Exactly where did I say that SNC created jobs? Will you read again.....and try to understand what you read: Your obvious lack of understanding, is quite enough to say, your opinion is.......unreasonable.

Jody Wilson-Raybould had stated numerous times, "NO!" ....and yet, Justin Trrudeau and his minions kept on. She even lost her job! If we put this along the context of sexual harassment - Trudeau (and his minions) would be run out of town (and feminists will demand his head on a platter!) How many politicians lost their seats, or were thrown out of caucus because of alleged harassment? NO, means NO! Why is this any different? In fact.....this is much worse. More importantly, we're also talking of obstruction of justice! This involves outright corruption! Trudeau is leading Canada down the path to become a banana republic - and all these pro-Trudeau media could ever do is try to justify Trudeau's corruption! When you say, for the sake of public interest, you mean the whole Canada - not just a particular place like.....Quebec! Media were not hostile with Trudeau last night, unlike they were with Scheer or Singh. No one challenged Trudeau, or did a follow-up when he evaded a question about him pointing out to Raybould that he is a member of Parliament for Papineau (and instead gave his usual talking point about jobs and Canada's interest).....so we know now, certain media will try to protect Trudeau! Is Trudeau saying as long as corporations will bring jobs - they will be above the law? Trudeau puts Canada's interest as a bargaining chip for his own gain! He wants to win the election, plain and simple! Trudeau is working on it to make it become acceptable as the norm: create jobs and you get special status! What is the worst that could happen to public's interest? That the system gets thoroughly corrupted.....and we end up like a real third world country! That there won't be any rule of law - in the real sense of the word. Wake up, Canada!

Remember when Trudeau wouldn't waive any solicitor-client confidentiality away? And then everyone in all political talk shows - even polls they did - applied the pressure on him that he ended up capitulating? I think.......he'll be forced to do it again, or this will really drag all the way to election day.

I don't think this was a game, nor do I think she had a game with this! How could she have planned for Trudeau to go along with that script? But, after all the positive reviews about her - and no doubt she's suddenly a celebrity - I think now, there is a chance that she'll consider running. I hope she doesn't run under the banner of the Liberals.

Not to me. Because.....your argument comes from ignorance of the Scriptures. You don't know the whole story why God had annihilated peoples. So, why should your ignorant argument be taken into consideration? Your only desire is to give some sort of "shock" value to it by your crude language (directed to God), in your deliberate attempt to be blasphemous. Nothing new with that, too. But I do wonder about the passion! Why so much passion about Him is coming from you - and a lot of anti-Christian? Dangerous? Nah. That can't be it. Perspectives are really topsy-turvy if that's the reason you folks cite why you display such passion. So many real dangerous stuff around us to channel your passion into. For someone who obviously doesn't believe - you seem to be going overboard with your response. This kind of reaction from quite a few anti-Christians is what's so baffling, really. They can't seem to engage in discussion without going off the handle - like, they suddenly lose it (just look at Kerfuffles' kerfuffle above ) - there's gotta be something behind that. Your posts are convoluted, too. Which is also common with anti-Christians I debate with. Like this one: Lol. Why wouldn't Christians interpret the devil literally the same way Jesus Christ did when they (Christians) are disciples of Christ! Isn't that why they're called CHRISTIANS? Hello? Okay.....I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your posts and engage with them since there's nothing coherent to engage with (based on these few ones that I've bothered with). Kerfuffle doesn't make any sense too. Just look at this: Why wouldn't I talk about the Scriptures - isn't that where French Patriot based his topic and OP? And if the topic talks about Satan and God- like as if they exist - aren't we supposed to discuss it on that ground? Talk about a big egg of a doh! To not make any sense.....to have a meltdown......I tell you, that's common among anti-Christians in forums. I'm already engaged in that other forum on pretty much the same thing, so there's no appetite for me to go on this thread. Cheers.

Triggered? For someone who's supposed to be glad......you sound more like.....angry? Anyway.....your message is still irrelevant.

Irrelevant!

Btw, I'm not asking you to "chat" with the sources I give. I'm giving them so you'll have some understanding of what you claim. It's been my experience in debates that most non-believers who make claim about the Bible, are either relying on other anti-Christian sources that has hardly any understanding of the Scriptures, or they've been cherry-picking lines from the Bible here and there - taking the verse(s) out of context. No one claims that believers are exempt from Satan. Satan will most likely try to target and confuse a Christian more than he would a non-believer - after all, isn't the purpose of Satan to take people away from God? Why do you think Jesus had warned us repeatedly about the devil, if we're immune to him? Here's my take on Satan's dominion. Satan has dominion over non-believers because unlike believers, non-believers don't believe in the Saviour, and they don't believe in the existence of Satan too. If you don't think something exists, will you prepare for it? Like, do we hang garlic around our necks so vampires won't get us? Because they don't believe, that's why non-believers are very easy target. They won't even know what hit them! Will Satan come to us as he is, or will he use all sorts of deceptions and wiles? Coincidentally, I've been discussing along this vein with a non-believer (in another forum), where-in I showed him that he is the classic sample of what Jesus described in John 8 (given above). Here is what I posted: Here you go invoking this so-called "ad hominem" attack again. Well, devildavid.....you gave yourself up for discussion when you kept giving your own opinion as a non-believer, for argument! You were also the one who posed the question about God (and Satan as God's designated "landlord" on earth). I addressed your question BLUNTLY! I gave you the Scriptures' explanation that Satan has dominion on only non-believers! I also gave you Jesus' explanation about non-believers and Satan - son/father relationship. It is you who provides me with ammunition to support what the Scriptures say: 1. Your relentless attempt to confuse people away from God. 2. Your ignorance of the Scriptures does not prevent you from spouting off foolish things about the Scriptures (in your attempt to discredit the Bible) - in other words, just like the devil, you are spreading lies! John 8 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 3. Your disparaging contempt for God. 4. You now speak for the devil - you're now his spokesman! Originally Posted by devildavid The devil appreciates your cooperation. Keep up the good work." 5. You proudly carry his name - which seems to be patronymic. Patronymic is defined by Merriam: A patronymic, or patronym, is generally formed by adding a prefix or suffix to a name. Thus, a few centuries ago, the male patronymic of Patrick was Fitzpatrick ("Patrick's son"), that of Peter was Peterson or Petersen, that of Donald was MacDonald or McDonald, and that of Hernando was Hernández. So from that perspective, devilDavid is to David what MacDonald is to Donald. I am addressing your argument head-on! I'm pointing out that you seem to fit Jesus' explanation about the Satan/non-believers father/son relationship to a T. Based from the Scriptures, you're being manipulated by the devil. We know why. You don't see it. You can't see it. We know why. No ad hominem attack here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- French Patriot, can you provide the Biblical verses that you claim in your OP?

Why put the tree in the middle of Eden, and tell Adam and Eve not to eat from it? Why was the devil allowed to enter that garden? Why were Adam and Eve banished from that garden? Why do people die? If you don't believe - fine. Why do you care what Christians believe? Why waste time creating threads - especially when such a benign response from a Christian easily triggers you off? And you want me to chat with you???? Bye bye.

According to the Scriptures, Satan has dominion over non-believers only. Jesus had given an explanation about Satan's relationship with non-believers. John 8 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. https://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-god-world.html On free will: https://www.gotquestions.org/Gods-will.html The practice of free will has more to do with salvation. We are given the free will to choose between life or death. As for pre-selection, here is an interesting read: https://www.gotquestions.org/elect-of-God.html

TRANSPARENCY Trudeau promises more transparent government and changes to the Senate https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trudeau-promises-more-transparent-government-and-changes-to-the-senate/article25924259/ He lied. https://globalnews.ca/news/4111226/tasha-kheirriddin-liberal-hypocrisy-on-transparency/ https://nationalpost.com/opinion/stephen-ledrew-trudeau-promised-canadians-transparency-but-hes-given-them-a-brick-wall http://www.pierrepaul-hus.ca/en/trudeau-ne-veut-pas-etre-transparent-avec-les-canadiens/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadas-access-to-information-system-has-worsened-under-trudeau-government-report/article36407309/ The latest epic fail: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-needs-to-take-off-the-gag

I don't think she'll cross the floor, but she might sit as an independent. i think that'll happen just before she finally talks. She must be waiting for the proper timing to sit out as an independent, and to talk - timing it to the coming election. She has an ax to grind with Trudeau.....she'll hurt him as best she can, especially during his campaign! She'd given a sample of this when she abruptly resigned from cabinet after Trudeau's statement to the press that she's still in cabinet. She threw that statement right smack to his face. This scandal will be alive during the election campaigns! She'll make sure of that. Yeheeeey for Jody! Expose the liars!

Corruption is tied to the Liberals like an umbilical cord.

Kindly read again. Slowly. Maybe it'll take a few reads....and eventually you'll understand what I was saying. Don't give up.