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Because you and I are funny!? Seriously!? Bear1? Can we talk Trump?!? The thread is about Trump!? Ok serious now Bear et al, how do you guys at this point possibly rationalize how a President openly mocks US laws, fellow Americans, widows, anything that moves? You find that dignified? Do you believe a President or leader of a nation has some sort of obligation to control his emotions and behaviour? Is the office Trump represents something that requires he act in a dignified manner? The POTUS is an office you get elected to but for a max. of 8 years. It precedes you and procedes you and is bigger than you. It is not just a partisan seat to engage in partisan politics but a ceremonial position in which you are expected to represent all Americans not just the ones who think like you or like you. The current President has no emotional impulse control and is a classic example of a sociopath. He has a narcissistic personality disorder in which he can't differentiate his own identity and thoughts from those of others in the sense he can not possibly imagine they are different. If there is any sort of conflict in his narcissistic mind the other side becomes an immediate threat to be killed if not physically by words. This behaviour is played out time and time again. He has no ability to perceive or sense any kind of feelings of others. His own feelings are superficial, glib, surface level immediate and attached to serving what ever impulse comes though him at the moment. There is no thought to what he says. in terms of how it will serve or harm others. Every word out of his mouth is about demanding something he wants. Homo sapiens by nature are pack animal apes and so we by our inherent primate behaviour look to a psycho/sociopath to lead us. We like to call them alpha-males. Take a look at the history of most civilizations, its usually a psycho-sociopath (both words mean the same thing) leading it until it evolves past a certain level of collective awareness. For the United States at this time to have turned to Trump as a leader is a vivid sign of some sort of serious collective psychosis. This is a country that has had a vast range of leaders but look at who the leaders were and please do not tell me Trump is on the same level as anyone before him. America has always had a love affair with John Wayne-Clint Eastwood-Charles Bronson type tough bad asses..but today it appears Americans can't differentiate what they watch on t.v. and in movies from real life and thus they vote in a t.v. celebrity as President. Sheer insanity. They actually believed his fake board room. the money money money anthem, signify leadership[ qualities and an admirable person to lead others.What a far cry from Lincoln or the Roosevelts. America has always had a fascination with fascists. It flirted with Hitler, Generals McArthur and Patton. Ironically To win WW2 it required a leader the exact opposite of a flamboyant sociopath like Patton to unify the other armed forces and put individual egos like Patton's or Montgommery's to the side. This is where Eisenhower came in-he's everything Americans today would not like, rational, soft-spoken, disciplined, always considering the range of options available and weighing and assessing the wide range of views on an issue to determine course of action. The closet personality one can find in US Presidents to Trump is Teddy Roosevelt a man with classic hyperactivity and dyslexia. However this man was no psycho-sociopath. He cared about peoples' feelings particularly the opposition's. His charm was that he cared about everyone he encountered genuinely. Trump would like to think he is a Teddy Roosevelt but he's not. He can't create a vision as Roosevelt did because he's not connected to anything larger than him in life like Roosevelt was. Teddy Roosevelt invited black leaders to lunch at a time when segregation was loud and blatant. He was able to sit with trade unions and get compromises. Yes he was a warrior which Americans love, but he was a genuine soldier not a draft dodger and he followed a strict code of discipline and behaviour with his men never asking them to do something he would not and never humiliating anyone. Trump is a pathetic man. A small, pitiful underdeveloped soul with a classic sociopathic mind unable to perceive anything around him that does not suit his immediate need to be gratified.In this sense I believe the next generations of Americans are looking at the ones in front of them and I hope for our sake Trump gives them a classic example of what happens when someone and people as a whole stop caring and get caught up simply in the greed of filling their immediate needs. The sole complement anyone could possibly give Trump is he's been good for the economy. That is if course a crock of shit. He has not a clue what policies his government has done for business. He is removed from any actual policy creation and can not read or for that matter follow a conversation. He's a figurehead. As for the myth the US economy is doing better, in terms of global economy the multi-national corporations are now doing better because they can now create free trade agreements to give them access to cheaper labour and countries with no labour or safety laws. That's whose doing better and they are doing better precisely because they use stooges like Trump to distract from their agenda which is simply making all of us more dependent on an economic distribution network controlled by forces outside government. He appeals to the fear of Americans. He appeals to them by making them feel frightened and he is the one to save them. That is pathetic sociopathatic manipulation. The only thing Americans have to fear is themselves and the fact this fear drives them to turning to false Gods and prophets.

No Taxme. Trump does not have a monopoly on the right of center. Nothing in what Eyeball has said about Trump differs then some of us far more to the right than he on issues. Its got nothing to do with Trump being a victim of leftist Liberals, bullshit. Trump admitted to using his office to pressure the Ukraine to investigate Biden. He never denied it. He admitted it and then asked China to do the same. He admitted using his office to pressure a government to investigate his political opponent. The fact the Republicans apologize for what he did shows their partisanship and nothing else. Having a conflict of interest is a legal concept not a political one. Trump has turned a legal conflict of interest issue into a pathetic attempt to protect himself by making it partisan and claiming there is no difference between himself and the office he represents and his interests are automatically the interests of the United States and Potus. You defend him because he is a fascist and that suits your ideology. In fact Conservatives could not and should not support Trump. He uses government to crush individuality, equality and to bully and abuse those he disagrees with. He is the anti-thesis of a Conservative.The only reason he does not wear a brown shirt is he dodged the armed forces but he has no problem wrapping himself in a flag to get his crowds riled up. Today just when he could not lower his pathetic self any lower after his tantrum diatribe to Pelosi he made an absolutely pitiful remark as to one of his recently deceased opponents suggesting this person was now in hell. Republicans in the House of Representatives quickly distanced themselves from him and walked over and apologized to his widow today. This is past partisanship.

(note, Dec.19-no.9 edited by me voluntarily-I went too far) Just a couple of things: 1-Santa and his sleigh in real life would be intercepted and force landed if not blown out of the sky 2-Santa's reindeer's poo when descending from the above and hitting rooves would cause major liability 3-Santa is clearly a pedophile 4-Santa is Satan if you simply put the n back where it belongs and it would describe the obsession with materialism and why he descends into a fire-place (hell) 5-Rudolph would be arrested for driving while intoxicated 6-Santa's toys are made by slave and cheap labour in Asia 7-Santa's Elves are cult following lunatics or exploited 8-if the three wise men were so smart why did not one of them give Jesus Israeli savings bonds or something practical 9-if Mary really did have Jesus but remain a virgin can you please explain what the hell Joseph was doing hanging around late at night 10-why do people kill trees and bring them in their house causing millions of squirrels and birds to go homeless 11-why do people at Christmas think they can buy their way out of the bad things they did 12-why do people at Christmas think they are getting a deal the day after Christmas when they know damn well the prices were jacked up before Christmas and have only been discounted back to their normal prices 13-why do Supreme Court of Canada Judges wear Santa Claus outfits 14- why must politicians send stupid cards to people who never voted for them posing with their families but never their mistresses 15-why must Christians feel guilty that Santa never delivered toys to we Jews, I do not blame them, its cool 16-why must Christians ask me if its ok to say Merry Christmas-why can't they be happy and celebrate whatever they want as long as they do not hurt anyone 17-why do Christians put hairnets on ham and serve ham anyways at Christmas 18-what is with Christians and mayonnaise while we are at it, why the obsession 19-if Santa is fat he would be diabetic so why would he drink coke 20-why would people leave socks out for their presents, why not leave their underwear s well, how rude is that not to mention smelly 21-why do we have to watch that movie over and over with Jimmy Stewart he was such a whiner 22-Scrooge and the Christmas stoy was a movie made by communists in Hollywood to undermine capitalism 23-the Grinch movie is racist as the Grinch is a clear reference to a different skin coloured individual assigning him negative qualities. Finally Santa would be arrested for break and entry, and home invasion and in US homes be shot and killed not to mention getting a serious hernia trying to fit into chimneys. So I say oh just calm down.

No you have him mixed up with Steven Segal.

Charlie Sheen, Charlie Manson, a fine line.

Trump does many things wrong and he does many things that could be considered abusive. Some of the things he does wrong are abusive some of them are just stupid. However virtually every time he communicates it is to insult someone and that is both wrong and abusive. He has lowered the office of the President and what it should stand for to nothing but a full toilet that needs to be flushed and cleaned.

I was making a reference to the concept of "deep state" not Trump or Trump's behaviour. As usual you did not grasp the point. As for Trump's behaviour, it speaks for itself in terms of his state of or lack of emotional stability and control. He reminds me of plenty of people I saw in the court system who beat their wives, children and dogs. Been there, done that. Just another angry man over-compensating for having a tiny prick. The Americans need to elect Shaquille O'Neil next election and deal with their anxiety once and for all.

I am not left wing and I totally agree with you on Trump and I love skim milk. I was never breast fed and never wanted my mother's breast milk. The only thing I suck on/with is being polite. In further to response to my comrade Bush-Chaney's comments about us "fearing" Trump up until now I would have said many of us do not fear him but loath him a huge difference. However the demented letter he sent to Pelosi is a very very disturbing red flag. It should raise fear that a man like this is behaving so emotionally out of control and no one is able to control him. This is not the man I want with his fingers on weapons that could blow up the world. He is right out of a Dr. Strangelove scenario. Regards, Peter Sellers

Eye I probably without meaning to sound presumptuous but reading past posts from you probably share your views as to corruption and the crap behind the scenes but honest man honest as can be, I have no friggin clue what anyone means by a Deep State and its precisely because Trump uses it to justify his perceptions I suspect it as being delusional. I mean sheeyat, the extent of filth and corruption and networks that support it I can well imagine but hell if I could provide you actual proof of anything. That was my point. I sort of sounded like I was questioning you. Nah I question all of us in this crazy world as to what we think we know and don't know. I do not know about you Eye but never in my life have I seen such a mentally ill and dangerous man with the power Trump may have being defended. I know my parents lived during the time of Hitler, Stalin, and I think Putin, Hussein, Caucescu, Ghaddafi, Mao, Pinochet, to name a few are/were ogres, but never like I said have I seen so many support such a lunatic and make excuses for him well except for Canadians in Canada with Trudeau and Kim Kardashian's fans. All I can tell you Eye is Trump is insane and many in the US are in collective denial but I can't at this point believe the Republicans are so weak and spineless they will sit back now and continue with this Emperor has no clothing crap. Then again I am 63 and like Billie Eilish so what the hell do I know. I listen to some punk 17 year old kid and love her music. Makes me a nut case. I have fallen prey to Satanist children inheriting this damn world and think they will survive in spite of this mad man and people in my generation who defend and empower Trumps and Trudeaus. His latest demented letter to Pelosi shows he really has gone off the deep end if I can use that reference.

1. Oh please. 2. I never discussed whether you are a patriot or not. 3. Your words on this forum in regards to Hong Kong and other issues speak very loudly who you support and why 4. This is not about you or your previous posts on Hong Kong or defending the People's Republic of China's behaviour. 5. This thread is about the next Tory leader. Whoever he or she is, many of us on this forum would hope they have a spinal cord and tell China to go stuff itself.

What is deep state Eyeball other than a buzz word. How do you define it and how do you know what it controls? It is a concept that is inherently unproven, subjective and conspiratorial. Hey I like conspiracies. They are entertaining. They try connect dots and create connections when none may exist to make sense of things and bring order to what may very well just be random chaos. The technical word for it is" apophenia" the tendency our brains have to mistakenly perceive connections and meaning between unrelated things. It first was conceived by a psychiatrist Klaus Conrad when discussing the beginning stages of schizophrenia. A sub-category of it is "pareidolia" whoch explains our tendency for incorrect perception of a stimulus as an object, pattern or meaning we thing we know such as seeing shapes in clouds or faces in abstract patterns or hidden messages in music or speeches. The fact is you and I have no clue. We do see things but sometimes we think we see things. When 9-11 happened, when any political event or catastrophe happens, within seconds people become apophenic seeing meanings and connections in the events. Our brain does this. It tries to make sense of the continuous non-stop stimuli that bombards it by categorizing it so as to control it. Deep state? For me its just another buzz word conspiracy theory. Illuminati, cloning, Satanist-Masonic-Draco shape-shifting, on and on it goes some of it deliberately false information disseminated by governments such as Turkey, North Korea and Russia, sometimes by our own allies. We don't know. We also don't know which part of what we hear is the result of schizophrenic delusions, insecure people trying to make themselves look smart, people spouting theories to try get attention and be liked, on and on. People like to pose themselves as being one of the few "chosen" who really know the story while everyone else is mistaken. Its how cult leaders control folowers by leading them to believe they are privileged and in an elite category of superiority thanks to their cult leader. Its what pimps and predators and con men use to get your guard down and control you. No one knows what is and is not true. We think we do. We are bombarded with an information highway but known of us knows who writes it and what motivates it, we just think we do. Get back to me with any proof of a deep state. Yah yah, I know. I see everyone giving Satanic ok signals (666), using the shhhh sign on their lips, covering their eye, using the sign of the pyramid. Yah yah. I see Trump do it continuously. And? yah yah, Hollywood is run by pedophile, blood sucking pedophiles. Got it. Been there. Satan worshippers. Elite illuminati controlling the world. All I see are homo sapiens...naked apes running around making ape noises and engaging in pack behaviour and indicating the pack they are in which makes them feel stronger than simply being an individual. Np deep state, just apes claiming to be in packs. No deep state, just baboons...me..you...fleas and bananas.

They sure did. Absolutely Roy was pivotal as well as the fact you had the two best centres at the time. Of the two who do you like more. Man Forsberg was awesome but I might have to go with your other guy. On a serious note, we have a strong tradition in Montreal you put the team first. Boom Boom Geoffrion, Guy Lafleur, were given their buh byes for being too primma donna as well. Roy was a primma donna. You don't do that in Montreal. Not the place for it. Do not blame Mario. Mario was defending a tradition that no one was bigger than the team. Mario pound for pound was one of the best fighters I ever saw and went from an offensive explosion to defensive specialist on the Habs putting the team first instead of being a one way scorer and getting himself more attention and probably money. He would have pulled Roy but Roy in the middle of the game quit on his fellow players and humiliated them and Tremblay defended their honour. No one but no one in Montreal blamed Tremblay for that fiasco. Roy was a primma donna hot head. Yes he was an excellent goalie but a large ahole as well as was shown after he retired and became an abusive coach. He's a hot head jack ass. Look at your two centres that won the cup for you. That is the example of class acts in hockey. We had our class acts, Cournoyer, Big M, Henri Richard, Jean Beliveau, Lapointe-Savard-Robinson, Dryden, Gainey, Claude Provost. The Leafs had theirs, Armstrong, Horton, Keon, Bower, Sittler, MacDonald, Clark. Gimmee those kind of guys anyday. On Detroit you want class acts, Norm Ulman, Alex Delvechio, Sawchuck, Marcel Pronovost, Paul Henderson, Gary Unger, interesting all the Leaf-Red Wing traded players. I liked Gary Bergman but he could be dirty. Mickey Redmond I liked to. He had went with Guy Charon to get the Big M. Redmond would have been another Big M but he had a chronic bad back that cut his career short which is why Montreal traded him. As for your Avalanche, your a child. I remember when they were the Rockies and Don Cherry was their coach. Colorado is stoner country. Its like California. Everyone is high.

Ok you win on that one. I think its ironic. I see zero difference between Biden and Trump.

OMG are you for real. Are you really that blind to what Trump did? Really? How do you pretend Trump has a legitimate role in initiating any investigation against Biden? Explain how it is in the President's job description to order the investigation of his political opponents by anyone let alone foreign governments. Please provide the law that allows him to do this. In your world Presidents are above the law and can use the powers of the office no matter how conflicted their interests may be. You are not for real.

China now has good relations with Saudi Arabia and Egypt and is tight with Pakistan and Iran and yes right now at this time, allied with Russia which is allied with Turkey. China is allied with both Iran and Saudi Arabia and it has a naval alliance with Israel. It plays with who it needs. Russia right now serves its interests for gas and oil. I see a Russia-China-Turkey-Iran alliance with Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Israel being placated by Russia and China at this time who are promising to keep Turkey and Iran from bothering them. I think however, this Russia-China-Turkey-Iran alliance, is a direct threat to Israel, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and Western Asian allies as well as India. That all said, and back to gun control, I think the major problem is hand guns not assault rifles in Canada. In the US is appears to be a different set of conditions. We already have gun control that they would never agree to but from what I understand you can easily convert a legal rifle to an auto assault rifle anyways.

The issue about who is Canada to lecture others about military affairs is a distinct issue and I agree the current Prime Minister has zero credibility in regard to that topic. The current leader waxed poetic about how he admired China anyways. This is someone who thinks everyone loves him. Bottom line is I could care less about Trudeau. What I am arguing is China is a military threat and the US if we are on the topic carries way more than its weight in the South China seas balancing China and we under-estimate the cost to the US to have to constantly upgrade its military to counter China and that the US does and so to say China is not a threat to the US is not the case. It is a direct threat to US overseas interests and always has been. Its a direct threat to all Western nations. We all rely on the US to balance it as we always have. Taiwan, South Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam, the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand and Japan are directly threatened by China. China invaded and illegally seized Vietnamese offshore territory and oil. It invaded and illegally violated Indonesian waters. It protects and enables North Korea. It is currently in a state of conflict with both Japan and Taiwan over territory and the very existence of Taiwan let alone its desire to take over specific Japanese islands it does not recognize. Due to Trump's instability, traditional US allies at this point can't rely on the US anymore than NATO can. As for Trudeau he enables China to bully Canada. Our country wants an effeminate foreign policy and that is what they have.

That wasn't the only thing he shook on Putin's body. Trust me.

Can you respond without an exclamation mark!? Can you respond without rhetorical questions? Can you make an actual point? How about this writing style!? Its damn annoying!?

Given the colour of Trump's hair I would suggest B-C he's been pissing on his own head.

If you say so. I think however Tibet, India, Australia, South Korea, Indonesia, Japan, the Philippines, New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam would disagree with you.

Actually China may not be as strong as we think it is but to be as oblivious as you are as to its potential to start or engage in a war against the West is naïve. It could and we should be prepared for a Muslim-Chinese alliance in a war. That scenario is a distinct possibly. China is on the verge of a civil war and to offset it, it may choose a war lashing out at the West to distract from its problems and unite its people. I also do not underestimate a war in the South China seas. I am glad you laugh off China that easily. Some of us consider them a dangerous unstable element.

This is in response to both Michael Harder and Bubber Miley's comments. The continued apology for convicted pedophile Ben Levin by Liberal apologists on this thread and tdenial of his role in drafting educational curriculum comes from a denial by then Education Minister Wynne who upon finding out Levin was charged with child sex offences quickly tried to distance herself and his curriculum she championed from his criminal charges. “Ministers and deputy ministers do not write curriculum,” ..“Curriculum is written by subject experts in conversation and in consultation with a wide array of people — and curriculum is reviewed and written on an ongoing basis,” The pro-Liberal Toronto Star reported the above and deliberately omitted the final part of her statement where she then later contradicted herself and in fact said Levin had “oversight” in regards to the curriculum. Also it is public domain and fact that in a 2009 newsletter Levin stated contrary to what Wynne tried to say that: “Dear colleagues, I am writing to provide an update on our sector’s agenda ... I will be filling the ADM (assistant deputy minster) position previously held by George Zegarac ... The division formerly headed by George Zegarac will be renamed as ‘Learning and Curriculum.’ It will have responsibilty for curriculum and for Special Education including Provincial Schools.” He also stated on April 6, 2009: “Today, the ministry released its new equity and inclusive education strategy paper ... This province wide strategy has been a priority for our Minister of Education Kathleen Wynne and me.” He also stated on June 24, 2009, the following: “Realizing the Promise of Diversity: Ontario’s Equity and Inclusive Education Strategy” (the curriculum) sets out a “vision for an equitable and inclusive education system.” ….“the principles of equity and inclusive education should be embedded into all aspects of board and high school operations including program, employment, research, curriculum, resources, instructional and assessment practices.” He also stated in an interview with OISE’s winter 2009 newsletter, “I was the deputy minister of education. In that role, I was the chief civil servant. I was responsible for the operation of the Ministry of Education and everything that they do; I was brought in to implement the new education policy.” So to try back paddle and pretend his role in the creation of the curriculum is absurd. Furthermore the curriculum contains what is called “The Equity and Inclusive Education Strategy" a phrase and concept Levin created. This is a strategy Levin wrote about in numerous texts and articles claims its purpose os to teach children certain values to combat, “gender based violence, homophobia, sexual harassment and sexual behavior in the classroom". It comes directly from Levin and was placed in the 2010 and 2015 curriculums and comes directly from Levin back in 2009. Here is the ciurriculum Levin wrote and continues to advocate and formed the basis of his 2019 and 2015 curriculums: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242526006_CURRICULUM_POLICY_AND_THE_POLITICS_OF_WHAT_SHOULD_BE_LEARNED_IN_SCHOOLS Here are two other of many sources of where the curriculum of Ben Levin comes from: http://www.oecd.org/education/school/38692676.pdf http://michaelfullan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/13396080290.pdf Also Bubber Miley made a false accusation that I accused people in the government other than Levin of being a pedphile. He also went on to contend because I report public fact, that Levin is a registered convicted sex offender that this is libel. To be crystal clear I never called or suggested anyone but Levin on this thread was or is a registered pedophile. The fact is Levin is and my stating that is fact and so can not be libel. For Bubber than to claim I am a lawyer and should know this is true, and that is why I know he is wrong, and stating fact is not libelous nor can it be. Levin was convicted of 3 charges including possessing child pornography and counselling sex crimes. Its relevant because this man wrote an agenda claiming it protects children from sexual predators when the very person who wrote it was and remains one. It is of course relevant and we need to challenge whether his pedophile perceptions coloured its concepts, perceptions and judgements about sexuality, sexual behaviour and children. The court records showed that Levin in 2010 was a regular on a sex site engaging in fantasies about raping children and engaging in incest with children. He stated he and his wife liked to have sex with children and was interested in talking to other parents also interested in the same. He counselled one person to rape a child and shared fantasies about sex with his wife and children. In 2 years he made 144 connections and had 29 subscribers he would up-date with images and stories of sex with children he would post. He had over 5,000 viewers and 44 who labelled him their “favourite”. He also went on other pedophile sites. The police found over 1,750 contacts and Levin kept record of their sexual preferences. They found comments from him boasting he was securing access to children on business trips. Levin is fact out of jail and continues to defend and exhibit his pedophile beliefs: https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/depraved-world-view-of-ben-levin-continues-on-parole http://www.theinterim.com/issues/society-culture/ben-levin-defends-child-porn/

So what will you do send in thought police? What test will you use to determine how and if they "make them feel ashamed" and will you put these parents in jail? Will you take their children from them? "Normalizing human behavior through the media"? What does that mean/ How do you normalize anything let alone do it through the media. What criteria do you use for what is normal, what processes will you use. Sounds like something right out of a totalitarian state or illuminati-Satan conspiracy. Will you implant things in our brains? You use exactly the same reasoning aboriginal children were taken from their parents less than 50 years ago in this country. Your advocacy of state intervention as to parenting sounds familiar. In fact its been done by many, Hitler, Stalin, Ceausescu, The Duche Party of North Korea, the People's Republic of China, Sharia law states. Thanks but keep your totalitarian desires to impose what you consider "normal" on children away from me. Been there done that. All you need is a little red book or a brown shirt.

I EDITED THIS ON DEC.15/19 How do you know that? The term "natural" simply means something caused by nature and not made or caused by humankind. Human behavior is complex. Using your logic if gender dysphoria is not "natural" then necessarily all human behavior is not natural. If that is the case what methodology could you use that differentiates non human made behavior? None exists. However what neurology, psychiatry, psychology, genetics, all agree on is that human behavior may be either genetically predisposed and is also earned and there is no clear line between the two as they are often inter-mixed. What we also know is genetic evolution and learned behavior can be adaptive (positive) or maladaptive (negative) to survival of the species known as homo sapiens and individual members of homo sapiens. What we do know is that "gender" is a basic element that goes into the criteria you and I use to shape our individual personality and sense of self. We usually learn our basic gender by comparing ourselves to our father, mother and siblings. This gender identity is referred to as "biological sex identity) and is determined based on the appearance of the infant usually at birth based on their exterior genitals. If they have both, then parents have to decide which one will be pursued or wait further to see what happens. The condition of having two sets of genitals (hermaphrodite) is obviously an issue. It is natural in the sense that the person born with both genitals did not themselves create them, they were born that way due to chemical reasons associated with hormones and other processes.So biological sex is not ALWAYS determined based on the appearance of an infant at birth. Gender dysphoria is a condition where someone feels the opposite gender of their body. It should NOT be confused with sexual preference of choice of partner to have sex with. For example, a woman may have an anatomy and physical features of a woman but may feel like a man underneath and identify herself as such but her sexual preference may not be knowGender dysphoria is not a simple one size fits all concept where you don't like your penis or vagina. Its far more complex that. People with a strong and persistent desire to live as the sex are that their physical one, may have such desires for many reasons and not necessarily learn them. People don't just wake up one morning and ask to cut their penis off or turn their vagina into a penis.They go through years of anxiety, questioning and then no reputable professional doctor will change their identity until they go through a very strict screening and psychoanalysis including learning to live as the opposite gender before being operated on.People with this condition say they feel trapped inside a body that does not match their gender identity.Not all such people get a sex change. Some learn to live as cross dressers or as gay or lesbian. So what role our media has in shaping peoples' values in this regard is again complex. It does appear at times to be excessive in either religious extremist values or politically correct extremist values. What I do not hear in discussions on transgender operations is that sex change is dangerous. It can kill, cause cancer, and has some very serious side effects that cause pain and suffering and so people who undertake it sacrifice their own safety. So you decide what that means. Some of you will say to do this means you have to have fortitude and guts, others will say it means you are disturbed. I don't judge I just know its no cakewalk. I discuss it in clinical terms not in judgmental terms. Not my right to morally judge others unless they want to break the law and use sex as a way to commit crime. I also personally believe children up until puberty should be left alone and free to be asexual and not feel they have to define themselves as gay, straight, etc. I would argue how they are raised is complicated and can be impacted on by their parents, religion, ethnic values and schools. I argue we should simply teach children the parts of their body, safety and hygiene which the curriculum does and I agree with. Again Bubber Miley made a false statement saying I rejected the curriculum in place. No only parts of it. I don't agree wit parts of the Levin curriculum which presumes it is acceptable to teach (indoctrinate) children in kindergarten or grade 1, 2, 3 what homosexuality or transgenderism is. To me those assumptions are based on adult projections of sexual thought onto children so why be surprised Levin is a pedophile. A child must feel free to learn such things ON THEIR OWN with their parents and/or loved ones or people their parents choose out of school to guide them, NOT adults with political agendas to teach what is "normal". I am not comfortable with sexualizing children and then couching it and rationalizing it by saying it is done to protect these children. I challenge that.. I believe our job as adults and parents is to wait until we are asked by our children and not push ourselves onto children in the name of our politically correct or religious or any other righteousness or moral agenda. Let children be innocent. Let them be children without a need to sexualize issues until they are ready to ask questions. Stop shoving it on them. For me there is no difference between pedophile Ben Levin imposing his sex views on children or a religious extremist doing the same in the name of his or her religion. Most children I had to work with were damaged because we adults would not respect their privacy and we imposed ourselves on them. I ask Liberals how is your agenda any different than those of pedophiles or religious extremists? You think you are tolerant and defending tolerance? You think you are infallible? Take a step back. Everyone take a step back right or left of the issue and put the best interests of children not your own beliefs, first.

He wrote the curriculum and admitted he did and anyone can trace back the curriculum to his texts, articles and position papers which some of us have studied. Of course you are going to deny. What else can you do now. Also go find out what libel means because you keep throwing it out clearly not understanding it. Next, you are willfully ignorant. You assume I and everyone who does not support his curriculum carte blanche disagree with all of it. I never stated that and nor did Ford or anyone else. You are so busy assuming what other people think, you don't get it. You turn all issues into black and white, for or against postulations because that is how you project your thought patterns. You don't know what parts of the curriculum I do and do not agree with and you clearly ignore what parts I agree with and do not agree with from what I have stated. As for libel, stating a fact is not libel. Try grasp that. You seem to have a hard time with basic facts.