French Patriot

Most ignore that for a mind to produce faith, it must do the work and deed of thinking. By faith alone cannot ever happen, as faith is automatically a product of works and deeds.

I like the way Gnostic Christians think of heaven. It is all around us but few see it. The Stones had it right when singing that the streets of Eden are full of trash. If we want a better heaven and future, we have to create it.

Do you believe in talking serpents and donkeys, that are real according to your bible? What of the seven headed monster of Revelation?

Why, when the messianic concept is so obviously immoral and unjust? How can Jesus be your hero when he has promised Armageddon and mass murder?

I prefer to ask about the morality of the God on offer to see if it is the genocidal twins, Yahweh/Jesus. Those on the right wing who like that vile God, tend to be lost causes to moral thinking. A shame to see indoctrination go that deep.

Where does one find this faith? If produced by a brain and mind, that brain and mind is doing work, therefore, faith is reliant on works and deeds of our minds, making the question rather foolish. Right?

I do not see such a thing as existing. Wait. Would, --- set notions of objective morals aside, in favor of subjective morals, --- an objective moral tenet? Did I just refute my first sentence ?

Do you disagree with the biblical quotes, or is this garbage your best apologetics? Oh wait? Memory says it is.

I am surprised that you got that much coherency out of our moral question dodging friend. I must go for the throat too quickly. He just runs from any moral question I ask, even with biblical quotes.

Yes, but never forget inquisitions and jihads and how we should put man above our human created Gods.

Given this poor judgement, I am not surprised that you would bow to a brighter and more moral mind. What is sketchy about my moral thinking?

Kettle to pot, and from a brain dead supernatural believer, who adores a genocidal and homophobic God. Wow. Double Wow.

So because you cannot fathom something, you prefer to call Jesus' quoted words a lie and Jesus a liar. Ok. Great apologetics and debate strategy. Not. Get your single eye in gear, and try to have a bit more faith in the real teachings of the way more Gnostic Jesus. He is a lot better than the genocidal homophobe one.

You have Jesus talking to your carnal/physical body, while Jesus is clear that he is talking to your spirit. He wants us to eat of his words and drink of his spirit. Nothing carnal. Think of the sop and it's meaning. You can do this buddy. You are not stupid. John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Go inside yourdelf to find the only God you can ever really know.

Sin and evil, as your bible says, was created by Yahweh for his pleasure. Explain Yahweh's pleasure at creating what you call bad things. It was not an apple. It was the knowledge of all things as all things are subject to being good or evil. That includes sex and reproduction. Would you have Adam and Eve to listen to Yahweh and end in not reproducing and never knowing they were naked? Yes, and knowing responsibility means knowing good from evil, which is what A & E chose. A happy fault and necessary to our continuing evolution. I recognize no higher authority than myself. I choose to follow rules and laws at hand or not. This is a pure biblical recommendation. It says we adults know good from evil, as with our archetypal Adam and Eve, and should hold to the good. Jesus endorses this with his, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods? I have not. Have you? Who wrote the moral code you follow?

Ok. Jesus ate babies. Done here.

So Adam's sin was a good thing. Right?

Who were the Chrestians who came before Christianity?

Are you talking of Yahweh, the genocidal God that Christians adore? If real, would you shoot that bastard for his mass murders?

IDK, but it is really stupid to think Jesus would preach cannibalism. His way of thinking is what he was selling, not body parts.

So you have no answer as to why sin is a happy fault and necessary for our continuing evolution. Thanks for your other unqualified personal opinions.

The Exsultet hymn is a Christian hymn. Thanks for catching that.

Why do Christians sing of Adam's sin, and ours, by implication, as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan? Do you not agree with common Christian beliefs?

How is your genocidal and homophobic God a better moral authority than your present government? Would your God kill off all the LGBTQ+ in total, or would he have you keep the young females this time ?

Only a complete fool like you would speak of something no one proposed. The word pledge was used and not pray. Only a dishonest fool like you pulls such B.S.