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As this is written let it be heard to all as I proclaim.. Turkey is being eaten!

Good question. Same principles with no partisan politics which probably means it's a concept that sounds great but can not happen.

Bullshit. Your previous words on this forum make it clear you are a racist bigot against both Muslims and Jews run along and burn a cross.

Yes and no. I disagree with your British history bias.

..and you with your beloved Feuhrer...definitely not new..

Booze babbling.

And that is ok because that is what this forum is about and I respect you both for very different reasons. I am mostly with you Wes but with Eye on Trump and debate on it is great. Ease up on each other says Mr. Windbag.

You do not have the balls to say Jew so you couch it. In fact Trump is a strong Zionist which makes your comment even more stupid than the veiled Jew comment it was intended to be.

Nothing in what you underlined is anything but your subjective partisan opinion which can not establish anything but that. Your take on Trump is not automatically valid because you say so. To try suggest subjective opinion is fact is untenable. So too is using the arguement a President can order countries to investigate people he has a direct conflict of interest with for any reason. Next your continued argument Trump can be a scum bag because you think others are is also untenable not to mention illogical. Trump now has to rely on Republican partisans to deny defend what he did and lower the standards of Potus and what is expected of it. Trump has turned Potus into his personal overflowing toilet and you do not want to flush it. Ironic coming from a man who said he was gonna drain swamps. Wes Potus needs to be flushed.

No. A true Habs fan judges his Habs by what they bring to the team as a whole. He was a primma donna. He was not in the same league as Gump Worsley, Jacques Plante, George Vezina or Dryden and now Price for the Habs in terms of leadership and winning. He did not play enough and do as much as they did to warrant respect. Until he apologizes to Mario Tremblay he can kiss my tri-coloured bum bum.I admit he was an excellent goalie but no better than Brodeur or Parent . I also think had Pele Lindbergh not died he would might have been one of the best .I would take my hat off to Sawchuck, Tretiak, Hasek, Linbergh, Parent, Tony Esposito, Ken Dryden, Jacques Plante, Terry Sawchuck in their prime before Roy. Also I think the goalies in the 6 team leagues with no masks were far more skilled. So I have deep respect for the guys I watched growing up, Hall, Crozier, Bower, Worsley, Giacomin, Cheevers-Johnson. No one is in the same league as Sawchuck and from a purely technical perspective, Bernie Parent and Tretiak to me were the goalies to coach kids to be and before them Plante. I still swear by the Tretiak-Parent=Plante posture which comes from Plante and Sawchuck but Sawchuk had one arm was actually longer than the other. Another guy with perfect style was Eddie the Eagle the last of the Plante Parent type goalies and he had no discs in his back and played into his 40's so there is never knowing how good he could have been with a good back. Likewise Mike Palmateer's knees went out before we could properly assess his greatness and Linbergh died in that car cash. If Grant Fuhr had not been an alcoholic he may have been better than he was as well. Brodeur in my opinion is equivalent to Roy and was more of a leader. Roy I know is considered one of the best but not for me. I measure temperament, leadership qualities. He had no emotional control or leadership qualities. As a Coach-GM he's been a punk who needs his head slapped. Regards, Mario Tremblay fan.

The above is my further response.

Uh yah..until you get over-run with rats. Then you call the exterminator. Kind of hard discovering the beauty of sewer rats.

1. As far as I know from the years on this forum I have never read anyone except you who claimed to be a white nationalist conservative. I call your opinions out as white Christian Identity supremacist ideology on this forum no one else's.. I am specific to challenge your words. I have never called anyone else out for the same views because I have never read any and if I do I will call them out too. Your exercise of reinventing yourself to be part of a larger group and trying to couch your true believes using the sanitized term "white nationalist conservative" only shows you are afraid to admit what you really stand for and invent a larger category to hide in due to your insecurity and need to try make your opinions seem wide spread on this forum and synonymous with conservatism to try legitimize them. 2. Your reference to "money lenders", and resurrect the blood libel doctrine to justify hating all Jews speaks for itself and shows you are in fact engaging in Christian Identity white supremacist ideology. To that I say you don't represent Christians or their doctrines, you in fact expropriate Christianity to justify hating not just Jews but other Christians who don't agree with your version of Christianity and/or anyone of colour, gays, women, anyone you define as inferior to you. 3. You again show a dim-witted ,conflicted and contradictory cognitive process devoid of basic reasoning, i.e., if as you claim money changers are white supremacists, then necessarily you are a Jew. I think the only thing to be said when reading your comments is that are couched, passive aggressive, contradictory and conflicted showing you have unresolved issues with your own sense of self when communicating. 4. Finally, as for my address, your current state as evidenced in your words, indicates you wouldn't be able to find it no matter what directions you are given.

On a more cheery note I like gentiles at Christmas time. Some can be hateful but then we all can be so what can you do. That said in the spirit of Christmas may I wish all my gentile friends a good one and leave them with this: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=earl+cruggs+foggy+mountain+boys&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dearl%20cruggs%20foggy%20mountain%20boys%26qs%3dn%26form%3dQBVR%26sp%3d-1%26pq%3dearl%20cruggs%20foggy%20mountain%20boys%26sc%3d0-31%26sk%3d%26cvid%3dF16CF3056D5046AA8FF0FD02E01AD2D8&view=detail&mid=211E53B540673FD3157A211E53B540673FD3157A&&FORM=VDRVRV

Christianity was brought to Canada by foreign born French and British. It comes from a foreign nation and a foreigner's preachings. Yes its evident you do not practice Christianity,. Your above words demonstrate you try rationalize your right to discriminate against others by posing yourself as a Christian martyr. You don't defend Christianity, you simply continue to promote white supremacist doctrine on this forum specifically the white supremacist doctrine of "Christian identity" which beliefs that: 1-Christianity is an identity which ONLY is made up of Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, or what you would refer to as Aryan peoples; 2-your Christian Identity concept defines those in 1 above the only true people of God and everyone else inferior; 3-your Christian identity defines we Jews as a cursed people because were are the so called offspring of Cain who is referred to as a "serpent hybrid" or "serpent seed" while you and your kind are descended from Abel; 4-your Christian identity believes that all non-whites or for that matter all people other than as mentioned in 1 above should be exterminated or enslaved in order to serve the white Christian race which is what you call the people in heaven under Jesus; 5-you believe only white people can be saved by Jesus no one else. So do me a favour do not couch and hide your beliefs. Admit them. Admit what you stand for. Admit you do not define Christians as Christians if they don't come from Germans, Ango-Saxons, Celtics, Nordics. Admit it. Have the integrity to admit what you stand for. You know where to find me when you have an urge to burn a cross.

So is curling. Look out call CBC.

B-C China sends a lot of students. Not all of them are their best, in fact most of them could not make it in China's system so are sent to North America or Europe as a second chance. They don't let the cream of their crop of intelligentsia go anywhere. Many who they send have to report back to their government sponsor what they are doing in school and what the research is in the school-its actually as Argus says a way to scout out and report what we are developing and we are only to glad to take their money and let them. I had a good friend doing his doctorate in applied psychology. I reported it a few times on here how he had to report back on new things he found the school he was at researching and when he could not they would threaten him so he started inventing things. He had family back home so did not dare do anything to piss them off. I used to have a beer with him. He chewed his nails right down. Sad actually and stupid. If China wasn't so damn insecure and greedy it could be exchanging information with all of us and helping us as we help them. Instead they choose this ridiculous competition. They have no one but themselves to blame for their isolated, repressed, oppressive climate that does not allow creativity and forces them to be a society of counterfeiters. They don't create, they imitate. They are to our planet what mocking birds are to the bird world. They can imitate others but they have no sound of their own,.

I get you but Hitler and Charlie Manson had tough childhoods too. Not a sufficient reason to feel sad for them. Many bullies come from screwed up childhoods. You can only use that excuse so long to rationalizebehavior. We all have had struggles. Some of us take those episodes of turmoil and turn them into positive lessons on how to overcome and turn bad into good while others it is an excuse to engage in negative behavior. Ultimately its an individual decision and in the case of Trump it is hard to believe he has done anything positive for anyone in his life to entitle him to any compassion. He may very well have and if so, good for him. All I go by and address is his pubic record which he chose to make public to rationalize his behavior. If he was doing all the things he does and harming no one but himself it would be none of my phakin business. On that private level I am no better than him or in the position to judge but once he puts himself public and starts telling others what to do, I get to challenge that, we all do and we should not feel compassion for people who hurt others and deliberately do so. I probably would save any compassion for the people he hurts and so necessarily his wife and children as well.

No that smell you refer to is because he does not change his panties or brush his teeth. Hitler did not become strong because no one challenged him. Your analogy I disagree with. I think the most dangerous thing one can do in a democracy is to remain silent when someone is stripping that democracy of all the basic principles and institutions that enabled that democracy. I do concede Trump mobilizes his support by playing on fear and when people challenge him he appeals to his supporters using those challenges as the basis of fear he uses to get them to support him. However that exercise of uniting his followers by getting everyone to hate him I self destructive and like Hitler eventually it turns on Trump as it did every other tyrant deposing of them in a violent manner. Fer crying out loud Yzermandius, he just turned on Billy Graham Jr. for questioning him and is now turning on the very fundamental Christians who voted for him. He has no care in the world who he insults and pisses off. He's simply creating chaos which fuels the coming hurricane with his hot air. Trump is like a balloon. Eventually he will burst and not by politicians standing up to him, but ordinary people and I think Trump is over-estimating his popularity and so are you. He has a ceiling on who likes him and its shrinking not growing. Each day as he puffs, that pop is coming closer. I now believe he may not even last the first term not because he will be found guilty in the Senate, but the exact opposite. Its going to force Republican Senators who are forced to protect him in the Senate find themselves losing votes they once had from their own supporters not winning votes from Democrats. I don't believe Christians who really follow their religion believe what he is doing is Christian and they will in the long run have a say in this. Republicans lean heavily on a traditional Christian vote and what he's doing is not something those people support. When you get a Conservative like Billy Graham Jr. speaking out against him that is a new turning of the tides so to speak. His lack of decency, his lack of morality can no longer be excused by them for partisan reasons. They are signalling they have had enough just as they did with Nixon. My prediction now is back to I think before the next election he has a "heart attack" and either dies from it or is disabled permanently. The so called deep state no longer uses bullets and gunmen in grassy knolls. If I was Putin I would be looking for another compromised stooge to back and clearly it aint Biden.

Then I agree with you. The media is anti Trump or ridiculously pro Trump-either way I agree the media at this point is not helpful. Its all opinion pieces one extreme or the other-can't argue with that. I think the media whatever that means lost its credibility years ago when it stopped reporting, and decided it could editorialize and instead of simply reporting what was happening began telling us what we were seeing rather than let us observe the facts and decide for ourselves by leaving their opinions out of it. Journalism like history should objectively report, not editorialize. I don't know what deep throat means or false news because nothing I hear from anyone these days is 100% truth or ever was especially when it comes out of the mouth of someone like Trump whose perceptions are as deluded as it gets.

The point is you too engage in nothing to worry about hear Americans like hysterical, anti-social psychopaths. Its great. You bet I hate Trump. I think he stands for everything the US was founded upon to challenge. He is the very tyrant Americans formed a country to rebel against-he ironically is exactly the kind of person America created its very existence to liberate itself from. Yes I hate Trump. He makes a mockery of American democracy and its institutions which I happen to support. He makes a mockery of Americans. General McArthur was a fascist, No different than Patton and had Truman not stepped in he would have had the world blown up in a nuclear war precisely because he was full of himself. Its precisely why inn WW2 long before Korea his own Navy and Armed Forces despised him. He was the anti-thesis of a true leader-he was an arrogant, narcissistic, self admiring peacock. The leaders who garnered the respect of their men did not do it by fear they did it by showing their men they did what they spoke and they acted as they asked others to act. No leader in any military unit can lead if he can't get the same shit in his fingernails and McArthur never got shit in his nails. You want anti-thetical examples of good leaders. try Omar Bradley and Eisenhower. They put their egos on the shelf. They did what Trump can not, listen, consider all ranges of possible solutions and approaches, never say things out in the open that could humiliate others, carried on trying to play down false flattery and always treating people with a consistent degree of politeness and decorum. By the way I thought Montgommery was an asshole as well for the same reason. Real leaders don't scream, they speak. Real leaders don't bully and humiliate they inspire people by presenting positive visions that unite, not fear mongering to make them feel threatened and divided. Get back to me when you deport everyone. Hitler planned at first to deport all his Jews. Then he changed his mind. See my take on history is a bit different than yours. When I see history repeating I don't need to wait for the camps to be built to speak up. I at least learned that. You think I am gonna sit on my ass while Trudeau floods this country with illegals placing them in camps which is what he's actually doing? You think I agree with him anymore than I do Trump. They are both totalitarian narcissistic fools with an inability to perceive any feelings but their own.

Wow did you miss the point. Ok first we take this article which clearly you read: https://dailycaller.com/2016/12/13/fdr-praised-mussolini-and-loved-fascism/ Well now FDR and many Americans openly admired Trump and Hitler. Yes many British and Europeans did as well including that pathetic excuse who abdicated from the British throne and well known American industrialist anti semites like Henry Ford....and? So does this mean if I compare Trump to Mussolini that is a good thing because FDR at one point liked fascists for being efficient? We have a Prime Minister in Canada who openly hero worsipped China for the same reasons FDR et al did Mussolini....where does that get Trudeau now with China and what happened to the US after fawning all over Hitler and Mussolini? You bet Americans flirted with Hitler and Mussolini and that is precisely the point...people both left and right in the US liked Hitler and Mussolini and now we have in Canada a putz like Trudeau a sheltered rich boy who admires China burned by the very people they worshippe So what is your point?Does this mean because Trump is a fear mongering fascist and you think he is efficient this is the only thing to consider? Does it mean you have no clue Trudeau, Roosevelt, everyone who hero worships false god fascist idols does not get burned? Why does your analogy remove the admiration you refer to from its actual full context and consequence? Where were you after the US and FDR had to go to war precisely because these people they admires for efficiency had no respect for the most basic of democatic and humane principles of law? What kind of analogy were you making? FDR of all people had to admit he was wrong and there was more to it then sampling admiring someone for being efficient and as the price for that efficiency came out and became known people like FDR realized just how wrong they were and had to challenge everything they were admiring. yah you forgot that part. How many times have I heard the comment, Hitler and Mussolini made trains run on time...and? In your analogy heroworshipping brutal tyrants has no ultimate consequences as long as the train runs on time? Is that it. Because if its not then you prove my point, looking blindly away from fascists and admiring what they do (Trump makes the economy better-the modern rationalization for making trains run on time))and we do not learn that people who admired tyrants in the past had their asses burned to a crisp and millions died because of their mistakes. Nah not you right. You c is precisely why you should have learned from history what Trump is and why cheer leading him is so dangerous. The only reason you defend him is because you think he serves your best interests. If he didn't and he was a leftist and called himself a socialist, you would have wanted him dead by now. As for the internment of Japanese citizens...too bad for them? What the hell does that have to do with Trump? Now you do what claim Trump treats "illegals" the way he does because his country is in a declared state of war against their nations? Is that your analogy? Are you telling me you do not know the difference between dealing with aliens in your country from a country in a declared state of war with you and those who are not from countries in a declared state of war with you? Are you telling me there is no difference? So great, Because we in Canada and the US arrested and detained Japanese, German and Italians during a declared state of war, that means its ok to arrest and detain anyone and suspend the Constitutions of our countries? So when do you start arresting people and placing them in camps based on their nationality..do tell me when that starts. Man you pro Trump people are something else the way you try twist history and the blatant violation of democratic fundamental principles a President is sworn to uphold to justify Trump being a pathetic two bit fascist. God bless Trump. Work on that one hand salute will yah right now its awful weak you Trump groups don't have the balls to hold your hand straight out only half way like you are afraid. Go on shout it out Zieg Donald Trump! Fuehrer of America! So when do you guys replace the idiot red hats with a more complete uniform complete with jodphurs, riding boots and shit brown shirts No doubt you'll have your uniforms made in a swet shop in Asia. Made in America. Right.

And your point Shady? If the FBI was abusing power as you say and not making a mistake, how does that make Trump's abuse a mistake as well? How does a second wrong make the first one right. You and Trump supporters use this argument all the time-others are abusive so Trump can be as well? Please do not tell me there is a double standard against Trump. He is no victim. It is precisely because he is the President he uses the double standard in his favour to abuse others. He is no victim of anyone. Give it a rest with that victim crap that he is some sort of Joan of Arc martyr.