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It was an excellent action 2 billion people participated, if even a 1/3 get active it will be a huge plus. More on latest news on Global warming; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtm...1/scisun111.xml

If May wants to shoot herself and the party she leads in the foot she has just done so. Having said that she apparently went there because the othe MP's from all parties had a meeting with the EFC a few weeks prior.

The fundamental problem of the NDP position, and this inconsistency is not lost on most voters, the NDP social positions supporting gays and women's rights require sometimes the use of force.The NDP is all in favour of using police force to stop spousal abuse in Canada but it seems unwilling to use force to stop far more atrocious abuse in places like Afghanistan. Oh come on, that summation is absolutely nonsensical. It was even a good sstrawman that you created to kick down. We were not in Afghanistan to make sure women were treated correctly, and in fact the ISAF has now killed so many innocent women that such a comment is exposed for the ridiculous nature of it, that it is, it it hadn't been from the moment you posted it.. The NDP has not been inconsistent in anyway shape or form, they have been quite clear stop the combat warfare, start aide and reconstruction, actually reading the Report would be a good thing, eh? Here is the link again. http://www.ndp.ca/page/5462

Wow, now there is a doosey, medicare had NOTHING to do with the social credit it was Tommy Douglas under the CCF/NDP who brought universal health care to Canadians. And the only reason it is getting broker, if indeed it is is because the Federal governemnt funding is going elsewhere like 1.5 billion a year minimum to Afghanistan and thus it has been since Martin made the the deep cuts back in 1994. And thank goodness we have the sytem we do, if it was USian style it would be even broker.

Liberals have been calling phone shows on the radio, and on tv, impersonating ordinary citizens. This tactic especially appeal to the Liberals since they are such big liars to begin with. Conservatives are just taking a defensive stand. Please provide proof of your assertations betsy, because we all know the proof of the CPC doing so, Jaffer anyone? The CPC and their followers top Liberal liars any day of the week.

No, actually, we ALL do not know that, as that presentation of what is going on with the NDP 's positions is incorrect. First off, the NDP started criticizing before the CPC came to power back in 2005, with Martin at the helm. They have remained consistent for well over 2 years. In the meantime, because of both the Liberals and the CPC, there are scores of young Canadians dead and diasabled. http://www.ndp.ca/page/2061 Last week Dawn Black, tabled The Oppositions Report on Afganistan by the NDP. And in it the NDP call for the withdrawl of the counter insurgency military personal, and end that mission. In it they support the other 2 missions of aide and reconstruction. Moreover, today NATO spoke out against the actions of the ISAF in killing the amount of civilans they have, NATO is not in agreement with US policies in Afghanistan. On staying in Afghanistan to provide diplomacy, aide and reconstruction: On stopping the counter insurgency warfare and bring that portion of the military home: http://www.ndp.ca/xfer/pdf/2007-06-19_Dissenting_Opinion.pdf It is an extensive report which is full of information pertaining to all aspects of what our military is, or is not doing, in Afganistan. Plus what NATO is doing and Afghanistan and the plight of the women and children.

People have little or no comprehension of the infinite, or eternity. Most look and understand with finite lenses. As such, it is difficult to grasp fully, or even closely, what omnipotent/omnipresence is or could be for many.

What a great man IMO, is Taguba, to have the courage to present the truth, when everyone around is trying to stop the truth, is no small thing. The story he told of the woman detainee who was sodomized by one of the guards in front of others, is absolutely sickening. As you say kuzadd, when these monsters come home, it won't be pleasant for the women and children with whom they come in contact with.

Exactly, good job pointing out the propaganda, and it sounds exactly like the same nonsense leading up to Iraq. The fact is they are trying to generate public support to attack Iran, before Bush leaves next year. Want to fill their pockets with a bit more blood money before they leave.

Senator Cools went further: The references to the Constitution Act are, of course, correct; it is the Govenrnor General's duty to fill Senate seats... how long can she wait for Harper to advise her? Where is the link for this, you cannot site thing without referencing and providing a link if source was on line?

Well, a change of government without an election, eh? That may suit Canadians very well. It would also sacve Harper face from losing an election, and all the Conservatives could rally behind him about the injustice of it all. Of course failing to realize it would be Harper's fault, and/or his mechanations.

What a grotesque appropriation of the Holocaust to defend the policies of modern Israel! The boycotts apply to Israel because of policies, not Jews because of race. Exactly, and just ignore the comments about an editorial. The one being spoken about is simply Coren's usual blathering and one can hardly attribute anything thoughtful, let alone editorial, to him.

Oh, so it is okay for you Rue, to utilize generaliztions, when taking exception to my obvious yet not so faulty generalizations that were taking exception to JBG extreme generalizations. Perhaps you should have taken exception to JBG's, absolute hate mongering generalizations, as opposed to mine that were merely pointing out very real inconsistencies and outrageous generalizations in the title premise? Instead you insist upon furthering those outrageous generalizations and fail to address the very real inconsistent thinking of some of those on the right who believe the "left" is too tolerant of and is thereby hurting society, while pretending you are doing a debunking.

The thread title set up the tone of this thread , and of course participants in the thread continued with the negative tone set up by the title between one another. But now this thread is under way, let's look at the reality of the postulations in the title. 1. It states a premise that the "left" has a vicious hatred of Israel. Now the reality is the "left" is absolutely chalk a block full of Jewish persons. It could hardly be said that the "left" has a vicious hatred of Israel, now could it?! 2. Moreover, the left can hardly be said to hate anyone, after all, the complaints against the "left" from the right, always contain the fact that they feel the "left" is too tolerant of EVERYONE. So, from that perspective it is highly unlikely that the "left" hates anyone, let alone viciously hate a country. Now that is a serious inconsistency in thought processes, that those on the right fail to perceive or at least acknowledge. 3. Theere are mistruths postulated here about Israel and the formation of it, based upon the Palestine Mandate and events leading to and after. http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=35&aid=427&pg=4 Please do read the link it is to the University in Haifa and it details the conflict and the creation of Israel, in factual reality, as opposed to the myths spread by both Israel and Palestine.

JBG, kuzzafd noted actions by both Jewish persons and Chrisitans against Muslims that you ask for examples of. We need look no further than Iraq and Palestine. But one could throw in Afghanistan too.

Wonder when the CPC American strategists are going to realize American style politics does work in Canada?

Scribblet, is very unfair in his commentary regarding Muslims and he very seldom addreses anything else. Oh except for his thread about himself. Moreover, I never foster hate and especially not regarding Christians. Only a Domionist would believe they are Christians, when in fact they are anything BUT Christians.

JBG, you are hardly an honest broker in your commentary against Muslims. And in fact, in case you all did not notice, you all have an unhealthy sick obsession with trying to stir hatred against Muslims, there does not need to be every other thread here being a hate rant against Muslims. I mean really, you people, trying endlessly to spew hate, get self aware and realize you are making mockeries of yourselves.

The real fanaticism is occuring right here at MLF, with certain peoples unhealthy obsession with trying to spread hate against Muslims. And the Dominionists are most certainly gnashing at the teeth for the deaths of billions of peoples.

Wow, the CPC, or rather Harper, really knows how to keep a party together. Lie to them, then kick em out for actually representing their constituents. and all when you have a bare minimum minority government Mackay is gone in Central Nova now for sure, if not every CPC seat in the Martitimes. After the fiasco of Harper in Europe this week, and the soft wood lumber debacle, CPC seats in BC will be toasted off. Maybe he thinks his photo op with the French President will score him points in PQ, if so, I guess they forgot to figure out PQers do not like the results of the French election. So that leaves AB and ON, and it doesn't look good for more seats in ON. The polls have seemed to stop now there is no time this summer for an election and Harper has resigned himself to the fact he could not possibly get even another minority.

Oh and it unravels is correct. Rumsfeld driven out, Libby in jail, Wolfowitz outta the World Bank, Bushie chest thumping and screaming, oh how sweet it is.

Given the laughing stock he made of Canada and canadians yesterday, and the angst against Canada he is promoting, I have not noticed his appearance. Will look next newscast though.

You'd be a lot easier to take seriously if you'd learn to use the apostrophe correctly. The use of apostrophe is hardly the worst thing contained in that post. The blatent misrepresentation and skewing of truth really ranks as number. The Iraelis are not the underdogs, and there is absolutely no way anyone should be able to presume they were. Unfortunately, we are seeing an example of the truly self deluded.

How are you aware that the Chiefs take the money for themselves? Each dollar that enters a band administration has to be accounted for to DIA and Health Canada, each band office goes through a pre audit in Jan and then an annual audit in May. You would have to have some pretty big loop holes to scam that much money. And yes....many First Nations carry good ideas, wow amazing who would have thought. The "poor me" mantra as you call it, is something that you can't judge. You have not lived what these people have gone through. For so many years until in came to light, these people ignored it, hid it, covered it up with other negative forces and relived it. Many of the abused became abusers, there is just a thousand things I could list, but there is no sense because you would not understand it. Why? Because most with this attitude don't want to. Most with this attitude were the ones that opened and operated institutions that created generations of pain. To the poster that said the girl no longer wanted to live by the rules, in a good home, etc. May it wasn't that she didn't want to. For one, we are finding out that children placed in home that are not of their ethnicity, is damaging. Another, maybe she was fetal alcohol effected. With some of these kids, one taste of alcohol is all it takes, thats it, it then rules their whole lives. Yes Drea, they should be settled right now. Excellent post FN&Proud, it is real easy to judge and condemn erroneously and from a position of priviledge, isn't?

There is nothing in these excerpts that shows criticism of Israel to be driven by anti-semitism. The suggestion seems quite slanderous, really. Yes, I concur. Why is it that some have to over exaggerate and broad brush it exposes their atempt to foster hate of the "left". Whatever, the 'left' is supposed to mean. It seems they only see bland and white no shades of grey. Jewish voices around the world have stated that Zionists do not have the right to utilize their voice because they disagree with their actions against Palestine, plus other things. Now, this boycott of Israeli academia was launched by the South African Trade unionists because of a request from the Paleastinian trade unionists. What is behind it is the aparthide that is being committed.