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They aren't, there is no real evidence of that. It's actually beyond absurd. The conclusions one can draw when they really want to draw one.... What are you talking about? Which UN resolutions has the United States been found breaking? Which court has found them guilty of violations of 'international laws' (something I don't believe is a real thing... international suggestions are a better term)??? Who's been prosecuted and found guilty because obviously a nation can't be guilty (as was recently found in the Serbia case)? Iran has been found in violation of UN resolutions and are currently facing sanctions as a result of their repeated violation. geoffery apaprently you did not read the links, and the links were quite specific the USA is funding 3 groups that are funding Al Qaeda. Then the USA are doing this in Iran http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../25/wiran25.xml

http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/070227/n022777A.html

That CPC neck and neck with the Liberals is going to go bye bye. Last Wednesday in the House of Commons, Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper relied on a newspaper article to link the relative of a Liberal Member of Parliament to the ongoing criminal investigation into the 1985 Air India bombings. Do you approve or disapprove of Harper using the newspaper article in this manner? Approve 23% Disapprove 57% Not sure 19% Mississauga-Brampton South MP Navdeep Bains claims the prime minister’s actions attacked his integrity and the integrity of his family, and has requested an apology from Stephen Harper. Do you think the Prime Minister should apologize? Yes 49% No 28% Not sure 23% http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/...em/itemID/14870

When it was it publicly known that he was a Holocaust denier? Noit was in 1968, and he did not start denial until the mid 1970's and was exposed in 1978. The CPC are just trying to cover their butts because they know their connections to Zundel are well documented and they want to apparently try to deflect away from their actions. This Reform/Canadian Alliance/CPC public ties to the far right and Zundel went right up to 2000. The Far Right and Mainstream Politics One of Fromm's primary objectives is to lobby mainstream politicians in order to influence policies on health, crime, and immigration reform, and it appears that he has had some success. In June 2001, it was revealed by Jonathan Gatehouse that Leon Benoit, the former immigration critic for the Canadian Alliance, had "face to face meetings" with Fromm dating back to 1999. 43 In the article, Benoit admitted to meeting with Fromm at his office in Ottawa and in Toronto, stating: "ome of the things he said made a lot of sense. I think he offered some good suggestions for changing the immigration system." 44 Fromm's attempt to influence the political mainstream via immigration reform is not a new. According to Barrett, Fromm considered immigration to be a more "volatile issue to raise with MPs than foreign aid." 45 In 1999, Fromm booked a hospitality suite at a conservative political conference in Ottawa at which he invited "young tories and reformers" to join him to discuss immigration and free speech issues. 46 Leon Benoit is not the only Canadian Alliance member to have contact with the far right; apparently, Raphael Bergmann contacted Rob Anders, the Canadian Alliance member who voted against granting Nelson Mandela honorary Canadian citizenship, regarding his Straight-pride protests. 47 The connection to the Canadian Alliance by the far right is much deeper than merely advising on policy. In a conversation with Fromm, it was suggested that his group was contacted by members of the Canadian Alliance to collect information that would publicly damage Warran Kinsella, a Liberal Party advisor and author, in retaliation for articles critical of the Canadian Alliance. 48 Indicating that contact may have occurred between the Canadian Alliance and the far right, Lemire (who also acts as Fromm's web-master) notes, "As for if we were approached by people in the Canadian Alliance to them information on Kinsella… Well that's between us and them." 49 Lemire further states, "Yes it is true we are building a file on him through our website…. We expose his lies, half-truths, and other shenanigans he is up to." 50 It was revealed in late 2000 that several far right members and extremist were also members of the Canadian Alliance, including Doug Christie, Marc Lemire, Paul Fromm, and Doug Collins. 51 However, the Canadian Alliance quickly expelled the far right extremists just prior to the federal election in 2000. http://www.canadiancontent.ca/articles/022802racism.html Paul Fromm darling of the Right The whole link is an excellent read about the Reform Alliance CPC xenophobia More on the Zundel connection to the Reform Alliance CPC here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....opic=8153&st=60

He put himself forward as a candidate, in 1968, 10 long years before he started his holocaust denial, he never made it to the 1st vote, he had no supporters and all he did was make his Canada treates Germans badly speech. Unlike Zundels and all his cronies at the Heritage Party who had close ties with Reform/Alliance and ergo the CPC in their latest incarnation, sorry but a name change does not make a new party. And canadians do have memories. A Critique of the WCC Towards the Destruction of Canada: An Appraisal of the Western Canada Concept by Byron Fraser (Editor's Note: The following article will be appearing in a forthcoming issue of West Coast Libertarian.) I would like to begin by saying that I have the utmost respect and admiration for Doug Christie. This is based mainly only what I know about his valiant and spirited defense of Ernst Zundel some years ago when Zundel was being viciously persecuted by our left-liberal fascists and slandered as a "racist," etc http://www.westcan.org/westcan/WSP/may94.html The Heritage Front Affair Report to the Solicitor General of Canada Security Intelligence Review Committee December 9, 1994 http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/s...nt-emerges.html

It was a free vote. Good try on trying to say it wasn't. Thank God it was struck down, and we do have the majority of MP's willing to assure Canadians their personal liberties, rights, freedoms and due process And it is for reasons like this they struck it down, and maybe people just better back off on declaring all those organization terrorists organizations because this is just the tip of the findings that are coming out that are showing perhaps not so many are terrorist organizations. Much like they had try to declare Cat asteven's charity at first as terrorist organization and he had the pull right away to prove them wrong. Evidence against Muslim charity appears fabricated By Greg Krikorian Times Staff Writer http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17197.htm

Oh yes, remembr back a couple of weeks ago, when the USA tried to say Iran was bringing bombs or bomb technology into Iraq? It was being trumpeted as truth about Iran's actions, well, as was stated by myself and others here, that there was no way. Seems we were correct. http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002629.php

hemp was actually criminalized because of 3 lobby corporations. hemp has very little active THC no one can get stoned from commerical hemp. Dupont, had perfected nylon rope and wanted to corner the market and get rid of the competition of hemp ropes. Eli Whitney patented the use of the cotton gin, and wanted to corner the market on clothing made from cotton as opposed to hemp. hemp is more durable, softer and less hard on the land. William Randolph Hearst patented paper made from tree pulp There are studies showing that the dirty 30's may not have been so bad, if farmers hemp wind breaks were not destroyed, this was a 2 fold factor as they served for wind breaks and the fibres holding the top soild together within the fiberous root networks. and indeed bird species may have gone extinct because of the destruction of naturally occuring hemp plants in the Great Plains areas. hemp is also a great carbon sink. in fact, lot of environmental actions could be enhanced through the legalization of hemp.

I think al Qaeda is a bigger enemy of the US today than Iran... Iran isn't really an enemy per say. Just a troubled neighbour that enjoys violating international law and direct resolutions. Why then is the USA funding Al Qaeda if they are a bigger threat? The USA has been violating many more international laws than Iran, and breaking treaties left right and centre, do you suggest something should be done about them?

Hiti, You are correct, their uttering are getting more and more strange, in trying to defend why they should have a right to take away Canadian rights and freedoms and due process. Pretty hard to say, though: "we want to have dictatorship capability and they won't let us". Much like the very strange ravings today in the Calgary Sun trying to link the Liberals to Zundel. When in actual fact it is the Reform/Alliance/CPC who have the former relationship with him. Disgusting Bush/Karl Rove dirty politics being played out by them.

yes you are correct, it iis actually easier to let's say Hep from a woman than AIDS. Hep only require about 140 thousand micro organisms to infect someone that that amount actually fits on the point of a needle. Whereas it takes over a million for AIDS. But another killer that men give women, is the human pamlona virus and condoms do not protect women from this. The organism is so small they pass through. The majority of women who die from cervical cancer have been given this virus by their male partner.

White Doors please stop using obsolute info, and spurious commentary. February 14 Senlis Council Report http://www.senliscouncil.net/modules/publi...018_publication

Okay the folowing may be graphic descriptions for some, please be advised. Odds are no, you will not get it if, you do not have either anal sex or sex during menstruation. And even then you would have to have a cut, or sore either orally or pubically. It is a matter of how many invading organisms are required to infect someone with AIDS. Male sperm is loaded, and stays directly in the vaginal canal. Women do not excrete in the same manner men do, and the AIDS viruses, over a million of them, would have to travel up the male urinary/ejaculatory canal, unless there is skin breakage, and perhaps not then even, as women do not have bundled secretions, with millions of AIDS viruses present, through an ejaculation process the same way men do.

white doors get informed about AIDS, it is very very difficult for a woman to give a man AIDS. try please for once to speak from a position of knowing rather than believing. My comment is the truth and has nothing to with your allegations of male hatred. http://www.dianarussell.com/aids.html http://www.janegalt.net/archives/009544.html http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/CIDAWEB/acdicid...EN-21813055-P76 Women are twice as likely as men to be infected with HIV during sex. A woman’s vaginal tissue can be damaged during sex and especially during forced sex, making it easier for the virus to enter the body. Adolescent girls are particularly vulnerable due to the immaturity of their reproductive system. Girls and women with sexually transmitted infections (STIs) are at an even greater risk of HIV infection. The stigma attached to STIs means women are less likely to seek medical care, which further increases their vulnerability to an infection transmitted by an HIV-infected male. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gender inequality Gender inequality makes girls and women more vulnerable to HIV/AIDS. Gender inequality also means that girls and women may receive less support once sick, and it may mean that they carry an unequal burden when others are sick. Several inequalities make girls and women more vulnerable to becoming infected with the HIV/AIDS virus, and more affected by the consequences:

Still waiting white doors for you to try to support your contentions, pretty hard to do though, when the source used is deliberately being disengenuous.

Yes, still blaiming women, when it is men who give AIDS to women, and not women who give AIDS to men. I guess this must go back to the sky God myths and the original sin eh?! Condoms break, men are out cheating on their wives, gf's etc and women think they are in monogamous relationships and get it because of their promiscuous partner. That is why AIDS is increasing amongst middle aged women who have long been in relationships. Or amongst the youth, aprticulariliy females, coming from the religious right, who have only been educated into abstinence as opposed to safe sex. Abstinence does not work, safe sex does. And it is men who are the issue for spreading it NOT females.

Interesting, the USA is applauding the SCC getting rid of the security certificates and in fact I would bet Congreess is going to do something very similar shortly! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/opinion/...gin&oref=slogin

Ah, the Cheney target was just smoke mirrors and lies to cover up/distract from what's going on at home with the Scooter Libby case that Cheney is avoiding!

stability? Only if your country is not part of all the "little wars"

Sounds like John Hagopian is creating myths of his own, him and Tom Flannigan it appears are about the same. Hagopian is skewing the facts and way and over simplification does this a great disservice. One need only read this to know how full of smoke he is: To settle and to give lands is just that! How nice and colonistic mentality rises to the fore again, trying to strip the FN of lands they were given to settle on. Haldimand's signature will stand and correctly so. It was a proclamation action contained in the Order-in-Council of October 4, 1843. . There are 14 legal frameworks under discussion. http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/nr/prs/j-a2006/snjsbk_e.html

An error of judgment The Harper approach abandons consensus and Americanizes judicial appointments, says legal scholar PETER RUSSELL By PETER RUSSELL Tuesday, February 27, 2007 – Page A21 Again Harper has NO mandate to do this, it is certainly time to stand up and speak out

As I thought obsidians comments were absolutely correct and not in error, at all.

Your analogy is in error and a strawman. The USA has been involved in non-stop wars since its conception pretty and they are always fighting for peace and they have NEVER attained it, nor will as they. War again has never brought peace perhaps a cessation to conflict in that area for a short while.

Now, seeing as how Zundel did not start his Holocaust denial until the mid 70's and was discovered doing so in 1978, just how was anyone supposed to know what he was going to do 10 years later? They were supposed to have pre-cognition? Moreover, he was defeated, eh?! And who immediately moved to stop his hate speech? The Liberals One would be more likely to tie the CPC in with Zundel seeing as how many Reformers supported him and his actions. Do you not find that hyprocritical, and even more so now they are trying to smear the Liberals with it? One need only google Zundel Keegstra and Reform Alliance together and all the good are right there. http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/s...nt-emerges.html http://www.westcan.org/westcan/WSP/may94.html Now would you like me to provide more proof that The Calgary Sun are blowing smoke, playing dirty politics for the CPC, and that is actually Harper and the CPC and their supporters who have ties to Zundel? There were no Sikh terrorist organizations that were recognized in 1990. Nice lies and half truths by the Calgary Sun. Typical Republican CPC dirty politics tell half a story and skew that so it is unrecognizable as well.

Nope sorry, under universal health care user fees were rendered unacceptable, by Ottawa. Canada wide