French Patriot

Your understanding is not on point. I do not like to see any potential human aborted, but that does not give me the right to impose my desire to save it onto another. Mine is a complicated view sometimes but I always take the moral position which is usually not where the religious are.

Are we not all Gods people?

Are you saying that God does not have the power to do his will and get what he wants? Are you saying that God creates us less than perfect?

It also says that serpents and donkeys can talk human. How literally do you want to get? True that it says narrow path, but that would have God loosing more souls than he is gaining. Do you see him as that incompetent?

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. What are the "all" in the above quotes mean if not all? Your God would create all souls perfect would he not?

Behavior does not matter, given that the bible says that we all end in being saved.

Yes. Prayer is all about self motivation and you are the target of your praying. I see nothing wrong with religious people using their icon to help focus their thoughts, even if they are imaginary. Atheists do the same, just with different icons. The public praying is what most sages preach against, as I recall. The intelligent will know why.

?? I was talking of the haters being of lower character than those they hate because they put sex and gender above love. Stop thinking of sex in what I put.

Ok. Choosing to hate a few babies for not quite living to your expectations of a God created soul, is a better option; to the immoral. Put love over gender and sex the way LGBTQ+ do and you will ascend to their level of excellence of mind. Putting sex and gender above love is just the wrong way to think.

If you cannot say that it is better to love all children regardless of their label, your morals need looking at. All are born in the image of God says religions, all with perfect souls, yet the religious think that God is screwing up on creating us. So much for the faith of fools.

How do you figure that? Right wing Christianity is praying for Armageddon and violence, brutality and invasion. This would include the mass murder of all LGBTQ+. Left wing Christianity are going the better and more moral way of loving their children even if LGBTQ+. Which system is better?

?? They had a hell concept? Wow.

Perfect harmony is certainly what all LGBTQ+ want. That is not what the immoral religious right want. They want to hate and not harmonize.

Hell is Christianity's Terror Management and they keep that lie going for crowd control. I have seen a few preachers tell the truth about hell, and they tend to lose followers as Christians love to hate all who do not cow tow as they do to their imaginary genocidal P of a God. Christians must support genocide, or go to hell. What a choice.

If morals are at issue, all one needs do is look at the right wing anti LGBTQ+ stance, as well as anti abortion, and one can easily the moral decay in the right wing camps.

LGBTQ+, and especially believers, remember that God makes all souls equal. Many have decided to tolerate those who are intolerant to LGBTQ+ souls, while preventing their abortion, to insure they have many to discriminate against. Talk of make work. Believers have to see God creating a make hate program. Moral people know to speak up for the unfairly discriminated and persecuted LGBTQ+. Right?

Like you. The right way.

I did. Now what? Give an actual answer or ----

Our love of drama has us do many things. War is the greatest drama we know. Wish we would replace it with something else.

To your first. One stop for amenities and entertainment, economic reasons, and a good way to get together with family at mom and dad's expense or vice versa. To your last. We are, as Socrates would say, Bread and circuses. Those characteristic in us are expressed as memories as we go through life. We feed our reason for living, being to create memories, with cruises and other forms of travel. Life is an accumulation of remembered events and a desire for more.

Is it showing you a good God or an evil God?

Jesus indicated that we were all equal with his, --- have ye forgotten that ye are Gods and children of the most high? It is almost only Gnostic Christians who have the right view in that God creates all souls of the same value. Perfect. There is a lot of trash in the streets of Eden, but God does not add to it with under valued souls, ----- LGBTQ+ included, ---- for all the right wing haters. Immoral scapegoat concept?

What midrash and on which biblical event?

Fiction. No argument. Are they showing you a good God, or more of an evil God, when looking at the right wing Trinity believers God? I think Armageddon Jesus is not nice at all and not like the bible Jesus who says he comes to cure and not kill.

Talking serpent and donkey belie "TRUE", in other than fictional characters, just as all the characters are in the bible are fictional; Jesus et all.