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Oh, God has some explainin' to do. Check out this list of deaths God had a hand in and then tell me that he isn't the epitomy of evil. link

I know you religious types don't like KJV Isaiah 45:7,(I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil, I the LORD do all these things) as evidenced by the many translations to discredit it. But then you cannot ignore or shirk away from all the "evil" that God partook in or orchestrated in the Old Testament. Can't have it both ways.

It's not true IMO. That mythical figure comes one Indian news agency quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai. Talk about stretching credulity to the max.

That's rather amazing considering the only three convicted re sponorship program weren't even Liberal: Coffin had been president of a Tory riding in Montreal, Guite had been a civil servant appointed by Mulroney, and Brault had been a well-known pequiste.

Here ya go: link

Yep, starts a thread on hate for Harper and it turns real quick to hate for Chretien. Typical right wing strategy.

Funny, Duceppe doesn't have a problem with an audit.

Tell that to Helena.

Funny, I never thought I'd ever say this but I almost feel sorry for Helena.

Hmm, Conservatives noticeably quiet.

What happened to "Seek and ye shall find?" I think the judgment part comes from your camp.

Rumour? Yep that's why he kicked her ass out of cabinet and the caucus. LOL

If you're referring to me what exactly do you want a link for? I was answering Shady actually re widespread abuse issues in the catholic church. My other link has to do with a website for victims of priest abuse, and how rampant it is in the church. My lawyer, who deals with priest abuse in western Canada states that the church commonly makes deals with victims and orders them to sign confidentiality agreements, threatening them with lawsuits if they disclose specifics of their settlements. She has dealt with the residential schools and other cases where this is the norm.

Try world wide. Plus you forgot that stats don't include out of court settlements because the victims are prohibited from talking for fear of lawsuit (this I have personal knowledge of). That is common practice with the catholic church. I don't owe you or anyone an apology for continuing to talk about this abusive church. link link2

Shady, your link is from a Catholic website. Nice going. For the record try using a source comparing the amount of persons coming forward to lay claims or charges against other organizations with those against the Catholic Church. Good luck.

Funny you should mention this. No sitting Liberal members were ever charged with anything! Did you know the only people who were charged were Paul Coffin, who had been president of a Tory riding association in the Montreal area, Jean Brault who was a pequiste, and Chuck Guite, a civil servant appointed by Mulroney. And of course, Jean Lafleur, a crooked adman. Nice try. LOL

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Well, you brought it up. And women did go out with some of the disciples: According to Clement of Alexandria, Peter and Philip were married and had children, and Paul probably did, too. Their wives traveled with the apostles "not as wives, but as sisters, in order to minister to housewives" {19}. Clement also reports that Peter's wife was martyred before him, and the apostle encouraged her as she was led to her death link

But the word of God can be very bad, see Old Testament.

So I don't believe in UFO's. Is that a religion now?

Lol, we have less rights and freedoms now than before 911. Been to an airport lately?

It was commonly done in my generation, and not necessarily for health reasons. And I believe infant Jewish males are still being circumcised?

That "made to feel that they cannot say certain things" kind of flies in the face of Christianity don't you think, golden rule and all? I'm all for free speech, but it is contingent on us to censor ourselves, and act within well understood decorum and respect for others. Simply put, you can't just say whatever the hell you want. Or maybe you want a society replete with endless intolerant verbal free-for-all?

So you're okay with slander?

Are you of the opinion that there should be no responsibility for what one says?