French Patriot

He gave that to Satan, or the whole temptation of Jesus was a lie. Choose. Have you forgotten Satan's special gift from Yahweh that says she can deceive the whole world? Without Satan, you would not be here. Is Satan divine for initiating knowledge of reproduction in us? This poorly titled clip gives some of the learned logic of Eden as a coming-of-age yarn. The only fault I see is his thinking Satan to be male when she is obviously female for both reality and elsewhere. Check the Exsultet hymn to confirm this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvmbBYtOAk Satan, like Jesus, has been named as a bringer of light in the bible. Should we continue with biblical logic and name Satan divine? Remembering the duality always shown in scriptures, ----- Is Satan the Yin to Jesus as Yang? I know God knows to venerate life, and knows that Satan is the key that opens that door. I will answer for her in a way that will have you name her divine and do as scriptures bid you do. Recognize the Jewish concept of Original Virtue as coming out of Eden. Recognize the twist in language and interpretations, as Christians sing that sin is a happy fault and necessary to God and nature. Opposite word, original sin, and original virtue, saying the same thing. All initiated by the bringer of light, Satan. You are admitting that there are more than one God. Yes?

I don't know who your "your" is, but it is not me, stupid. I am a Gnostic Christian. Not an immoral Christian. We named Yahweh a vile and immoral demiurge way back when we saw how easily we could shut Christians up just by threatening to talk about your immoral traits and policies. You have run from my moral discursions often enough to know the drill.

You teach that a genocidal LGBTQ+ hating God is a good God. You have no shame or morals and don't care.

You selectively quote your book of lies to me, while ignoring what I quote to you, all while you run away from moral discussions. Your God is watching you hate so many without a just cause, and you think that kosher. Ignore what you do till you get to hell.

Just so you cannot ignore your own idiocy.

?? Did she invent the discrimination of heaven and hell and good and evil? I thought the genocidal p r you adore created those. Now you have given the devil the same creating power as God. Way to go.

I know. A stupid idea. Go and try to trade your work for a car and see how you will be walking for the rest of your life.

The story of Job tell us that Satan does nothing without Yahweh's blessing. That is clear by Yahweh giving Satan his power to deceive the whole world. Yahweh gave Satan power over our belief in God himself. Rather a stupid move that.

You might have opened a decent issue for a change. Enslave is the wrong word though. More like --ordered-- the socio economic demographic pyramid. The first coin was called bread. We still call cash that even today. Coins ware called that because a coin was worth a bushel of grain, which was kept and stored by the King, who minted it. It was then used by the farmer to buy good and services, which included well respected Temple Prostitutes who recycled the coins back to the Kings coffers. This rather decent system was great till the religious began to believe in a real supernatural realm. That screwed everything up and divided the bright from the dim. Right wing/Left wing.

I repeat this to remind you of your running away from moral discussions. All should know the weak and immoral Christian thinking and lurkers seeing you guys run away is having it's effect of discrediting Christianity. Especially on LGBTQ+ issues.

Yes. Reciprocity is fair play. As to condemning. I do not have such an ability. Have you? What is your complaint about sin. You sing of it as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. Yahweh also put Satan in Eden to insure Eve ate. Explain your talking out of both sides of your mouth. As to hell. Only a faithless fool would think God does not create all souls perfect. Your Bible is clear that God wills than none of us be lost. He always gets to do his will and saves us all. Right?

God you do a lot of lying about God. Quite the legacy you leave. Instead of reading Romans, why not put your stupid brain to work. To create faith in you, stupid, takes a work of your mind, so the whole premise of "by faith alone", Is impossible. Surely your not so stupid that you cannot see that clear fact.

Made me laugh. Except in the case of Jesus. In his case you are to put your responsibility for your sins onto an innocent victim. Instead of stepping up, you step back like a moral coward. Quite a poor example for children.

Saved how? Not by using Jesus as a messiah because that is quite an immoral offering on Jesus' part. I have shown the moral arguments and Christians just run away from them like the moral cowards they are.

I would quote your Bible, that contradicts you, but you do not care about such things. Your faith is good at ignoring facts.

You do not dare touch the morals, hypocrite, and throw your fantasies at me instead. Real adult that.

You are a liar. You do not have anything to prove your not lying. Why punish sin though while at the same time you sing that Adam'ssin was a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. What kind of hypocrite are you, talking out of both sides of your immoral mouth? Let's chat morals. I can see you need help with those.

Too early for such stupidity. Learn English.

Did Yahweh not bargain with Moses before he destroyed Sodom? He sure did. Oops. Yahweh has the same lying trait as most politicians and all preachers.

You are the only one who can change what you do not like. As we evolve, we will deal with whatever reality we are born into. Evolution is the ability and tools to deal with whatever is found.

As an aside on Your God's justice. Care to engage? Or have you run away before? On Jesus dying for Christians, from a moral perspective. It takes quite an imagination and ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place. Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card. It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral. Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people. Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: There is no way that Christians parents would teach their children to use a scapegoat. Good morals and Jesus speak against the messianic concept and bids us pick up our crosses and follow him.

Good. My justice is superior to you genocidal LGBTQ+ hating proick of a God. Your God is said to make all souls perfect. You are not believing this. Strange how Christians have to condition themselves to hate so many of their own children, should they not be born matching the thinking of their immoral parents.

Then there is nothing to forgive. Thanks for showing though how you would let someone be repeatedly abused. Christians. Sigh.

Correct. Science is free, as you showed, to correct itself. Religions generally and Christianity in particular are not free to correct their God. When they do, they become the good Christians. Gnostic Christians.

What are talking serpents and donkeys and a water walking half breed chimera God, Jesus, who can water walk? Facts or fictions?