French Patriot

Do you disagree with the biblical quotes, or is this garbage your best apologetics? Oh wait? Memory says it is.

I am surprised that you got that much coherency out of our moral question dodging friend. I must go for the throat too quickly. He just runs from any moral question I ask, even with biblical quotes.

Yes, but never forget inquisitions and jihads and how we should put man above our human created Gods.

Given this poor judgement, I am not surprised that you would bow to a brighter and more moral mind. What is sketchy about my moral thinking?

Kettle to pot, and from a brain dead supernatural believer, who adores a genocidal and homophobic God. Wow. Double Wow.

So because you cannot fathom something, you prefer to call Jesus' quoted words a lie and Jesus a liar. Ok. Great apologetics and debate strategy. Not. Get your single eye in gear, and try to have a bit more faith in the real teachings of the way more Gnostic Jesus. He is a lot better than the genocidal homophobe one.

You have Jesus talking to your carnal/physical body, while Jesus is clear that he is talking to your spirit. He wants us to eat of his words and drink of his spirit. Nothing carnal. Think of the sop and it's meaning. You can do this buddy. You are not stupid. John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Go inside yourdelf to find the only God you can ever really know.

Sin and evil, as your bible says, was created by Yahweh for his pleasure. Explain Yahweh's pleasure at creating what you call bad things. It was not an apple. It was the knowledge of all things as all things are subject to being good or evil. That includes sex and reproduction. Would you have Adam and Eve to listen to Yahweh and end in not reproducing and never knowing they were naked? Yes, and knowing responsibility means knowing good from evil, which is what A & E chose. A happy fault and necessary to our continuing evolution. I recognize no higher authority than myself. I choose to follow rules and laws at hand or not. This is a pure biblical recommendation. It says we adults know good from evil, as with our archetypal Adam and Eve, and should hold to the good. Jesus endorses this with his, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods? I have not. Have you? Who wrote the moral code you follow?

Ok. Jesus ate babies. Done here.

So Adam's sin was a good thing. Right?

Who were the Chrestians who came before Christianity?

Are you talking of Yahweh, the genocidal God that Christians adore? If real, would you shoot that bastard for his mass murders?

IDK, but it is really stupid to think Jesus would preach cannibalism. His way of thinking is what he was selling, not body parts.

So you have no answer as to why sin is a happy fault and necessary for our continuing evolution. Thanks for your other unqualified personal opinions.

The Exsultet hymn is a Christian hymn. Thanks for catching that.

Why do Christians sing of Adam's sin, and ours, by implication, as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan? Do you not agree with common Christian beliefs?

How is your genocidal and homophobic God a better moral authority than your present government? Would your God kill off all the LGBTQ+ in total, or would he have you keep the young females this time ?

Only a complete fool like you would speak of something no one proposed. The word pledge was used and not pray. Only a dishonest fool like you pulls such B.S.

I do not trust your judgement to understand much, not even how to argue, given your unqualified opinion that invites no reply or show the difference. Go waste someone else's time.

If you weigh Jesus' body and blood, he would not feed many, so the reference cannot be carnal/physical. It must be spiritual consumption of thinking and not cannibalism. Remember the special meaning of the sop of the Last Supper, as a reward to ones best friends.

Jesus said if we just think about a sin, I don't know, screwing someone perhaps, it is a sin in and of itself. From that we can see that Jesus does not allow freedom of choice or conscience.

Have you seen American kids do their morning pledge? It is to country and not to a God. If the Chinese are at your door, all will pray and pledge to the state is what sustains you and not some God.

I agree with you on grace. God controls whether one will believe or not and thus God damns whoever he wants. Regardless of the scriptures that say he does not lose any souls. Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design? Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHYeHN4ZUQ Those quotes seem to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us. The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures. If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith? Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm? Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please? I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed. Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did. What is your choice of those two options? Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars. I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians. What do you think is the truth? Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?

Inquisitors and jihadists won't like that. They lose their jobs. Tell us though, if none of us are to correct bad behavior, how can we collectively stop doing bad behavior. Have you not read that for evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing?

Except discrimination without a just cause, that they eight ignore, which makes atheism a better ideology than anti LGBTQ+ right wing religions. Stats are clear that the less religiosity in a nation, the more peaceful and law abiding it is. Check the U.S jail stats. Almost all believers.