Who's Doing What?

I have been skipping over the exchanges because the amount of trash talk made it next to impossible to find any intelligent discourse (assuming there was any). Well, the important thing is that Truth and Justice are still standing rock solid, while baseless invective has begun to decline...and in at least one case, leave altogether. On the positive side River, at least you're coherent. Still tiresome, but at least coherent. You're welcome. WTF would you know about "Truth and Justice"? As Bradco pointed out you just fabricate Bullsh*t to suit your needs.

Like any good crack addict you missed the fact that the term "white-man's" is a First Immigrant term. It comes from your people. For you to turn it around and now say it is racist only proves my point that it is you who are racist.

It's like that old saying: "The harder you try to hold onto something the more slips through your fingers." Taking away someones right to voice their oppinion is not the best formula for loyalty.

You mean leave his brain at the door because your illogical hate filled arguments are childish and groundless. Wits? What wits do you speak of? Surely not yours? I would think someone with such a limited supply as you, would want to hold onto them and not risk them in a battle.

If I’m such a joke you vile, racist in-breed, then why aren’t you ignoring me? Do you know that “buckwheat” is a term used mainly on black people? Heck…if you are looking at jokes, I’d have to say you are because you can’t even get your racial epithets right, you disgusting piece of hog vomit. Speaking of garnering credibility, it would help yours if you didn’t resort to using foul language in your sentences. It tells us that you’ve likely just stepped out of your trailer. Try using your Native language like I do, you pathetic racist fool. I’m not the one going on and on about special privileges based on race. That seems to be you, Brad and river. I defend treaty rights based on the rationale that we were here to greet your ancestors. We could be polka-dot and that wouldn’t change that fact you filthy racist sycophant. They did, but they didn’t think that eventual generations of Cauco-Canadians would violate the agreements. I can’t point to one treaty violation made on the part of Aboriginal people, but we don’t have enough Gigs to list the treaty violations committed by your people. What? Your Grandfather was a treaty signator? Not bloody likely, so things aren’t as you assume them to be you disgusting racist. Personal insults highlight a lack of ability to argue or otherwise state a case. In my case, my personal insults are specifically the result of you making overtly racist statements, so the most you can accuse me of is pissing you off, you vile bigot. The company is owned by Native people from Six Nations. You are so racist that you actually thought GRE was run by whites? You are not only a filthy, disgusting bigot, but also a semi-literate retard. Oh…btw, I mean no offence to any mentally-challenged people who may be reading this. I did not mean to insult you by including you in the same company as White Mens Jobs. My apologies. If you say so. possibly. I wouldn’t call you an isolated people though. No. I would agree that we would do everything in our power to work through the system, provided you live up to your side of the agreements you disgusting piece of trash. I’d have to crawl over my dying mother to do my sister before I could hope to match you on your level. You show me where I said anything about “native-only” jobs , or houses, or cars, or trailerparks and you can include me in your ranks, you vile racist. Yeah…E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y. So…where is the “White Act” that determines how you live and breathe? Why weren’t Natives allowed to vote until the 1950’s, so they could have had some input into policies and laws that impact exclusively on us? After your government set things up so the Natives were behind the eight-ball for a hundred plus years, thus allowing your people to benefit from the fat of the land, You telling me that we are equal is like challenging me to a 100-yard dash, with you having a 95-yard headstart. If we were so “equal”, then why do you refer to me as a native and not a Canadian? I doubt you’d want successive generations of your family getting raped by priests and reverends just so you could call yourselves our “equal”. Give me a break…your equality means taking away our rights and letting us remain impoverished and without access to our land, you disgusting bigot. Yes I am pissing you off, otherwise you’d be ignoring my lame arguments. Show me one post where I make a racist statement about Cauco-canadians….just one! Until that moment, the only racist person remains you, you filthy, disgusting racist. No it couldn’t. There are black Europeans, brown Europeans, Asian Europeans, so the term “European” in now way applies solely to white people. Only a vile, filthy racist would think that way. No, I’m the one saying that the people who were here since time immemorial have certain rights and restrictions not shared by newcomers like yourself. You make the claim that this is a race issue. I make the claim that this is a “who was here first” issue, you pathetic racist trash. Wow..look at Mr. “I’m-not-a-racist” saying that I’m part white. What is it with racists like yourself? You always have to infer race, you disgusting, perverse bigot. Seriously, How much Crack do you smoke in a day? You gvie me sh*t for saying words like F*ck, and Sh*t, and then you say sh*t like : LMAO You are calling me a racist when I am saying everyone should be treated equally. All that crap you posted is about yourself. You are the one claiming ownership based on race. You are the one who wants tax exempt status becasue of your race. You are the one who wants special hunting and fishing rights becasuse of your race. You are the one who thinks you are owed something because of your race. Bottom line is it is you who is racist. That must fit in nicely with your hypocracy.

chuck...they don't consent to a mountie being stationed there, they have no choice in the matter. The Mounties play tough guy and force these demands on the company. I've explained that all earlier. I just don't get why you feel the need to promote violence as a course of action. Our first intent may be confrontational, but it is always peaceful confrontation. As far as Caledonia goes, it has been the police and certain drunken townies that started the violence. we just happened to finish it. Sorry. Wow allowing your entire "Nation" to be told how to opperate by a foreign Govt, and even allowing some of the foreign police on your sovereign land. Sounds like the FI's only stand up when they want to make a land grab.

You are the biggest Racist here Buckwheat. The fact you are apparently too self absorbed and deluded to realize it, is the biggest joke on these boards. Bullsh*t. Spin another lie oh scourageous one. No the First Immigrants just bring the issue of race when they want to benifit from it. Pathetic. Maybe if your ancestors had thought of their future generations instead of getting rid of land to suit their own immediate needs you would have some land left. But hey if my great grandfather had held onto his farm in Richmond hill I would be a millionaire. My claim to that property is about as valid as your land claim. How many times do you need to be told. You are the racist. It is you who says his people deserve something because of their race. Do you put crack in yuor peace pipe or what? Because you sound like a crackhead. Yes and they are one of the biggest Native employers around. Why don't we just take the company off the reserve and then all your friends can go back on the Welfare or leave the reserve to find a job. I'm and inbred? As opposed to a group of islolated people living in a small community like on a reserve? So you agree that you would continue and expand your militant activities anytime the govt removes one of its feeding tubes from your bloated gullet. "Retarded racists meat puppet"? You really should quit looking in the mirror when you post. You are mixing me up with you. Suck from the same teats? Please, tell me where to sign up to get tax exemptions and free hunting and fishing. How about dumping millions into my community? Get off the crack. "you filthy, mentally-challenged bigot" again you are talking more about yourself than anyone else on these boards. Most people here only want EQUALITY. Cand you understand? E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y, meaning everyone is treated equal. Not where one race is given special rights and freedoms not granted to everyone. Like holy F*ck man, get a clue. Sorry but you aren't pissing me off, with your lame excuse for an argument. Again it is you who is the racist, demanding that your race should be treated differently from all others. So because people used rascist slurs against you in the past makes it OK for you to be a racist now? Well that about explains it all doesn't it. Your too shallow to get over it. " It is the perception of all things "white", the term european could be used just as easily, but since you want to be racist, we can use the term "white". You really are too dumb to grasp this aren't you? "vomitous, racist slug" Wow, I was called a racist by a racist. So if the racist disagrees with my point of view I guess it can't be that racist, since it conflicts with the beliefs of an obvious racist. Ofcousre First immigrants never killed or raped or did any of those things before the "white man" showed up in North America. You are so full of crap, I'm surprised the nurses let you out of your padded room. Typical FI attitude, take what suits you and leave the rest. Your time of picking and choosing what Canadian laws to obey is coming to an end. Enjoy it while you can. Soon you will be equal. Get it through your head. You are the one saying one race is deserving of something simply because of its race. I'm saying everyone should be treated equal. Who is the racist? Hell I bet your even part white. hahahaha That's a funny thought. Don't worry there is a precident for those kind of racists. Hitler was apparently part jewish so your in elite company. Unfortunately on the wrong end of the spectrum, but in elite company all the same.

Nope. I only know about the money GRE gives to the Feds, and the money the Feds transfers to Six Nations...regardless, whatever the amount is, it will only increase the $140 million GRE gives to the Government of Canada....which will still work out to three times more than what the rez receives from Federal transfer payments. The bottom line is that Six Nations is putting at least three times more money into the Federal government's general ledger than what they get back from the same account. In simple terms, Six Nations is suffering from a fiscal gap...just like Ontario. Terrible, really. That certainly knocks the props from under the argument that Natives are government freeloaders, when clearly all of Canada enjoys the contributions Six Nation's makes.... Shocking is your complete lack of understanding that some money must go to fund bureacracy and departments that are necessary to run a country. The government doesnt transfer every dime it gets back to people. There are other expenditures such as debt payments that they have to deal with. Try factoring those in. Then again you will argue that the natives shouldnt have to pay for any of that, even though they receive benefits from it. What is your definition of freeloader? The only racists here are the First Immigrants who feel they deserve something beause of their race. For the most part everyone else thinks everyone should be equal. Nice try though.

Nice joke calling me the racist, when it is you who thinks he is entitled to something because of his race. Why don't you get a job and hire some of your unemployed relatives to help drag your communities out of poverty. Instead you would rather ruin other peoples lives and put other people out of work while you do some stupid terrorist activity you call a protest. You talk about $40 million not being enough, I hear this terrorist occupation of Caledonia has already cost the Ontario govt. $25 million. How about they take that money out what your reserve is supposed to get? How much more land would you occupy then? You are nothing more than a hog that has been fattened at the Govt's teat for decades, and can find no way to satisfy the greed that has been born out of some idiotic perception that you are owed something. You seem to take pleasure pissing people off. Good. Keep it up, because we need this whole country to get pissed off. Keep pissing Canadians off. The faster you do, the quicker you will be dealt with. You seem to like the term "white-man's". Well you should, I heard it from a drunk First Immigrant racist. Infact I heard it so many times in one weekend, I got to like it. It is a First Immigrants term for anything non-First Immigrant. "White-man's" schools, "white-mans" laws, "white-mans" govt. Well enjoy your "white-man's" house, and your "white-mans" computer, and your "white-mans" clothes. You b*tch and moan about your lost culture and yet embrace almost everything the "white-man" has to offer. I don't see First Immigrants hunting with 300yr old First Immigrant technology. Or living in 300yr old First Immigrant housing. So until you go back to your tipi's, long houses and stone tipped spears why don't you just quietly go away and be happy you've got what you have. Contrary to what you seem to believe it can be taken away.

Scourge you are so f*cked in your reasoning it is laughable. Go on keep it up until you and the rest of the First Immigrants lose all their special rights and freedoms. I will be laughing my ass off the day I see you and your First Immigrant relatives standing in line to purchase your fishing licenses. You people keep coming back to the trough wanting more and more. And for what? Because you are First Immigrants and think you deserve it? Deserving something based on race is an outdated idea. So is your battle for land long lost through trade and sale. You can talk about your relatives who are doctors and lawyers and whatever, my question is what the f*ck are these supposed proud First Immigrants who want to protect their culture and whatever other bullshit you want to throw in there, doing working a "white-mans" job? Why did they bother with getting a "white-man's" education? Why didn't the doctor go into the bush and learn about, cedar, sweetgrass & tobacco instead of learning about, antibiotics, surgery, viruses, and other modern "white-man's" medicine? You b*tch and moan about $40 million dollars being handed to your reserve. You honestly think you deserve more? Bullsh*t!!!! I'm sure there are thousands of small ethnic communities of similar population that would fall on their knees and thank the Govt. profusely for a gift of $40 million just once, never mind the fact you get that $40 million every single freaking year. Maybe after First Immigrant peoples lose all their additional freedoms they currently enjoy, they will look back on the free money, education, healthcare and tax exempt status they were given as "The good ole days". There is only a minimal difference between the First Immigrants actions and the actions of terrorists. I have no doubt that one of the more zealous "warriors" will someday cross that line. Nothing like gettting put on a "Known Terrorist Organization" watch list to help your cause.

Yep...nothing I like better than having an ESL grad telling me to get a job.... I guess all I can do now is make sure I'll give the Cauco-Canadian bums I see on the streets in downtown Toronto a buck to adjust for inflation. Keep the mitts coming and we'll call it square, eh? Everytime it comes down to it you avoid the point. You want self govt when you can't even look after your people now, when the Canadian Govt is giving handouts to First Immigrant Peoples.

You losers still on about this? Why don't you figure out a way to feed and clothe all the natives on the lands you DO own? Is it because militant land grabs worth billions are more suited to your "Warrior" tradition? Or is it because you don't give a flying **** for your poverty stricken people and hope that by being a part of these types of actions, you will be given a bigger slice of the pie? Why the hell is my Aunt telling me about the scarves and mittens she is knitting as part of a huge care package to help the poor natives, when you militants can afford to occupy land, and not be at work? You want to say you are self governed, then start looking after your own. This money grab, land occupation **** is a ******* joke.

Freaking hilarious.

A group of powerful, wealthy individuals who think they know what is best for the entire world, and are using organized religion as a means to accomplish their goals. What the hell is new with that? The US already elected a leader who admits to talking with god. Not a bad thing in it's self but apparently god answered back. GWB full of religious zeal, is in reality, only a few steps shy of being a religious radical. Since a good chunk of Americans and the world has accepted him, how long will it be before a real religious radical is put in power to do battle with "the Evil Islamic hordes" that are no doubt coming to get us? I think this guy may want to talk with Saulmon Rushdie(sp) about where to live when being hunted by almost a billion people.

Your own errors speak louder than anything someone else could say about you.

Oh and BTW that was Bambino not Rue, that in the post you quoted, when you freaked out. You mught want to get some glasses. oh yes I "MUGHT" do that! Ah, the old "Let's focus on a typo, because we just made an ass out of ourselves, with false accusations and a complete lack of any understanding of whats going on," diversion. Sorry Yam you are the weakest link, good bye.

Oh and BTW that was Bambino not Rue, that in the post you quoted, when you freaked out. You mught want to get some glasses.

I didnot bring up royalty. Go check post #180 and then read what Bambi thinks of my personality again. You are just another one who can't seem to follow along. No appology needed. Just go away.

It begs the question, why did you decide to get an education then? And what education did you get? I got the education because my wifes uncle bull****ed me about a job. "Work right at home" he says. "I'm so busy I don't have time to train anyone," he says. "I can give you tons of work if you learn how to do it." Lies, lies, lies. By the time I found out he was full of it, and there was never going to be a job, I was already halfway through the program. Right at the start of the next semester was when I found out the salary, they tell you in the course guide, that you will be making to start, was about 10,000 more in the book than it was in reality. Reality was $12/hr to start, if I commute, because of a flooded market. I couldn't justify my expenses to get my diploma, and most places require certification. I was going through as a CAD operator.

The answer to the questions is one thing. MONEY. Densely populated land is far more valuable than unpopulated land. You heard the Natives on here talking about Trillions of dollars. Screw tradition. Look at the trouble caused by forcing Isreal to be created in the middle east. Non-stop violence. Not exactly a good example to be bringing up in regards to land claims. But again you are assuming your faith matters to me. I think we should all be equal. So for you to say you are entitled to certain land because of your faith, is meaningless to me. Why should race or religion make one person better or more deserving than the next. Legal Interests: Assume almost every Canadian knew they would have to pay the Natives trillion upon trillions of dollars, and possibly be evicted from their homes if everything the natives want was given to them. How long do you think it would be before one of the political parties jumped on the bandwagon and promised to change the legislation so that 300 yr old treaties are worth only their historical value and not legally binding? I think natives or anyone for that matter would be selling ciggarettes if they could make a decent dollar off it. Same for fishing and hunting. If there is money to be made, the animal will be harvested. Doesn't matter if it is native, white, oriental, african american or any other type of human. Someone will do it for the money.

Apparently not too dense. First off, I know well enough that the King and Queen of England live nowhere - they're all dead (there hasn't been one since the Act of Union in 1707). Secondly, they may not have lived near the lands in North America that were under the Royal Proclamation or other treaties signed with the Crown, but that doesn't negate the point that you clearly stated "the King and Queen of England never had to think about getting kicked out of their home, over a land claim." I raised the contrary point that there have indeed been "land claims" (by Spain, France, and the Netherlands) which threatened the "home" of the English Monarch. It may be slightly tangential to the conversation, but, context or not, you made an incorrect statement, and, in neither a rude or provocative manner, I pointed it out as such. Even if it did stray slightly from the point, why does it put such a bee in your bonnet? Yes, I thought you might have some decency. Your snide attitude, thrown at others for no good reason what-so-ever, demonstrates that you clearly have none. Best of luck in your future endeavours - with a "fuck you" personality like yours, I'm sure you'll need it. Notice the term land claim. As in Native land claim. If you want to backtrack and try to BS your way out of being wrong go ahead, it was good for a laugh. If you couldn't follow along that we were talking about native land claims and not European history, well, that says more about you than I could without being censored. Seeing as how you need to go back and re-read this thread so you can follow along I'll ignore your little lesson on the Royals. Do you really expect me to care whether or not I fit your idea of decency? If I have none, which you state I do not, why would I care what you think? Perhaps you should be thankful I have taken the time out of my day to respond to you? Well I guess I don't have to say anything do I?

We're talking about a different country. Not England. You do understand the difference between reading a post and comprehending what the post was about. Oops apparently not. You're the one who brought up Kings and Queens of England being safe in their homes, my friend. I'll admit, though, that I did make a mistake: I thought I was dealing with someone who had at least a modicum of decency. Oops, apparently not. Just how dense are you? The King and Queen of England live where? I'll give you three guesses and a clue. Here's the clue: It sure as hell isn't anywhere near a native land claim being made in Canada. You thought I had decency? LMAO Try not taking my posts out of context, and I might surprise you yet.

Use snipers instead of guided missiles. OR JUST NUKE THE WHOLE LOT.

No Sh!t. I'm thousands in debt from school, and the local factory pays $4.00 per hour more starting wage. Plus profit sharing, and a health plan. I need $7000 to scrape up the equipment I need, just to use this so-far worthless education. I buy a $75 pair of work boots and I can bring home $750/wk as a construction labourer.

We're talking about a different country. Not England. You do understand the difference between reading a post and comprehending what the post was about. Oops apparently not.