buy from may be a private concern. Organizations may like their details "secret" for trade or undertakings for the purpose of OPSEC. None the less unless I can walk into a local store and ask, I'd like to see your tax records, then the government shouldn't be expecting this for the public to have access to any other private organization. None the less I don't think Union Membership should be forced on people, and I don't think Union Dues should be forced on anyone who isn't a member, none the less in this case it is clear unless I can go up and ask anyone for their tax records, this should be left to the realm of the CRA, the RCMP, the courts, or other relevant areas. Unions are private organizations not public organizations. Remove the tax write off and compulsory membership and get on with life. You can do the same for political parties and churches. Fact is its all less tax money. Let people spend on it cause they want to. Fact is your party, your church, and your union is likely doing nothing for me, I shouldn't be subsidizing them by you getting tax breaks for funding an alternate civil society. And no that isn't saying they are not useful or good organizations.... it is however saying that giving other people write offs is nonsense. Now making certain activities that advance the public good or save the government money, non taxable that is another matter. The premise is all just wrong in how it is done we need an even playing field not, if you support these things we won't tax you. It is just fulfillment of those institutions by stacking the deck in their favour. Without any fundamental justificiation for doing so in a free society.

The Russians evacuated all Defence Department Personnel from Tartus. Diplomatic staff - left only, and perhaps some civillians who did not leave, none the less I cannot comment on other Russian aligned forces in Syria. Tartus has been shut by the Russians. Sorry this just in http://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/27-06-2013/124965-russia_tartus-0/ The press reports earlier were incorrect quoting Russian Foreign Affairs........... it seems that the military and foreign affairs havn't agreed on this, or the press is misreporting. FOG much. I don't know. Its pravda it must be true. Apparently it seems civlians ---- not russian defence personnel? unless they are diplomatic are still operating pravda .... but tartus is still open.. but the military is not there..? I don't know. http://inserbia.info/news/2013/06/withdrawal-from-the-syrian-port-tartus-untrue-russian-ministry-of-defence/ It seems for the time being Tartus may be an annex, and this is all easily understood. None the less didn't the government recently buy a whole lot of smart bombs for the cf-18s? Wouldn't it make sense to buy CF-18s to deliver those many millions of dollars worth of munitions. It is also confusing to hear we won't drop as many bombs with the f35? uhm how do you know how many bombs you need? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/national-defence-to-buy-fewer-bombs-if-f-35-selected-as-new-air-force-fighter/article8705866/ 52 million for 30 years of weapons? talk about peacemakers.

No there is more information but I'm not writing a paper to convince you its been looked into very heavily, Read on E-747 and look into DOD docs on B-747 here is some info on the e747 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-4 Did You Know, the planes can shoot down enemy fighters... and have missile interdiction capacities THAT WAS 40 YEARS AGO. http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/e-4b-emergency-command-post-doubles-as-secdefs-ride/ https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/20090823.aspx I think in some type of "global war" situation it might be worth doing due to production needs and available assembly lines none the less Canada really doesn't need to be attacking the 2nd and 3rd worlds to begin with, they are domestic concerns, I'd really love to be convinced waging war on the other side of the planet is beneficial but I havn't yet been convinced of that. I still think Canadians are better served with nuclear weapons than f35s because with nukes atleast you take them down too. Canadians need not fear the third world if we blow up their boats on the way with coastal defences and tighten immigration rules. Let them kill themselves if they want, its their country.Canada has its own major failures to correct the f35 as the only aircraft for the next 30 years is one of them.

baseless rhetoric. There is no evidence whatsoever this is the case. Canada's economy surged after WWII without freetrade. While I do adcovate for open borders, this more profit for businesses less for government isn't in governmental interest, and it doesn't benefit the public necessarily. None the less it does benefit people who have secure jobs not in the manufacturing industry, in some cases agriculture. Ex. its ok for service industry workers, business operators, and that is pretty much it. Everyone else looses job security. Basically now instead of businesses paying the government borrows more money or raises taxes,.. not in the public interest, sorry try again. It is moving the buck that is all stop lying to people or deluding yourself. The absence of free trade was called "income" something government can use without raping its public. While some goods may be good to get in others now can compete with Canadian brands at about the same price or slightly less. This basically legitimizes dumping which can be used to destroy local industries that won't start up again, this allows the drop and bait, that is we are stuck paying for foreign goods at higher prices because there is no wiggle room for start up locally. None the less the train has left the station but atleast tell the public the truth, it is not in their interest to have their domestic enterprises destroyed. Having to get your goods from another country destroys self sustainability, and sovereignty.While there is a lot of crap that doesn't matter that could be let in with no adverse effects, loosing other industries is paralyzing because it neutralizes sovereignty or capacity because the country and its public becomes dependent on foreign products... it is a death spell. Personally government is just used corruptly but it is still vital that international government protects peoples rights from corporate abuses, and ownership. We have to kill IP laws if we are going to survive foreign take over through corporate ownership. That is all there is to it, fascism/corporatism is not in the middle classes interest. Government as a means to just control our culture that we pay for is nonsense. They deliver nothing else that can't be got for less from other countries. What are they needed for? Stopping goods they don't like? Stopping behaviour they don't like? They exist for the economy if they have no control of the economy they are deadweight. Now its just a mechanism of murder for the corporate overlords economic intersts, none of those being Canadian? MG it is not in the middle classes interest but it will happen because people allow idiots and elitists run the country.. The only way this will benefit the public is to nationalize the resource sector, kill IP controls, and end local corporate and business taxes completely to remove the unfair disadvantage by government taxation of local industry and not foreign producers.. Do you want Walmart to be the only employer in Canada? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/retail-sales-is-no-1-occupation-for-men-and-women/article12850450/

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not true transports can be converted to bombers. 747's and other airliners can be converted to bombers. of course today everything has to be packaged, insanely expensive, rights owned and finished product to be used in war unless it is part of a rebellion in the middle east.. to effect regime change. none the less Canada shouldn't have countries to bomb. however it seems other countries want constant war in the world over things like foreign domestic policy of all things. it is insane, women don't have the vote, lets kill 100,000 people maim 100 thousands of others, enable countless rapes and destroy many billions in infrastructure so women still don't have the vote. We'll starve them into thinking that choping off hands isn't sound judicial policy, now where is my lethal injection syringe? these nutters need to learn to stay the hell out of domestic policy of other countries. ffs the f35 is just another way of saying we want to attack people. the idea is that this aircraft is designed to defeat russian anti air systems such as s300. this isn't built to fight the next generation of fighters because frankly it isn't the best fighter it is used for strike missions. both the russian and chinese jets appear to be better suited for the fighter interceptor role perhaps with reason. this jet is not an equipment purchase it is a foreign policy choice as it applies to military response options, defence won't be one of them. one must question though, what third world and second world countries will these things be ferried off too? and why is Canada going to bomb them?\ it is startling they are talking about fixing component problems more than 15 years into the program still... https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQqQIoADAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ainonline.com%2Faviation-news%2Fsingapore-air-show%2F2012-02-15%2Fbae-drives-dual-approach-fixing-f-35-helmet-display-issues&ei=1Y3MUeH-IYnlyQG7pIHIDw&usg=AFQjCNGdL1qGXBviYQmO5qwAMYMoZ3fAMQ&sig2=mWQqGnXaPgfa8aDmluXmgw&bvm=bv.48572450,d.aWc especially with the amount of cash that has been dished out, it is insane. This basically says you can buy into the f35 name but you won't know whats in the box until you open it. This is not a turd but Canada serious needs to consider exactly how much money they are throwing into a jet designed for stealth strike at low to medium range. While I do still advocate for a few of these, I still think the answer lays in not committing to a 30 year program due to the rapid pace of technological development. Also if the enemy is allowed the classified information why isn't Canada? http://news.yahoo.com/theft-f-35-design-data-helping-u-adversaries-184154837.html

human rights abuses are something you are ignoring that is another criteria of persecution. Infringing peoples human rights is persecution. I suggest you read the second chapter of the handbook I posted it fairly clearly explains that human rights abuses, which include forced sterilization, or other forced reproductive controls are a human rights abuse. ( Persecution 51. There is no universally accepted definition of “persecution”, and various attempts to formulate such a definition have met with little success. From Article 33 of the 1951 Convention, it may be inferred that a threat to life or freedom on account of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership of a particular social group is always persecution. Other serious violations of human rights--for the same reasons--would also constitute persecution. 59. In order to determine whether prosecution amounts to persecution, it will also be necessary to refer to the laws of the country concerned, for it is possible for a law not to be in conformity with accepted human rights standards. More often, however, it may not be the law but its application that is discriminatory. Prosecution for an offence against “public order”, e.g. for distribution of pamphlets, could for example be a vehicle for the persecution of the individual on the grounds of the political content of the publication. 60. In such cases, due to the obvious difficulty involved in evaluating the laws of another country, national authorities may frequently have to take decisions by using their own national legislation as a yardstick. Moreover, recourse may usefully be had to the principles set out in the various international instruments relating to human rights, in particular the International Covenants on Human Rights, which contain binding commitments for the States parties and are instruments to which many States parties to the 1951 Convention have acceded. The bottom line is, forced sterilization does not meet Canadian Human Rights standards so her application should be accepted. Women in Canada control their own reproductive rights. It is a human rights abuse to control a womans reproductive capacity. see: United Nation's 1968 International Conference on Human Rights "Parents have a basic human right to determine freely and responsibly the number and the spacing of their children."

I think we do not see development and resource utilization the same way. You seem to can this in with expenses and poorly managed programs. That is the framework of bad government, and it is unfortunate that is the box you are looking at. It is not the right box, nor is it creative, inventive, nor beneficial to the public to think that way. Oh I think you need to review what a refugee actually is and try to stay on topic, because you are the one missing the boat. I've already directed you to the international and Canadian rulings, if there is some document I am missing or havn't provided by all means provide it. Since it seems you have ingored my links I'll post another to dumb this down for you. http://www.unhcr.org/3d58e13b4.html

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